Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved?

[umaOuma]

It is the fortune of a child where he is born?? I mean if he is born in rich family he is definitely be loved by his parents and other family members for sure. But will it be the same situation if he borns in a poor family?? As they themselves are struggling for living they don't even educate their children so that they start earning money.

[Beliathon]

I got a vasectomy and my girlfriend got pregnant 4 months later. She aborted that fetus like the unwanted parasite it was, and I got another vasectomy. Fuck "god's will", these are our lives! Not his, and certainly not yours, reader.

What is love then?

Love is a chemical reaction happening in your brain, like every other emotion. I know, I know, googling is hard work, so I did it for you.

http://www.ted.com/talks/helen_fisher_studies_the_brain_in_love?language=en

http://www.dnalc.org/view/2384-Dopamine-Oxytocin-Rewards-and-Bonding.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vXX33C6Mg

"Fire runs through my body with the pain of loving you. Pain runs through my body with the fires of my love for you. Pain like a boil about to burst with my love for you, consumed by fire with my love for you. I remember what you said to me. I am thinking of your love for me. I am torn by your love for me. Pain and more pain -- where are you going with my love? I am told you will go from here. I am told you will leave me here. My body is numb with grief. Remember what I said, my love. Goodbye, my love, goodbye"
-Anonymous Kwakiutl Indian, southern Alaska, told to a missionary, 1896.

[ibminer]

I got a vasectomy and my girlfriend got pregnant 4 months later. She aborted that fetus like the unwanted parasite it was, and I got another vasectomy. Fuck "god's will", these are our lives! Not his, and certainly not yours, reader.

What is love then?

Love is a chemical reaction happening in your brain, like every other emotion. I know, I know, googling is hard work, so I did it for you.

http://www.ted.com/talks/helen_fisher_studies_the_brain_in_love?language=en

http://www.dnalc.org/view/2384-Dopamine-Oxytocin-Rewards-and-Bonding.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vXX33C6Mg

"Fire runs through my body with the pain of loving you. Pain runs through my body with the fires of my love for you. Pain like a boil about to burst with my love for you, consumed by fire with my love for you. I remember what you said to me. I am thinking of your love for me. I am torn by your love for me. Pain and more pain -- where are you going with my love? I am told you will go from here. I am told you will leave me here. My body is numb with grief. Remember what I said, my love. Goodbye, my love, goodbye"
-Anonymous Kwakiutl Indian, southern Alaska, told to a missionary, 1896.

Not sure about the rest of the readers but I am pretty damn happy your not reproducing 

[nerFohanzo]

Borned and loved is the best thing in the world. Generally people don't like to give birth to the girls and they just abort it or kill her after giving a birth and that sounds very terrible horrible and illogical. Today women are also as successful as men and more talented .

[Beliathon]

Not sure about the rest of the readers but I am pretty damn happy your not reproducing  

That's only because you're too stupid to realize that ideas don't need sperm and eggs to multiply. Oops, I've just spoiled that for you, haven't I? Sorry about that.

Capitalism is an idea whose time has come to die. Nothing you can do or say - no amount of praying, breeding, indoctrinating, imprisoning, lying, murdering, or even pleading with the oppressed - can change that now.

Warm regards,

An anarchist in the information age.

Generally people don't like to give birth to the girls and they just abort it or kill her after giving a birth

Thanks, religion! Remember folks, god is male, so men are "closer to god". 

[Beliathon]

Today women are also as successful as men and more talented .

This is true of Aryan women. It is also true, of course, that Aryan women are more successful and talented than the men of lower races. Ich take it as assumed that this is what you meant. I thought I would klarify in case others misread es.

You're going down, Adolf. You mass-murdering failed artist piece of shit!

[ibminer]

Not sure about the rest of the readers but I am pretty damn happy your not reproducing  

That's only because you're too stupid to realize that ideas don't need sperm and eggs to multiply. Oops, I've just spoiled that for you, haven't I? Sorry about that.

Capitalism is an idea whose time has come to die. Nothing you can do or say - no amount of praying, breeding, indoctrinating, imprisoning, lying, murdering, or even pleading with the oppressed - can change that now.

Warm regards,

An anarchist in the information age.

It is much easier to get rid of or suppress your dumb ideas when you don't have offspring that have been trained to think like a moron.

Capitalism has nothing to do with the conversation.

[Beliathon]

This is awesome. Suck it, quasi-fascist christian conservatives.

Capitalism has nothing to do with the conversation.

Capitalism has something to do with every conversation, especially one discussing an expensive medical procedure.

[Beliathon]

Capitalism has nothing to do with the conversation.

Capitalism has something to do with every conversation, especially one discussing an expensive medical procedure.

Beliathon is correct. The people do not exist for the economy, and the economy does not exist for capital. It is the people that must be served.

The social welfare system is so much more than just charity. We cannot just say to rich people: Please, give something to the poor. We must say to the people: help yourself! Everyone must help! Rich or poor! Everyone must the Glauben haven that there's someone in a much worse situation than I am, and this person I want to help as a comrade.

Thanks for your support, Hitler. Give my love to Satan if you see him around.

[zeraTunerse]

I believe loving is the best thing in this world. And once the child is born he will definitely loved by his parents I don't understand why some women goes for abortion knowing that she is going to give a birth to a girl??
This is narrowmindness and above i believe its a crime.

[cryptocoiner]

Re: Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved?

7 Reasons Why Abortion Should Be Illegal ... :

http://allwomenstalk.com/7-reasons-why-abortion-should-be-illegal

[Lauda]

Re: Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved?
7 Reasons Why Abortion Should Be Illegal ... :

http://allwomenstalk.com/7-reasons-why-abortion-should-be-illegal

Just read that link name 'allwomenstalk'. I'm expecting something irrational and unreasonable.
Most of the points are low class journalism. Ending a life on such level can't even be compared to killing ants (complicated if we take a look at structure). It is life on a cellular level and yes the "child" doesn't have a choice because it doesn't even know that it exists. Please tell me how it is better for a child to grow up with abusing parents which includes alcohol, drugs abuse and psychical abuse than not be born at all. Such traumas stay permanent most of the time.

I honestly believe that it is better not have a child if you're not going to provide the proper care that it needs.

[wearepoor]

Can't even think of Abortion, How can be people so cruel?? I mean are they human beings or an animal??
Even Animals are lovable and they do love their child too but the nature of human beings really difficult to understand. Give a birth to child and love him.

[cryptocoiner]

Re: Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved?
7 Reasons Why Abortion Should Be Illegal ... :

http://allwomenstalk.com/7-reasons-why-abortion-should-be-illegal

Just read that link name 'allwomenstalk'. I'm expecting something irrational and unreasonable.
Most of the points are low class journalism. Ending a life on such level can't even be compared to killing ants (complicated if we take a look at structure). It is life on a cellular level and yes the "child" doesn't have a choice because it doesn't even know that it exists. Please tell me how it is better for a child to grow up with abusing parents which includes alcohol, drugs abuse and psychical abuse than not be born at all. Such traumas stay permanent most of the time.

I honestly believe that it is better not have a child if you're not going to provide the proper care that it needs.

Do you have a family and children yourself? I betting that you dont. Couse if you would have them you wouldn't be talking this way. Abortion is illegal. Any religion also assuming abortion is illegal. Its a murder. Any childhave a right to live. And goverment should work to give a good life and care for every child.

[Lauda]

Do you have a family and children yourself? I betting that you dont. Couse if you would have them you wouldn't be talking this way. Abortion is illegal. Any religion also assuming abortion is illegal. Its a murder. Any childhave a right to live. And goverment should work to give a good life and care for every child.

Of course I have a family, doesn't everyone (almost)? I don't have children and have no plans on getting any.
This is where morality and rationality confront each other. It's quite irrational to put even additional stress on each country because of this, assuming the government does what you just proposed. We already have other conditions and events that will start draining our countries within the next decades unless solutions are found (e.g. Alzheimer Disease).

[Beliathon]

Re: Q: Is it better for a child to be born or to be loved?

7 Reasons Why Abortion Should Be Illegal ... :

http://allwomenstalk.com/7-reasons-why-abortion-should-be-illegal

"You are ending a life".

You cannot end something that has not yet begun. A fetus is not a life, not yet. In strict medical terms a fetus is a parasite, and the pregnant female is the host.

"The child doesn't have a choice."

It's not a child, it's a fetus, utterly incapable of making any choice. Sentience (self-awareness) is a pre-requisite for decision making.

"ADOPTION IS ANOTHER OPTION"

Adoption requires the medical risks and financial implications of going through a full-term pregnancy. This is not truly an option for most people, for example pregnant teens straddling the poverty line.

"MANY WOMEN ARE ENDANGERED BY ABORTIONS"

Poorer women do seek out the cheapest abortions, and some of them become ill or die as a result. If this offends you, lobby to all abortions funded by taxes.

"DOCTORS ARE SUPPOSED TO SAVE LIVES"

That is not a valid argument, it is a cheap appeal to emotion.

"TIMES HAVE CHANGED >> Leaving your child on someone’s doorstep or committing murder are both considered a major penalty, so why not abortion?"

Yes, times have changed. Roe v. Wade was over 40 fucking years ago now, abortion is legal and it will always remain legal. Get over it, conservatards.

"THERE WOULD BE LESS MENTAL ANGUISH CAUSED"

Yeah, I'm sure there was WAY less mental anguish back when abortion was illegal and pregnant women were killing themselves with coathangers and staircases to abort unwanted pregnancies.  

[Sarthak]

Firstly A child must be born! No use of loving until he's born
After he's born then he must get some love


Edit: Some people may take the first line seriously! Please don't! It was just meant to be for fun!

[Beliathon]

Naturally the termination of a healthy Aryan fetus was unacceptable

How very fascist of you.

The pendulum swung far to the right, and this once-fascist nation became the most hideously violent in the history of the world. Now the pendulum swings hard in the opposite direction, where do you suppose it will lead?
Did you know that in Germany today, the de linke ("the left") party, which controls 13% of parliament seats has a motto, "Germany can do better than capitalism". These few are radical people who believe decent food, shelter, healthcare, and education should be provided to all human beings as a birthright.

Ever since WW2 Germany has been slowly drifting to the left, and now Germans are legitimizing the radical views of anticapitalists by putting them into positions of governance. In the long run, the great irony may prove to be that Germany's relatively recent brush with fascism is the reason that nation will be leading the pack for the 21st century's revolution focused around compassionate ethics. Adolf, you are the reason Germany became an early Mecca of Compassion at the beginning of the End of Capitalism. Perhaps this is your atonement...

[ibminer]

"You are ending a life".

You cannot end something that has not yet begun. A fetus is not a life, not yet. In strict medical terms a fetus is a parasite, and the pregnant female is the host.

"The child doesn't have a choice."

It's not a child, it's a fetus, utterly incapable of making any choice. Sentience (self-awareness) is a pre-requisite for decision making.

Does a baby not choose to move around inside of a mothers stomach when it hears certain music?  Or kick when it hears a certain voice? 

[toddtervy]

It is the fortune of a child where he is born?? I mean if he is born in rich family he is definitely be loved by his parents and other family members for sure. But will it be the same situation if he borns in a poor family?? As they themselves are struggling for living they don't even educate their children so that they start earning money.

In the materialistic/Capitalistic U.S. children exist as part of their parents retirement plan.  They love money more than their kids.  You can see it in their 'no regard for the future; sell out, pollute, and poison the country if it increases profit a bit' attitude.