I recommend everyone stop buying (Re-sold) Avalon/BFL units.
The Avalon Team just released a good portion of the designs for their units and now OEM (Open Equipment) manufactuers are taking that and turning it into clones. Some might have better features.
Keep your BTC and buy the clones as they are likely to be much cheaper.
Word to the wise!
Not to jump in here and be a dick, but this man is trying to sell an item and you come up on his thread and start talking about other options. If you don't want it move along. You have no business on someone else's thread making these comments.
You are saying there is something wrong about pointing out when another user may be overpaying for a product because of lack of knowledge? Eh, ok..
Yes that is exactly what I am saying. I read the post, didn't want the item for my own reasons and moved on. I think it is very disrespectful to come on someone's thread and offer alternative options. If someone is willing to come on this forum and spend $15,000+ on a product that they haven't researched, and looked into then sobeit.
You have the heart of a scammer.
I will do my part and protect those who didn't know about this news. You will lose out because of it, so be it.
Now if you want to drop a comment stating your feeling on the item being offered, "overpriced" "not worth it" etc. fine. But that would be like me going on someone else's Casascius Coin thread and saying "hey I sell them cheaper" or "wait Mike will be offering them again soon".
If it is in the best interest of the community or those buying, then yes, it will be done.
If you want to go scam someone for your own reasons...keep looking out for people like us...who keep others aware and safe (from bad buys).
Links provided:
List of Avalon-ASIC-Miner-Developershttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192860.0[RELEASE] Avalon Referencehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200668.0Thank you for providing these links so we can all see where you're coming from. I first want to reiterate that all of these options are still in development and, as of yet, no units exist. They all also require the buyer to supply chips. My Avalon will have 80 chips per module for a total of 320 chips. The best price I have found is
BTC.086 per chip, or
BTC27.52 for 320.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187660.0 The units will still likely be delivered months after my unit. Again the bulk chips were sold after batch 3 and should be delivered in the same order. Then the products still have to finish development and be assembled before they reach the hands of the buyer and/or begin hashing. All of the following figures assume that the assembler makes 0 mistakes and damages none of your chips.
Now I want to break down the prices to make it easier for prospective buyers. I'll start with the first link. The DIY options require the buyer to provide PCBs and solder the chips themselves. These options are not comparable to my listing and I don't think many of my potential buyers would be interested in them. As for the assembled units, the most cost effective options are 20 chips for 100 Euros (5 per) and 10 chips for
BTC2.54 (.254 per). The cost of 320 of your chips assembled through these alternatives is 1600 Euros and
BTC81.28, respectively. Adding the initial cost of
BTC27.54 for the chips brings you to
1600 Euro + BTC27.54 or
BTC108.82 for an equivalent unit likely delivered months after mine.
The second link is for a customer to send chips to someone who will assemble and then host them for an undisclosed fee. Assembly costs
BTC2.54 for 10 chips (the discounted rate has expired),
BTC81.28 for 320. Add this to the
BTC27.54 price of the chips and you get
BTC108.82.
In conclusion, my full asking price of
BTC150 is roughly 40% more than buying your own chips and having them assembled and/or hosted for you. My minimum accepted offer of
BTC121 is about 10% more. My unit will likely start mining months earlier and my price is negotiable. The only factors for speculation are:
a)how much earlier
b)will the difficulty rise more or less than the price difference during that time and
c)if the difficulty rises less during that period, is the difference worth waiting an unknown amount of time for an unproven mining investment to see a return.
I hope this simplifies profitability speculation for potential buyers. This being said, I am setting an expiration for this listing. I have a serious offer from a user who was kind enough to give me some time. I will accept this offer if I don't receive a better one by
5/15. Thank you all for your interest.
Edit: This listing will be open until midnight 5/17.
