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Author Topic: BFL was a SCAM from the beginning -EXT HDD case being sold as a miner in 2011.  (Read 4397 times)
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August 21, 2013, 10:31:56 PM
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I am telling you your picture has nothing to do with the unit that shipped. For all I know it could have been a place holder pic used by the web developer.

This one has to be a placeholder too, right? They couldn't have lied that much.  Grin




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August 21, 2013, 10:34:25 PM
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the entire thread is BS based on something that never shipped, there would have been nothing wrong with using a hard drive style case except it looks boring

 With respect, after all was said and done, we learned that the original form-factor of a USB hard drive was nowhere near the final delivery form-factor, nor would it be possible to dissipate the heat generated in such a chassis.

 Extrapolate this with the original 1.5TH/s Minirig being broken up into three separate components, and we begin to get a clearer picture of what is in store for customers.
That new monarch of theres probally wont even fit in a standard mobo by the time BFL is finished with it.

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August 22, 2013, 08:00:21 AM
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CrashX, you are trolling. You, or someone, made the fake screenshot. There was never a picture of an ext hdd case on BFL's website.

NOT FAKE: http://web.archive.org/web/20110819122117/http://butterflylabs.com/products/

Also, from the FAQ page from the same date: http://web.archive.org/web/20110820030402/http://butterflylabs.com/faq/

Ok, I stand corrected, thank you for giving out the source.

But then, the date of this archive.org snapshot, August 19, 2011, elucidates everything... At that time BFL had not introduced themselves to the community, they had of course not even started taking orders, and the community was at large completely unaware of BFL. There is only a single bitcointalk.org post referencing BFL, that pre-dates August 19. It was made 4 days earlier on August 15 in the russian subforum by some guy who apparently stumbled upon the site: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35259.msg456853#msg456853 His post was probably the first link to butterflylabs.com ever, and is probably what allowed the archive.org crawler to discover and archive the page.

Obviously this was a beta version of their website that they were not ready to advertise around. I see no malice in having a non-final "concept" case for the single... Much ado for nothing.

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August 22, 2013, 09:24:50 AM
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Ok, I stand corrected, thank you for giving out the source.

But then, the date of this archive.org snapshot, August 19, 2011, elucidates everything... At that time BFL had not introduced themselves to the community, they had of course not even started taking orders, and the community was at large completely unaware of BFL. There is only a single bitcointalk.org post referencing BFL, that pre-dates August 19. It was made 4 days earlier on August 15 in the russian subforum by some guy who apparently stumbled upon the site: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35259.msg456853#msg456853 His post was probably the first link to butterflylabs.com ever, and is probably what allowed the archive.org crawler to discover and archive the page.

Obviously this was a beta version of their website that they were not ready to advertise around. I see no malice in having a non-final "concept" case for the single... Much ado for nothing.

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They began accepting pre-orders on September 2011, 1 month after lunching the site.

This isn't the only Bitcoin forum there are many of them, I bet they began promoting the so call product line the second they lunched the website.


I'm a programmer, and I could tell you that no legit site will ever begin accepting orders on a Beta/Demo site. Done over 10k since '95.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20110923170442/http://butterflylabs.com/pre-order-form/



At the beginning of the rush, a-lot of people got fool and some are still being fool.

Look at XCrowd, they look legit, are cheaper then BFL's but I bet people aren't buying Pre-Orders as they did with many companies like BFL at the beginning.

XCrowd has a way better payment option than BLF ever did/have, shit even now... BFL wont accept PayPal as a Payment method. Bitcoin's or Wire Transfer ONLY...

Go buy an Item on Craigslist, eBay and ect. If the seller tells you to, send them a Money Order or a Wire Transfer will you DO IT?

But I'm hoping that those new companies coming out are legit, I have my on two of them.
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August 22, 2013, 10:41:05 AM
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Ok, I stand corrected, thank you for giving out the source.

But then, the date of this archive.org snapshot, August 19, 2011, elucidates everything... At that time BFL had not introduced themselves to the community, they had of course not even started taking orders, and the community was at large completely unaware of BFL. There is only a single bitcointalk.org post referencing BFL, that pre-dates August 19. It was made 4 days earlier on August 15 in the russian subforum by some guy who apparently stumbled upon the site: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35259.msg456853#msg456853 His post was probably the first link to butterflylabs.com ever, and is probably what allowed the archive.org crawler to discover and archive the page.

Obviously this was a beta version of their website that they were not ready to advertise around. I see no malice in having a non-final "concept" case for the single... Much ado for nothing.

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They began accepting pre-orders on September 2011, 1 month after lunching the site.

And by September 2011, the hdd case concept image was already removed/replaced with a photo of the real PCB prototype. (I remember that because this was the time I first heard about BFL and saw their PCB.)

So what is your point? That a beta website, not announced to the public, not taking pre-orders, prior to September, was showing a concept image of the Single?? This whole thread makes no sense.

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August 24, 2013, 03:32:33 AM
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August 30, 2013, 02:25:30 PM
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I earliest pre-order for an FPGA I had on my wait list was in November, so I'm not sure if the September pre-order claim is true. Pretty much everything on that screen-capture of the site is off (cost, availability date, hashes, etc.).  Obviously it's all a test site.  As for it being a scam from the beginning, well they did ship all of their FPGA pre-orders.  No they didn't meet their 4-6 week shipping promise until near the end of their order queue and introduction of the ASIC line.  As it is right now, they're just really shitty at production planning and even worse at PR.

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August 30, 2013, 02:32:46 PM
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For someone who has,

"Don't take life too seriously. Just relax."

In their profile, you seem to be taking this a little serious.

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September 02, 2013, 07:40:30 AM
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IMO consolidate BFL threads to mine.

It has the most views and I'm fantastic at attention-whoring (they call it 'marketing' in schools) so just keep adding to that and I'll promise to try and get it in Ars Technica / NPR / TheVerge / Forbes all publications I've been quoted in this year

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136392.0

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September 11, 2013, 10:05:13 PM
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For someone who has,

"Don't take life too seriously. Just relax."

In their profile, you seem to be taking this a little serious.



I don't mine about BFL, but I do like to point things out, knowledge is power. or something Wink
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September 11, 2013, 10:06:08 PM
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IMO consolidate BFL threads to mine.

It has the most views and I'm fantastic at attention-whoring (they call it 'marketing' in schools) so just keep adding to that and I'll promise to try and get it in Ars Technica / NPR / TheVerge / Forbes all publications I've been quoted in this year

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136392.0

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