BITCOINTALK FORUM ADMINS SHOULD HELP BOUNTY HUNTERS.

[aioc]

i want to be specific here about the post i made. i am NOT TALKING ABOUT SCAM PROJECTS, rather bounty payments especially for quality and successful projects. the current norms now is that BM reduces payments at the end campaign.  How do we tackle this here.

I don't think it's the fault of bounty manager I just received my rewards from Adab and they cut it short by 80%, it's not the fault of the bounty manager, I'm not siding with them it's the fault of the administrators, because the administrators are the one that distributed payout after the bounty manager calculated and submitted the stakes.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

More suggestion is need please. Enough is Enough.

My suggestion is not to rely on these shady bounties as your source of income--a lot of them have proven to do exactly what you described, which is to change the rules and payouts as the bounty goes on.  It certainly isn't fair, and you've got my sympathy if you got screwed by any of these ICO projects, but you have to realize that most of them are scams anyway.  If they have no qualms about scamming their investors, why do you think they'd be straight with the people who help promote their projects?

Theymos basically just allows these bounties to exist on bitcointalk, but he and the mods have never had anything to do with enforcing their honesty--and it's not likely they ever will.  Just like you have to be responsible for your own private keys if you own bitcoin, you have to be responsible for which bounties you take part in.  Unfortunately there's a lot that's out of your control, and there's really no good way of knowing which ones are going to scam you in the end.

i want to be specific here about the post i made. i am NOT TALKING ABOUT SCAM PROJECTS, rather bounty payments especially for quality and successful projects. the current norms now is that BM reduces payments at the end campaign.  How do we tackle this here.

Yeah, but they're kind of one and the same.  The bounty managers either are in on the scam or have no control over what the project decides to pay out.

[Chomsy]

The inhumanity meted on hunters is just becoming excess. That part of changing rule when it comes to payment is the worst, treating hunters like they are beggars. I totally join with you to solicit for a board where hunters can air their views and get such projects their deserved judgement.

[erikalui]

i want to be specific here about the post i made. i am NOT TALKING ABOUT SCAM PROJECTS, rather bounty payments especially for quality and successful projects. the current norms now is that BM reduces payments at the end campaign.  How do we tackle this here.

Earlier as well for successful projects, neither admins nor bounty participants could do anything. Some projects delayed the payments by 6-8 months while projects like Auctus started distributing after 6 months and gave us a deadline of only 2 weeks to claim via some instructions. I missed reading the announcement and lost $10k but couldn't do anything. They not only changed the rules but delayed the payment also. BM just did not respond and help any participant.

Reducing payments also lies in the hand of the projects and BM and some make it clear that it depends on the amount they collect. Tagging such BMs is the only way out. Since there is no legal agreement, they can do whatever they want. It's like either accept it or leave it. I have received 1/4th of the amount promised by many campaigns but couldn't get any help as it depends totally on the team.

[Denongels]

things that are difficult to ask because the initial purpose of this forum was to make the focus actually not towards bounty, but rather to share information about things that exist in bitcoin other and crypto, bounty in my opinion is not the focus here and why are you just protesting now? because first in my opinion, there are also those who do the same difference the condition was still bullish and the altcoin price is still good so it doesn't really affect the reward while for now there is no bullish

[desticy]

Only you yourself are responsible for participating in a project that did not keep its promises and deceived with payments. As well as for participation in scam projects, no one forces you to participate in such projects, and if you are too lazy to analyze the project deeply looking for pitfalls, the forum administration is not obliged to rake it for you.

[rosezionjohn]

MY OPINION: it will be wise if this forum creates a board for feedback from bounty hunters regarding their experience with bounties especially with payments and defaulters should Be dealt with. possibly blocking their ANA Page or something else.

I guess bounty hunters should just stop talking, complaining, and asking for help from moderators and take advantage of the option available to them. The forum has already created a flag system where anyone can create a flag against someone who has violated a contract. See this thread I posted two weeks ago for example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5165178.msg51824246#msg51824246

[Musekay]

My point exactly. And this has been on the rise recently. Like seriously thats so unfair. They just do it with no just reason

[joybella]

I think the management should step in to reduce the treatment given to hunters after doing promotion. This will happen when payments of bounty hunters are kept with the admins who pays after the campaign if not projects can still decide to reduce or not pay at the end.

[Aqcizromencez]

many are more valuable than bounties in this forum, and participating in the bounty campaign is our choice so that all risks are borne alone,if you feel disadvantaged, you can report the gift manager in this forum, part of the allegations of fraud.

[sana54210]

There is little to which the admin can do about these situations honestly, even if they come up with those suggestions, it still would not stop some of these projects from treating the hunters the way they are treating them because admin would not be able to penalize them or draft any policy that will guard against that.

The saddest thing is that you would not even know about their intention because they never state it until the end of the campaign, so how then do you introduce policy into what they never declare has their intention at the beginning of the campaign, so that it can give hunters the opportunity to choose if they will participate or not. The only thing I think may be feasible is if they make the payment of token on a daily basis, then we don’t have to wait till end of campaign before being given the token.

[thesmallgod]

It seems you don't understand  how stubborn some bounty hunters are. Since you are a junior member I assumed you won't know how much the moderators here are trying to make things better. If not, things will be far worse than this. If any substantial help will come, the moderators will need more of cooperation from hunters that I believe it will be hard to have a decorum. I categorically have been telling project Dev team that not all hunters are hungry and beggars because that is what most of them think we are.

[desticy]

In my opinion, the forum administration and its participants are doing everything possible to rid the crypto community of forums from scam and scammers. But this is a crypto forum, it is more decentralized and is not regulated by any authorities, which means that it depends most of all on users.

[kickdapa]

I don't think Bitcointalk Admin will take a step to support the bounty hunters. Because who knows when the project reduces their allocations. After success, most of the projects don't care about their bounty supporter! Therefore many high ranking members don't like bounty things. Just post a thread about the bounty in the meta section, you will realize well!

[kindbtc]

That will be awesome and bounty hunters will also feel better and secure, i think this suggestion is very workable and practical the forum administration can nominate one senior admin or a team of senior members who can manage bounty hunter feedback and in case of scam, dishonesty, deceiving or not paying the jury can ban both the bounty manager and projects threads atleast from this forum.

[DoraNile]

It is with a heavy heart that i write this post and seek for Help from the moderators and admin of this mighty platform. the Rock of all things Crypto. you guys should assist hunters please. laborers deserved their pay and what so ever they do with their rewards HAS NOTHING TO do with owners of the Project.

MOST Bounty campaigns and projects here (New ones) has opt for the option to change RULES at the end of campaign. MANY has ALWAYS REDUCE bounty payments at the end of any successful campaign.  we can't talk about the delay and extension  of payments.

MY OPINION: it will be wise if this forum creates a board for feedback from bounty hunters regarding their experience with bounties especially with payments and defaulters should Be dealt with. possibly blocking their ANA Page or something else.

More suggestion is need please. Enough is Enough.

sorry pal i dont think its a wise choice for this forum to have anything to do with bounty projects,this is how the reputation of this forum can live longer,if any bounty projects failed in the end bounty hunters will put the blame on this forum, its duty of bounty hunters to do better research  on projects before they participate in any bounties,as a bounty huntef its your call to make