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[suzanne5223]

Good news for all Bitcoin forum members related to Joya Casino. KYC verification will not be necessary for crypto currencies. We discussed about this matter and came to conclusion that we want to make the life easier if you decide to be part of Joya's family.

That's rare to happen for a licensed casino not asking KYC especially for cryptocurrency payments, is this both deposit and withdrawal right? How long this will last though?

But you will still asking KYC to other kind payments, with same requirements mentioned by you earlier? IMO KYC should be still required at least only for ID not the utility bills.

You have a point but if you notice you'll see that ever since this casino created its ANN on this forum they have been adjusting and changing its website UI/UX just to provide the best service for the crypto gambler of this forum which I believe is one of the things that show the seriousness of casino.
Nevertheless, they can't operate outside the master license holder rules and regulations but they can only bend the possible rules.

[ultrloa]

Good news for all Bitcoin forum members related to Joya Casino. KYC verification will not be necessary for crypto currencies. We discussed about this matter and came to conclusion that we want to make the life easier if you decide to be part of Joya's family.

That's rare to happen for a licensed casino not asking KYC especially for cryptocurrency payments, is this both deposit and withdrawal right? How long this will last though?

But you will still asking KYC to other kind payments, with same requirements mentioned by you earlier? IMO KYC should be still required at least only for ID not the utility bills.

You have a point but if you notice you'll see that ever since this casino created its ANN on this forum they have been adjusting and changing its website UI/UX just to provide the best service for the crypto gambler of this forum which I believe is one of the things that show the seriousness of casino.
Nevertheless, they can't operate outside the master license holder rules and regulations but they can only bend the possible rules.

They need to do that so they can attract their user since so far they don't have any marketing running in this forum so maybe the least they can do for now is to present a site with good UI/UX since by this maybe they can attract those people who look for a casino that can attract them base on their first impression when they visit it. But I doubt they can attract a lot of user without running any marketing stints so they should think about launching some so they could able to compete with other casino which do a lot of marketing strategy just to attract bettor to come or stay on their casino.

For now its early so maybe players can't expect something big, but if Joya casino really want to gain something especially to make their user base grow then they should think about planning a good marketing to run here.

Maybe for now they can risk to do those no KYC rule since they are new but I also expect KYC will be mandatory if their earn success since for sure they will be call out by authorities for that reason.

[suzanne5223]

Good news for all Bitcoin forum members related to Joya Casino. KYC verification will not be necessary for crypto currencies. We discussed about this matter and came to conclusion that we want to make the life easier if you decide to be part of Joya's family.

That's rare to happen for a licensed casino not asking KYC especially for cryptocurrency payments, is this both deposit and withdrawal right? How long this will last though?

But you will still asking KYC to other kind payments, with same requirements mentioned by you earlier? IMO KYC should be still required at least only for ID not the utility bills.

You have a point but if you notice you'll see that ever since this casino created its ANN on this forum they have been adjusting and changing its website UI/UX just to provide the best service for the crypto gambler of this forum which I believe is one of the things that show the seriousness of casino.
Nevertheless, they can't operate outside the master license holder rules and regulations but they can only bend the possible rules.

They need to do that so they can attract their user since so far they don't have any marketing running in this forum so maybe the least they can do for now is to present a site with good UI/UX since by this maybe they can attract those people who look for a casino that can attract them base on their first impression when they visit it. But I doubt they can attract a lot of user without running any marketing stints so they should think about launching some so they could able to compete with other casino which do a lot of marketing strategy just to attract bettor to come or stay on their casino.

Yes, they are already working on the look and the user experience of the casino.
About not attracting a lot of users without marketing, you're right, and the casino team and I are working closely to make it happen but some things need to be finished for the betterment of this forum's gamblers before the marketing keeps off that's what the casino team is doing now.

For now its early so maybe players can't expect something big, but if Joya casino really want to gain something especially to make their user base grow then they should think about planning a good marketing to run here.

Maybe for now they can risk to do those no KYC rule since they are new but I also expect KYC will be mandatory if their earn success since for sure they will be call out by authorities for that reason.

I believe their representative read what you said about good marketing which is something I already told them but the no KYC I believe we should know that gone are the days of licensed casinos not requesting for KYC especially now that spot ETF are filed.
Despite that, the casino team is working on something that will make it easy for the forum user and soon a link will be created specifically for the forum users who want to get benefits from the casino in the area of reward and KYC.

[bitcasinorank]

That looks good, what's your role on this platform are you part of the team or you're representing them here in Bitcointalk, good to know that they already have a Curacao License https://verification.curacao-egaming.com/validateview.aspx?domain=joya.casino.
Checking some of the reviews online there are some negative reviews but the team is addressing these issues
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/joya.casino

Here are some reviews coming from review sites so far they are doing good
https://thegamepoint.io/casino/joya-review/
https://bitcasinorank.com/casino/joya/

Do the team have a plan to launch a signature campaign here to be more competitive and to get more attention coming from active gamblers

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Today, I made a full review and tested Joya Casino with a real deposit.

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[lightbet]

Hi when the casino will comeback please? There was over 7000 games with good live dealer now just one game (RTG) i don't want this provider its not good at all please we need the casino comeback again with the old games

Hello lightbet,

We are now only promoting our new provider SpinLogic (RTG), and very soon we will come back with one of the best provider with 9000 new games, so you will be able to enjoy this variety. Thank you for your trust and patience.

Joya.Casino is waiting for you!

Let's rock together!

Best of luck

When soon please? We are waiting more then 20 days.  Iam never ever see website casino deleted all games for just some games because one provider you just in the way for destroying your casino. as me iam out

[Potato Chips]

When soon please? We are waiting more then 20 days.  Iam never ever see website casino deleted all games for just some games because one provider you just in the way for destroying your casino. as me iam out

True. Bit of an odd decision to disable all game providers that likely have some regulars as well in order to highlight a newly added one.

I mean, there could be other ways to promote RTG without disabling any games from other providers like adding a featured section on the dashboard + starting a promo for it.

[Bitinity]

When soon please? We are waiting more then 20 days.  Iam never ever see website casino deleted all games for just some games because one provider you just in the way for destroying your casino. as me iam out

True. Bit of an odd decision to disable all game providers that likely have some regulars as well in order to highlight a newly added one.

I mean, there could be other ways to promote RTG without disabling any games from other providers like adding a featured section on the dashboard + starting a promo for it.

Was there a partnership issue with all the removed game providers? This is the first time I see a casino removed that much providers and focusing on 1 provider only. I do not even know this SpinLogic provider, is it a popular provider in a specific country? I think the casino is now still communicating with all the providers, as long as I know there must be a partnership deal between the casino and the provider before a casino can provide the games from the providers. Lets see if they can add all the removed providers back in the near future.

[Danydee]

Hello dear members,

Good news for all Bitcoin forum members related to Joya Casino. KYC verification will not be necessary for crypto currencies. We discussed about this matter and came to conclusion that we want to make the life easier if you decide to be part of Joya's family.

We are waiting for you!

Joya Casino Representative

Yes, still crypto transactions are through Binance it actually can be skipped.. but no one did tell me about thus untill I read this message!  

And about the registration free spins, do we stay eligible for without verification?

[Potato Chips]

Was there a partnership issue with all the removed game providers?

Ohhh that could be possible but if there really is, it has to be something big, no? since almost all providers are gone... or perhaps, they're cost cutting and tryin to test the waters with one provider. From what I heard, aside from sharing % in revenue, casinos also typically do monthly payments to gaming providers (cmiiw).

Yes, still crypto transactions are through Binance it actually can be skipped..

Do you mean kyc can be skipped if transactions were coming from binance? if so, that wouldn't be possible since binance is a completely different platform.

[Danydee]

Yes, still crypto transactions are through Binance it actually can be skipped..

Do you mean kyc can be skipped if transactions were coming from binance? if so, that wouldn't be possible since binance is a completely different platform.

KYC is mandatory to use Binance,  so theoretically there is no real need for a double verification as all activities will belong to a single entity which is theowner of the Binance account. And there is no real fear about money stolen that could be laundered though the casino as depositing to the casino requires the same verification steps/level on Binance than a regular crypto withdrawal!!

[Potato Chips]

KYC is mandatory to use Binance,  so theoretically there is no real need for a double verification as all activities will belong to a single entity which is theowner of the Binance account. And there is no real fear about money stolen that could be laundered though the casino as depositing to the casino requires the same verification steps/level on Binance than a regular crypto withdrawal!!

Both are completely different platform owned by different people and therefore does not share the same database.

How will casinos determine which withdrawal from binance belongs to which account when they don't share the same database? They would need to see the actual KYC information too to make a risk profile and as their way to verify some stuff like: make sure they're not from a prohibited country, different person from account A to B among other things.

Let's also not forget that binance is a liquidity provider for some no-mandatory kyc instant exchanges like fixedfloat. I used them before and some of the coins they sent me came from a binance hot wallet.

[Danydee]

KYC is mandatory to use Binance,  so theoretically there is no real need for a double verification as all activities will belong to a single entity which is theowner of the Binance account. And there is no real fear about money stolen that could be laundered though the casino as depositing to the casino requires the same verification steps/level on Binance than a regular crypto withdrawal!!

Both are completely different platform owned by different people and therefore does not share the same database.

How will casinos determine which withdrawal from binance belongs to which account when they don't share the same database? They would need to see the actual KYC information too to make a risk profile and as their way to verify some stuff like: make sure they're not from a prohibited country, different person from account A to B among other things.

Let's also not forget that binance is a liquidity provider for some no-mandatory kyc instant exchanges like fixedfloat. I used them before and some of the coins they sent me came from a binance hot wallet.

 First Joya do not offer direct crypto depositing methods, they use third-party providers like Binance with the future (Pay with Binance).. and to use the Pay-with-Binance future you must pass through same level of authentication check than for making a crypto-withdrawal !  Now if you were a scammer in control of a Binance account, what would you do: Withdraw the funds as Monero or Dash or transfer them through Fixedfloat to get clean coins OR instead deposit them on a casino where you know that you have to wager them at least two times before you can withdraw !??

So assuming the user is verified on Binance is sufficient, so in case of a problem the casino can just transmit the TXs IDs to the authorities to know the user ID and for further investigations !

Am I clear enough?

[Potato Chips]

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It doesn't make a difference, both are different companies. Merchants are also not entitled of access to KYC information of whoever user paid through binance -- in fact, this would be dangerous if ever made possible.

Plus it's not all about money laundering and the likes, my dude. Whether we agree on their methods or nah, most gambling platforms and game providers also uses KYC to comb through people trying to abuse their platform e.g. making a living out of casino bonusses.

Imagine involving authorities and going through all the legal hoops in order to confirm if someone's multi-accounting which btw will still be subjected for review. An average player would wait for weeks.

What you're saying is also an indirect collection of data. Although it is also something that services could do, typical identity verification is requesting information from the user. I'd also add that platforms could want a fresh identity verification hence the reason why in some cases, some services ask their user to reverify.