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July 22, 2024, 07:24:15 AM
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Key to solutions are always available, but sadly things like these usually works after having worst currently same happening in Ukraine we can go ahead with table talk and things ca sorted out without any problem but as mentions personal ego and allow common peoples to have relief because we all checking what is happening but just voice versa going around and all are playing number games even now Trump is also saying after re-electing as president he will use his power to sorted out this all but until then we have more causalities and more troubling life for millions.

Currently, we are having many areas which can settled with the table talk but no one is interested because they are having own priorities and just going ahead with them because without having their own priorities no one will bring solid solution for this all business is going ahead with sanctions are also staying, but all is working well.

These are all general phrases that have no practical usefulness. If you are in favor of Ukraine now sitting down at the negotiating table with Russia, then it should be recalled that in 2014 a ceasefire agreement was already concluded after Russia seized the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine, as well as parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. This truce was never respected by Russia, because its goal was to capture all of Ukraine. Therefore, since 2014, there have been constant battles on the demarcation line, and in 2022, Russia directly attacked Ukraine from three sides, also using the territory of Belarus for this.

Now Putin’s Russia demands that Ukraine give Russia, in addition to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, also Zaporozhye and Kherson. If you are for negotiations, then suggest what Ukraine should do in this case. Just also keep in mind that Russian troops are now harshly dealing with the population in the occupied territories for considering themselves Ukrainians and destroying everything Ukrainian, including books and textbooks. If you leave these territories to Russia, real terror of the civilian population will continue there.
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September 19, 2024, 06:12:30 AM
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"Let's find a solution" is something I do agree that should be very important to handle, it's basically what we should all be doing. I understand that it is not going to be easy, but it could definitely be something that will take a while. All in all, people should realize that if the war was meant to be over, leaders could have gotten together and finish it by now, if they both wanted it to be over, it would have been over. What we are seeing right now is that both sides are putting their pride before anything else, and that's why they are having this situation.

A solution could be found, like some grey area, not Ukraine and not Russia area, independent, or put it up for voting there, give a truce for a while, fix things, and then do elections there to decide. It is not important what's the end result, if they wanted it to end, it would have been over now.

In order for the war between Ukraine and Russia to end, Putin's Russia must first of all want it to. Putin can end this war any day by withdrawing his troops from Ukrainian territory. The end of the war on the part of Ukraine will lead to its complete capture and mass extermination of Ukrainians and the destruction of Ukraine as a state. A truce is impossible here, since Putin perceives the desire for negotiations as a manifestation of weakness, and then, on the contrary, he becomes impudent in his demands.

In addition, Russia will use any truce to prepare for new military aggression, since Russia's military potential has already been significantly destroyed on the battlefield in Ukraine. Putin is now bluffing in many ways in his threats. In order for the war to end as quickly as possible, it is necessary to eliminate Russia's ability to commit military aggression against other states.

It is possible to create buffer gray zones, but at the expense of the aggressor's territory. If someone does not agree, they can offer the territory of their country for this purpose.

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September 20, 2024, 03:29:09 PM
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In order for the war between Ukraine and Russia to end, Putin's Russia must first of all want it to. Putin can end this war any day by withdrawing his troops from Ukrainian territory. The end of the war on the part of Ukraine will lead to its complete capture and mass extermination of Ukrainians and the destruction of Ukraine as a state. A truce is impossible here, since Putin perceives the desire for negotiations as a manifestation of weakness, and then, on the contrary, he becomes impudent in his demands.

In addition, Russia will use any truce to prepare for new military aggression, since Russia's military potential has already been significantly destroyed on the battlefield in Ukraine. Putin is now bluffing in many ways in his threats. In order for the war to end as quickly as possible, it is necessary to eliminate Russia's ability to commit military aggression against other states.

It is possible to create buffer gray zones, but at the expense of the aggressor's territory. If someone does not agree, they can offer the territory of their country for this purpose.
That would mean Putin would accept to defeat and when you are a dictator the only thing you have is the illusion that you have power. If you lose that power then what stops people from making you take a step back one more time and than one more time and then again and again.

This is why he is willing to keep his position and illusion of power as long as he has to, and Russia is still falling in line with him, sending soldiers, nobody knows what to do, I am sure they do not want this war neither but elections are famously rigged, hell if someone looks like they may win, Putin just kills them, so it's clear that we are seeing this changing long term and I believe that we are going to see Putin keep attacking and as long as Russians do not stop him, which would be near impossible, they will end up dying in thousands as long as this war goes on. Neither side could stop at this point and I think we are going to see both side be in a constant war state for many many years.

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September 21, 2024, 06:21:12 AM
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In order for the war between Ukraine and Russia to end, Putin's Russia must first of all want it to. Putin can end this war any day by withdrawing his troops from Ukrainian territory. The end of the war on the part of Ukraine will lead to its complete capture and mass extermination of Ukrainians and the destruction of Ukraine as a state. A truce is impossible here, since Putin perceives the desire for negotiations as a manifestation of weakness, and then, on the contrary, he becomes impudent in his demands.

In addition, Russia will use any truce to prepare for new military aggression, since Russia's military potential has already been significantly destroyed on the battlefield in Ukraine. Putin is now bluffing in many ways in his threats. In order for the war to end as quickly as possible, it is necessary to eliminate Russia's ability to commit military aggression against other states.

It is possible to create buffer gray zones, but at the expense of the aggressor's territory. If someone does not agree, they can offer the territory of their country for this purpose.
That would mean Putin would accept to defeat and when you are a dictator the only thing you have is the illusion that you have power. If you lose that power then what stops people from making you take a step back one more time and than one more time and then again and again.

This is why he is willing to keep his position and illusion of power as long as he has to, and Russia is still falling in line with him, sending soldiers, nobody knows what to do, I am sure they do not want this war neither but elections are famously rigged, hell if someone looks like they may win, Putin just kills them, so it's clear that we are seeing this changing long term and I believe that we are going to see Putin keep attacking and as long as Russians do not stop him, which would be near impossible, they will end up dying in thousands as long as this war goes on. Neither side could stop at this point and I think we are going to see both side be in a constant war state for many many years.

Despite the Kremlin's daily propaganda among the Russian population about the necessity and justice of attacking Ukraine, as well as maintaining the myth of Russia's invincibility, more and more Russians are becoming convinced that their SVO in the third year of the war is clearly not going according to the intended scenario and the war they have unleashed is increasingly moving to the territory of Russia itself, especially after the Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied about 1,300 square kilometers of Russian territory in the Kursk region on August 6. But it is one thing to watch Russian troops victoriously advancing across a foreign country from the couch on TV, and another when they increasingly began to see the consequences of the war from the windows of their apartments or houses.

Until now, the recruitment of Russians into the army took place on the basis of large payments to servicemen, including one-time payments, which have already reached 2 million rubles. But human resources are not endless in Russia either. If all these years about 70 percent of Russians supported Putin and his SVO in Ukraine, now their belligerence is sharply declining.

Only a little more than a third of Russians are ready to continue fighting, almost half of Russian citizens want an urgent peace. Almost half of Russian citizens, 49%, support the conclusion of peace with Ukraine and the withdrawal of Russian troops without achieving the goals of the so-called "SVO", as the war against Ukraine is shamefully called in the Russian Federation.

This is evidenced by the results of a survey by the Chronicle project and the Extreme Scan research group from September 10 to 17. It is noted that 49% is the highest figure since the beginning of the war, while only 33% of Russians are ready to fight to the bitter end, which is the lowest figure since February 2022.

In addition, 63% of Russians support the conclusion of peace between Ukraine and the Russian Federation on the basis of mutual concessions, if this happens within the next year. 49% chose peace instead of mobilization, only 29% supported a new wave of mobilization and the actual continuation of the war.

It is interesting that the number of those who are not afraid to openly speak about their unwillingness to sign a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense and go to war has grown significantly - there are 30% of them. On the other hand, the number of Russians ready to go to war has fallen to 32%.

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September 24, 2024, 01:48:42 PM
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That would mean Putin would accept to defeat and when you are a dictator the only thing you have is the illusion that you have power. If you lose that power then what stops people from making you take a step back one more time and than one more time and then again and again.

This is why he is willing to keep his position and illusion of power as long as he has to, and Russia is still falling in line with him, sending soldiers, nobody knows what to do, I am sure they do not want this war neither but elections are famously rigged, hell if someone looks like they may win, Putin just kills them, so it's clear that we are seeing this changing long term and I believe that we are going to see Putin keep attacking and as long as Russians do not stop him, which would be near impossible, they will end up dying in thousands as long as this war goes on. Neither side could stop at this point and I think we are going to see both side be in a constant war state for many many years.
In this war of personal interests and hypocrisy things are taking changes even many are believed Russia is losing on due to mass loses of its weapons and other things but still they are standing why it's important because they are getting their money from selling oil and natural gas through few points which are open and no one have power to stop them with we all know things are going worst for Ukraine as well, but truce is not acceptable for anyone here at this point.

In coming weeks most chances we will be stayed on this same level because it's favourable for few countries with this situation they are taking profit as well Russia is always destroyed by themselves because they have never been going to stop things which are vulnerable for them.

Here best point is just these countries try to sit and have some solution about few areas and things which can make things easier for all stakeholders otherwise this war is going to long as they can with EU is having own interest so they will be keep stand behind Ukraine but still can't do anything positive for them as well.

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September 26, 2024, 01:47:39 PM
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Russia is a country rich in all kinds of natural resources. Most of the world's countries depend on Russia's crude oil, coal, uranium, and other natural resources. If Russia stopped exporting coal, the lights wouldn't go on in many countries because many countries' power plants would shut down. Russia and the UK have good diplomatic relations and the United Kingdom is heavily dependent on Russia in many ways. When the Russia and Ukraine wars were organized we saw many countries facing problems for war.
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September 27, 2024, 04:41:35 AM
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Sanctions have worked to an extent, but I don't believe sanctions can make Russia stop the war. This looks like a war in that the ego plays a very big role. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor NATO would want to agree that they've been defeated.
Without the sanctions, Russia would have been able to do more harm to its enemies through economic means and otherwise. At this point, they're just looking for ways to survive whatever sanction that gets thrown at them and they've been managing well so far.

You have a raised valid concerns regarding limitations of economic sanctions in achieving desired outcomes. Economic sanctions may initially produce some results , but later targeted countries devise strategies to mitigate their impact on their economies overtime, and same thing is happening in Russia Ukraine conflict now.

The Russia Ukraine ongoing conflict has led to heavy human causalities, collateral damage and economic difficulties all over the world. We should raise our voices to exert pressure on political leaders to find effective ways to bring this devastating conflict to an end.

There is no conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Russia made a military invasion of Ukraine in order to seize its territory and destroy the independence of this state. This is the most ordinary aggressive and large -scale war, in which hundreds of thousands of people from both sides die. Therefore, it is necessary not to exert pressure on the "political leaders", but specifically to Putin and his environment, so that he would withdraw his occupation troops from Ukraine. And for this it is necessary to use all funds - from sanctions, diplomatic efforts to destroy the invading Russian soldiers by providing all kinds of assistance to Ukraine to reflect Russian aggression.

Sanctions cannot work effectively in a short time, but they slowly and confidently give their destructive effect for the Russian economy. Russia has vast territories and in this regard, large available reserves. But when they run out, it will be very difficult to raise the economy. Most likely, through internal conflicts as the consequences of this war, Russia will fall into many independent states. This will be a clear lesson for those authoritarian states that are now observing the progress of this war.

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