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March 03, 2015, 05:20:46 PM
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Note the date on the post.....

Irrelevant. Stop spamming everyone's threads trying to protect your free hardware payments.

Ok.. so here's the skinny so far.

Small claims that i brought Alexandru to court with.. was set aside. Note, not dismissed.

We were both told that we need to seek legal advice on this and then we'd be notified on a new date for the hearing, to which i have two lawyers firms set up for this, both specialise in corporate litigation,  so I'm pretty good to go.

Now, the other side is Alexandru claimed that he resides in china most of the time, so this is going to present an issue with court hearings later, but the judge said that he can make use of video conferencing facility but he had to arrange it with the court.


I won't go into details about the case as he and his minions have access to this forum, however, this is far from over Smiley he just doesn't understand how much evidence i have against him so he can't assess how much defence he needs to prepare. he had a whole bunch of paper work just like i did, but i never got mine out, he pulled some of his and it is pretty bland stuff.

Well done Bitcz!!  Keep up the good fight  Wink

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lol he was banging this ck probbaly using peoples pre-order money for the hotel room what a punk

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March 04, 2015, 07:59:34 AM
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and here i was about to buy one about 5 minutes ago.  thank you for changing my mind!
Oh WOW definitely do more research before buying, Blackarrow is TERRIBLE Stick with Spondoolies or Bitmain.

Edit: My bad I am dumb, I didn't realize how old that comment was.

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April 01, 2015, 08:16:58 PM
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Very good Bitcz !
If I can help you (Money, Details of something). Send me a PM.

You already got an email from me with my OrderDetails!
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April 16, 2015, 04:36:07 AM
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file a report with the HK police, consumer council and your local police force. The time
for asking for a refund past months ago...
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April 16, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
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file a report with the HK police, consumer council and your local police force. The time
for asking for a refund past months ago...
Don't forget to file a complaint with the HK Inland Revenue Service too, to ensure they reported the value of the bitcoin (and all other) payments properly for tax purposes. The only people who seem to have shown any interest so far (when this was last mentioned the bitcoin holding suspiciously all 'moved'/'were hacked', but should still have been reported as assets): http://www.ird.gov.hk/eng/cu_cpts.htm
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October 29, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
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file a report with the HK police, consumer council and your local police force. The time
for asking for a refund past months ago...
Don't forget to file a complaint with the HK Inland Revenue Service too, to ensure they reported the value of the bitcoin (and all other) payments properly for tax purposes. The only people who seem to have shown any interest so far (when this was last mentioned the bitcoin holding suspiciously all 'moved'/'were hacked', but should still have been reported as assets): http://www.ird.gov.hk/eng/cu_cpts.htm

how likely is it to see even a % of the money back if you report it to any of these authorities?

is it worth the hassle?
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November 01, 2015, 01:49:45 PM
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file a report with the HK police, consumer council and your local police force. The time
for asking for a refund past months ago...
Don't forget to file a complaint with the HK Inland Revenue Service too, to ensure they reported the value of the bitcoin (and all other) payments properly for tax purposes. The only people who seem to have shown any interest so far (when this was last mentioned the bitcoin holding suspiciously all 'moved'/'were hacked', but should still have been reported as assets): http://www.ird.gov.hk/eng/cu_cpts.htm

how likely is it to see even a % of the money back if you report it to any of these authorities?

is it worth the hassle?

yes if enough people complain the total amount of money stolen becomes significant and then the HK police will take action.
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November 21, 2015, 06:52:57 AM
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You're kidding, right?

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January 08, 2016, 07:48:13 PM
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Anything new Bitcz?
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January 21, 2016, 09:09:48 AM
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Well I've received what looks to be the last and final communication from the HK Consumer Council. To summarize it basically says that Black Arrow has ignored all communication attempts and that the CC has no power to do anything.

Of all the actions I've taken over the years the only one that seemed promising was the response from the HK police however, they've gone silent and it seems no action has been taken.

As it currently stands Black Arrow has kept the money from my order (~$5k USD for s 2TH/s miner) including the S/H fee and hasn't shipped me anything all despite the agreement to ship my order at the end of February 2014.

Black Arrow is still in business, operating out of China and is currently trying to scam additional funds from their already victimized customers with the promise of cloud mining "compensation". This involves sending them a large sum of money with no guarantee of anything in return.

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November 06, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
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February 09, 2018, 04:17:39 PM
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/judge-shocked-fraud-case-now-11989706
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February 09, 2018, 10:49:01 PM
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Wow, that's a pleasant way to revive the thread Wink hopefully the next story will be jail time now he's been convicted of something at least, even if it was unrelated to BTC.
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February 12, 2018, 07:10:11 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5381775/Romanian-kingpin-jailed-11-years-ATM-skimming-scam.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5483721/Romanian-ATM-kingpin-goes-run-flying-private-plane.html#comments
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The two balls he's got hanging outside the shed is just fucking priceless.
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December 27, 2022, 07:49:44 PM
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UPDATE

https://justnews.ro/cautat-pentru-fraude-informatice-a-fost-extradat-in-sua-unde-risca-ani-grei-de-inchisoare/

He took over his brother's "business" and now faces 30 years in prison in the US
November 28, 2022

The Romanian Șovu Mircea-Dan will be extradited to the United States and soon handed over to the American judicial authorities, after the final decision taken last week by the Bucharest Court of Appeal. On the name of Şovu Mircea-Dan, since 08/02/2022, there is an arrest warrant issued by the Court for the Southern District of the State of New York. In Romania, Șovu Mircea-Dan was detained and then arrested on the basis of a provisional arrest warrant, for a duration of 30 days, issued starting on 14.09.2022.

The facts

The Romanian is accused of committing the crimes of access device fraud, conspiracy to commit access device fraud, mail fraud affecting a financial institution, wire fraud affecting a financial institution, bank fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud, grand larceny identity. In fact, as shown in the reasons for the arrest decision, recorded by rejust.ro, Șovu Mircea-Dan is suspected that, starting from 2016 and until March 2021, he was the main owner and operator of a site called Myc……… ...com, which sold electronic equipment used in illegal skimming activities. The forms of payment accepted by the site were bank transfers, cash payment or crypto-currency. The products sold by the site were used for the purpose of extracting information from the debit and credit cards used by the injured persons, with the help of magnetic strip readers. The information was later transferred into a computer system and then recoded and used in counterfeit debit and credit cards and later used for unauthorized withdrawals. United States undercover agents made several purchases of skimming equipment from Șovu Mircea-Dan and recorded numerous conversations with him regarding the use of the equipment for illegal skimming activities. The agents paid for and subsequently received skimming equipment from the Romanian 4 times. The Romanian bragged to investigators, in recorded phone conversations and emails, that he was able to decrypt debit and credit card numbers obtained from skimming devices assembled with skimming equipment by sending them to undercover agents the keys decryption and software to extract debit and credit account numbers. Using the decryption key provided by the Romanian, US authorities were able to obtain over 300 debit/credit card numbers belonging to various individuals. that he is able to decrypt debit and credit card numbers obtained from skimming devices assembled with skimming equipment by sending undercover agents decryption keys and software to extract debit and credit account numbers . Using the decryption key provided by the Romanian, US authorities were able to obtain over 300 debit/credit card numbers belonging to various individuals. that he is able to decrypt debit and credit card numbers obtained from skimming devices assembled with skimming equipment by sending undercover agents decryption keys and software to extract debit and credit account numbers . Using the decryption key provided by the Romanian, US authorities were able to obtain over 300 debit/credit card numbers belonging to various individuals.

He faces 30 years in prison

7 charges were filed against Șovu Mircea-Dan:

fraud with access devices (maximum penalty 15 years in prison);
conspiracy to commit access device fraud (maximum penalty 7 years and 6 months imprisonment);
mail fraud affecting a financial institution (maximum penalty 30 years imprisonment);
wire fraud affecting a financial institution (maximum penalty 30 years imprisonment);
bank fraud (maximum penalty 30 years in prison);
conspiracy to commit mail, wire, and bank fraud (maximum penalty 30 years in prison);
qualified identity theft.
He took over his brother's "business".

Șovu Mircea-Dan has a brother, Alexandru, who was convicted in absentia by the British authorities for the same kind of acts. As Libertatea reports here, Șovu Alexandru was sentenced to 11 years in prison for a bank fraud of 3 million euros, but he is nowhere to be found, being suspected of hiding in China or Romania. The Romanian managed to sell several ATM fraud devices to criminals in the USA, Jamaica, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, Ghana and the Philippines. The 'skimmer' type devices (a skimmer = an illegal device designed to fit into an ATM's card insert to read bank account information), once placed in ATMs, would record information about victims' accounts in order to copying the computer data contained in the cards inserted in them.

Old problems with the law

The Şovu brothers had big problems with the law. In January 2003 , they were arrested after they were discovered to have placed several orders on the Internet, to online stores abroad (in particular, the United States, Australia and Canada) to purchase goods, using fraudulent numbers of credit cards that did not belong to them, without the knowledge or authorization of the true holders. Following the orders, approximately 100 parcels arrived in Romania in the name of their accomplices. Accused of committing the crimes of fraud, complicity in fraud, identity fraud and forgery, the two brothers disappeared, but were later captured in Budapest , more than a year after they were put under general and international prosecution.
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December 27, 2022, 10:30:16 PM
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