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October 02, 2014, 03:54:01 PM
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Hi,

This thread is being made to keep a track of actions and updated regarding BlackArrow and the information against them.


 Sad I've posted on their main website, called them out and they responded with the usual tactics of delays and lies
 Shocked I posted information about my legal stance and what i was doing to take them to court... they deleted my posts
 Huh I have a nice long chat in PM with them... they ended up deleting my account
 Grin I posted some good intel on the other BA thread here.. and BA deleted that as well... so im creating this thread that they cannot control or manipulate.




So currently i have legal actions going in two different countries against BA LTD in china with some lawyers in Hong Kong who are currently looking of the information i've sent them and  in the UK, Alex Sovu and Bbyte ltd are now under fire legally... they will find out in a few days and they i hope to get to meet Alex in court.... failing that, make sure he never ever has directorship of a company in the UK at all ever again.

I started out like yourselves, a customer, eager to buy into their product, i sent my money, followed their rules.. but eventually got fed up of the lies and lack of communication and the stalling and more lack of communication. So i asked for my money back... they refused. Claiming the T&C's were binding.... unfortunately they aren't and Chinese law trumps any company T&C if found unwarranted and unfair in case where it's proven that the company withheld monies rightfully due to be refunded to customers under Chinese law.

The Aim, to get a refund
The Cost, what ever it takes
The Result, a refund or i loose my order
The End Game, if i loose my money, to personally make sure Alex Sovu never works or earns a penny in the UK ever again Smiley

So to this end i collected over 50 other customer details, and sent them over to the lawyers in Hong Kong.. am still waiting on how that's going to turn out, but there's definite grounds to have stock impounded until it's sorted out. In the UK i have engaged lawyers to seek and gain from Alex a court appearance as a test case for my own personal case with him and Bbyte. If proven i aim to clear him out and petition companies house and the courts to ban him from ever taking a director role in a UK company.

Resellers

Unfortunately you guys are caught in the crossfire, you probably signed up and paid out a hefty costing reseller contract.. sorry... can't help you out there.. you might well be called to give evidence in the courts.
Anyone else thinking about going to BA for the 14nm technology and to try and become a reseller, let this sorry state of affairs be a warning to you, Black Arrow Software are the worst company to work with and are not to be trusted... in fact, anyone with any dealings with Anyone remotely connected to Black arrow or former employees should be treated with suspicion when potential business dealings are being discussed... it could be another Romanian scam front again.

Please post your comments and thoughts to this thread, please also treat this thread as the new black Arrow information exchange where freedom of expression is a universal right, not a manufacturers whim.

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October 02, 2014, 05:14:40 PM
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and here i was about to buy one about 5 minutes ago.  thank you for changing my mind!
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October 02, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
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Blackarrow could end up like BFL if they are not careful these days.
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October 02, 2014, 07:23:52 PM
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Hey Bitcz, I've sent you my info a while ago, in addition to filing a complaint with the HK CC and the HK Police Dpt. Next week I'll have another meeting with my lawyer here. Good to see things are moving on the legal front, I hope Pentax can chip in as well, BA simply has to be brought down asap. Let me know if I can help out in any way.

I hope you can keep us posted here about the lawsuit in HK and the UK, respectively via email (in case of confidential information).
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October 02, 2014, 07:51:43 PM
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I'm not sure you quite realise how much money you're going to end up burning to matyr yourself in the UK, to get nothing out of it. You would have to have absolutely proof of fraud to have him permanently stricken from UK directorships.

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October 03, 2014, 01:49:38 PM
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I think that being a director of a company is the ultimate buck stop in any organisation.

Besides, i think i can prove fraud with this little incident and also something else i dug up that would have him stricken from being able to hold directorship in the uk.

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October 04, 2014, 04:40:59 PM
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Little late, but my 2c:

I am not a lawyer, but if I were you, I would have all of my communication go through my lawyer with Black Arrow.  i.e. I would stop chatting with them via PMs.
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October 05, 2014, 12:57:40 AM
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Hey Bitcz, I've sent you my info a while ago, in addition to filing a complaint with the HK CC and the HK Police Dpt. Next week I'll have another meeting with my lawyer here. Good to see things are moving on the legal front, I hope Pentax can chip in as well, BA simply has to be brought down asap. Let me know if I can help out in any way.

I hope you can keep us posted here about the lawsuit in HK and the UK, respectively via email (in case of confidential information).
Blackarrow is a Shenzhen based company. There is nothing to do with HK Police.
Maybe you should contact with  some organizations in shenzhen.
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October 05, 2014, 06:19:52 PM
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Hey Bitcz, I've sent you my info a while ago, in addition to filing a complaint with the HK CC and the HK Police Dpt. Next week I'll have another meeting with my lawyer here. Good to see things are moving on the legal front, I hope Pentax can chip in as well, BA simply has to be brought down asap. Let me know if I can help out in any way.

I hope you can keep us posted here about the lawsuit in HK and the UK, respectively via email (in case of confidential information).
Blackarrow is a Shenzhen based company. There is nothing to do with HK Police.
Maybe you should contact with  some organizations in shenzhen.

BA is incorporated in HK, as such it's a HK company. Their ToS states the proper jurisdiction is in HK. Could't be any more clear where the jurisdiction lies in this case, it sure isn't Shenzhen.
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February 09, 2015, 10:32:32 AM
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well I've seen Alexandru.. or at least someone proporting to be him.

and i can say, the trade fair picture of him and the blonde girl... that aint him. Possibly this Daniel guy... maybe.
Alexandru is 6.3 / 6.4 slim, Mediterranean complexion, dark brown hair, maybe 115 KG or a bit lighter.. very slight build i would say a tall glass of thin to be honest.

court case been put back from 10am to 12pm... so im stooging around waiting our turn.

ill update you on what i find.

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February 09, 2015, 10:48:43 AM
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I'm not sure you quite realise how much money you're going to end up burning to matyr yourself in the UK, to get nothing out of it. You would have to have absolutely proof of fraud to have him permanently stricken from UK directorships.

Yet another pointless & derogatory spam post from the poop-dawg..... Roll Eyes

Anyone who decides to take it upon themselves to bring these crooks down should be applauded by the whole Bitcoin community, not criticised with arrogant "you don't understand" comments. Go back to spamming your own employers threads.

@ Biycz:  Best of luck to you & well done. Please keep us all informed of proceedings - the whole Bitcoin community is behind you, apart from the poop-dawg of course, cos he knows better...... Roll Eyes

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February 09, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
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I'm not sure you quite realise how much money you're going to end up burning to matyr yourself in the UK, to get nothing out of it. You would have to have absolutely proof of fraud to have him permanently stricken from UK directorships.

Yet another pointless & derogatory spam post from the poop-dawg..... Roll Eyes

Anyone who decides to take it upon themselves to bring these crooks down should be applauded by the whole Bitcoin community, not criticised with arrogant "you don't understand" comments. Go back to spamming your own employers threads.

@ Biycz:  Best of luck to you & well done. Please keep us all informed of proceedings - the whole Bitcoin community is behind you, apart from the poop-dawg of course, cos he knows better...... Roll Eyes

Note the date on the post Mr troll.... and good job entirely ignoring the content. I was explaining that the UK legal system is extortionately expensive to do anything in.

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February 10, 2015, 11:02:28 AM
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Ok.. so here's the skinny so far.

Small claims that i brought Alexandru to court with.. was set aside. Note, not dismissed.

We were both told that we need to seek legal advice on this and then we'd be notified on a new date for the hearing, to which i have two lawyers firms set up for this, both specialise in corporate litigation,  so I'm pretty good to go.

Now, the other side is Alexandru claimed that he resides in china most of the time, so this is going to present an issue with court hearings later, but the judge said that he can make use of video conferencing facility but he had to arrange it with the court.


I won't go into details about the case as he and his minions have access to this forum, however, this is far from over Smiley he just doesn't understand how much evidence i have against him so he can't assess how much defence he needs to prepare. he had a whole bunch of paper work just like i did, but i never got mine out, he pulled some of his and it is pretty bland stuff.


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February 10, 2015, 11:03:41 AM
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Also....

https://i.imgur.com/6AMHCdl.jpg

http://uk.linkedin.com/in/danielandronic

this is Daniel.... I've yet to identify the girl, but i think it might be IULIA CRISTINA IXARI

The quite possibly the man i saw yesterday is actually Alexandru
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February 10, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
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I really hope you can recover some of your money from these scumbags.
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February 10, 2015, 02:29:43 PM
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Also....

https://i.imgur.com/6AMHCdl.jpg

http://uk.linkedin.com/in/danielandronic

this is Daniel.... I've yet to identify the girl, but i think it might be IULIA CRISTINA IXARI

The quite possibly the man i saw yesterday is actually Alexandru

they have a special place in hell for scammers.

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February 10, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
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let me know if there is any update on this, since I also ordered a miner for $6000 back in december 2013
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February 10, 2015, 03:58:16 PM
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Note the date on the post.....

Irrelevant. Stop spamming everyone's threads trying to protect your free hardware payments.

Ok.. so here's the skinny so far.

Small claims that i brought Alexandru to court with.. was set aside. Note, not dismissed.

We were both told that we need to seek legal advice on this and then we'd be notified on a new date for the hearing, to which i have two lawyers firms set up for this, both specialise in corporate litigation,  so I'm pretty good to go.

Now, the other side is Alexandru claimed that he resides in china most of the time, so this is going to present an issue with court hearings later, but the judge said that he can make use of video conferencing facility but he had to arrange it with the court.


I won't go into details about the case as he and his minions have access to this forum, however, this is far from over Smiley he just doesn't understand how much evidence i have against him so he can't assess how much defence he needs to prepare. he had a whole bunch of paper work just like i did, but i never got mine out, he pulled some of his and it is pretty bland stuff.

Well done Bitcz!!  Keep up the good fight  Wink

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March 02, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
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@Bitcz@outlook.com

When is the next date planned, can you talk to your advisor/laywer if it is possible that I can also join the lawsuite?

I'm living in the Netherlands, and it is for me possible to fly over to UK. Let me know.
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March 03, 2015, 02:22:45 PM
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I have another court date set for April. This is to determine culpability of Alex Sovu and others in relation to the sales there of.

Gathering evidence and formulating the case with the lawyers, as soon as i have any further news i will post it.

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