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Men more realistic? No, I don't think so. It's often women who manage the family budget, but also the administrative documents (I'm thinking, for example, of registering children for school, a sports club, etc.). As soon as there are children, the notion of family changes (obviously) and budgetary responsibilities too. Women are realistic because when they are mothers, they want above all for their children to have enough to eat and good living conditions in general. They can give up past personal pleasures for their children (like buying clothes or other things). Perhaps women have more of a sense of sacrifice for their children.
In some countries, especially in Muslim-dominated areas, men play more roles than women. The men control the finances of the family because the wife's input is rarely considered. But I would have to agree that women are more concerned about the welfare of their children than their husbands. It is common to see men spending lavishly outside the home without considering their family. But women would sacrifice all she has to give their children comfort.
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May 17, 2025, 01:11:14 PM |
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That's what I meant. And although gambling is haram, as far as I know, men are more likely to gamble, while women will give up personal (and therefore non-essential) pleasures to support the family budget or plan a birthday present for their child.
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May 17, 2025, 01:42:20 PM |
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Because women tend to be afraid of loss and prefer more definite things like saving and buying jewelry as their investment, from most of what I see like that, it is different from men who risk themselves at great risks in their lives so men have a great leadership spirit and are more realistic than women in living life.
Men more realistic? No, I don't think so. It's often women who manage the family budget, but also the administrative documents (I'm thinking, for example, of registering children for school, a sports club, etc.). As soon as there are children, the notion of family changes (obviously) and budgetary responsibilities too. Women are realistic because when they are mothers, they want above all for their children to have enough to eat and good living conditions in general. They can give up past personal pleasures for their children (like buying clothes or other things). Perhaps women have more of a sense of sacrifice for their children. It just turned out that women are the ones who do end up on making up a budget since men are the main provider and even myself sometimes trying out to make that budget on which I could say that Im that much more strict when it comes to savings than on what my wife been doing but not really that much of the difference since everything do pertains on proper budgeting and wont be ending up on having that overdropped because of mismanagement of funds. Actually it doesnt matter on who will be the one that will be handling out the family budget but in overall on which the wife will be the ones on making up some budget and most of the time on which husbands are the ones who do the job to have some income then its just understandable that their wives are the ones will be having that management in the end and as long the earnings will be able to complete all the needs and a little bit mix of wants then everything would go smooth. Also, dont forget the most important thing of all on which in every time that you do have the salary then its always been best that you do allocate some budget for beautification of your wife on which this is the only way that you can be able to compensate all of the hardwork and other wife related responsibilities inside the house and other aspects. On this way then your wife wont be having any complaints but rather they would be happy and as we do have that common saying that if you do have a happy wife then you will definitely be having that happy life. Money management is crucial and should be that putting up on focus because earning money is never been easy and proper management will be that needed so that later on if ever there are some problems then you an be able to sustain since you both have life savings or amounts that are saved for emergencies and also this isnt just that talking on this aspect but generally that pertains about providing that everything on what our family do needs. There would be no problems if both having that harmony on making up proper plans just for the sake or good for the family.
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May 17, 2025, 10:48:33 PM |
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"In general..." It feels like there’s no one right answer here.
The same woman/girl can live her life in completely different ways depending on the situation. For example — I dated my ex for over six years. Back then, she only wanted to deal with the “household” part of the budget. She had zero interest in investments or anything related to financial safety nets. After we broke up, she suddenly got into budgeting, started learning about saving and growing money — and now she’s doing just fine on her own.
So how do you even answer a question like that? If the same person can treat money management so differently depending on the life context — even over a pretty short period of time?
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May 21, 2025, 08:34:38 PM |
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Basically, women also want to be independent with money earned from their own hard work, but because of their status as wives who take care of the house and children, their movements are not as free as men. There are many women who are public figures and hold central positions in private companies, but some of them choose to take a break from their activism just to take care of their husbands and children. Women are also the treasurers in the household, they are always involved with finances because they take care of all household expenses.
Basically, in terms of managing money, it all depends on the person. If he really knows how to manage money, he will definitely manage it. If he really wants to be big, prestigious, and wasteful, he won't be able to. And why do many people say that women are good at managing money because women take care of household needs starting from children, shopping and others. In my country, it's the same, if in a household a woman is the treasurer, she is the one who manages finances, both for expenses and savings. Referring to the governance of the country, as far as I remember in the last 20 years the Minister of Finance in my country has always been a woman until now. So women's involvement in finance is indeed equal to men. Basically, in terms of managing finances, it is not seen from gender but depends on the individual. If she understands financial literacy, she will definitely be better at managing finances.
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Women in my country before are only meant to organize the house or keep the house in other they where not meant to work especially office work however right now women in my country are now working, before women in my country where not allowed to go to school but now they now go to school, there's one thing that has not really changed that is women investing majority of them always believe if there husband has investment no need for them to have too and which is very bad some of our women actually invest but majority don't.
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May 22, 2025, 05:26:44 PM |
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Reading the forum, it's clear that sometimes the way women are viewed differs greatly from one country to another. What is the position of women in budget management in your country in general? Are women interested in saving and investing? Have you tried to orange pill her? If not, why not? Why, statistically, are women less involved in finance/trading/banking?
Nowadays the narrative has drastically changed in my country side compared to before, the market has been more competitive and more like a fight against gender inequality women are now into trading and banking, women now make money and manages their finances without guidance. Women now do things that men do, they work, take care of the house chores and do many others things. Times have passed when women sit at home and wait for their husbands to bring money because they are also human that has certain goals and dreams to achieve which may not have been met if only depending on the man's efforts of which can be called fulfillment.
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May 22, 2025, 05:58:13 PM |
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But I would have to agree that women are more concerned about the welfare of their children than their husbands. It is common to see men spending lavishly outside the home without considering their family. But women would sacrifice all she has to give their children comfort.
I wouldn't believe this statement to be 100% true. Yes, there are good women and ladies who will keep their husbands' money saved and do not spend extra, but then there are many women who do not care about saving and spend everything as they wish to enjoy life. Such women are never happy with their husbands even though they would give them everything to fulfill their wish. Very few women may understand the power of saving and help their family to save money and invest in bitcoin. If anyone is doing this, believe me, she is doing too well for her family but very few women have this type of vision.
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May 22, 2025, 06:31:47 PM |
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Reading the forum, it's clear that sometimes the way women are viewed differs greatly from one country to another. What is the position of women in budget management in your country in general? Are women interested in saving and investing? Have you tried to orange pill her? If not, why not? Why, statistically, are women less involved in finance/trading/banking?
Nowadays the narrative has drastically changed in my country side compared to before, the market has been more competitive and more like a fight against gender inequality women are now into trading and banking, women now make money and manages their finances without guidance. Women now do things that men do, they work, take care of the house chores and do many others things. Times have passed when women sit at home and wait for their husbands to bring money because they are also human that has certain goals and dreams to achieve which may not have been met if only depending on the man's efforts of which can be called fulfillment. This change bring many positive and negative things in society because now values are changing and women's are looking for more independence which are not good even for them. Maybe mostly peoples will be not agreed with my statement, but women's are surely needed to be had better life and having better sources of income but with this many countries are suffering into their narrative and values which are going down because mostly feeling this is disturbing balance into their system. I also favor because with share of women in money management things always stay in balance and family can increase their income which is always helpful for them because mostly women can management better and also have positive mind for keeping savings which always helps them in difficult times.
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May 22, 2025, 06:39:42 PM |
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Reading the forum, it's clear that sometimes the way women are viewed differs greatly from one country to another. What is the position of women in budget management in your country in general? Are women interested in saving and investing? Have you tried to orange pill her? If not, why not? Why, statistically, are women less involved in finance/trading/banking?
Nowadays the narrative has drastically changed in my country side compared to before, the market has been more competitive and more like a fight against gender inequality women are now into trading and banking, women now make money and manages their finances without guidance. Women now do things that men do, they work, take care of the house chores and do many others things. Times have passed when women sit at home and wait for their husbands to bring money because they are also human that has certain goals and dreams to achieve which may not have been met if only depending on the man's efforts of which can be called fulfillment. This change bring many positive and negative things in society because now values are changing and women's are looking for more independence which are not good even for them. Maybe mostly peoples will be not agreed with my statement, but women's are surely needed to be had better life and having better sources of income but with this many countries are suffering into their narrative and values which are going down because mostly feeling this is disturbing balance into their system. I also favor because with share of women in money management things always stay in balance and family can increase their income which is always helpful for them because mostly women can management better and also have positive mind for keeping savings which always helps them in difficult times. I cant say that it do have that changes because it has been happening long time that there would be those women who do think up that they are independent or does have that thinking that they dont totally want to rely with their husbands when it comes on earning money. Yes, this is good on the sense that both of you are earning income but the issue on here is that on the moment or time that you do become that having those insights that you dont need your husband anymore or simply that becomes confident on which it comes into a point that you've been that boasting up that you are earning money. Most of the time i have observed even on my own wife that on the time that they are earning money on which it seems that they do show up some behavior or acts that they dont rely with us husbands when it comes into finances. On the moment that there would be some arguementation then it will be that totally something a main thing that would be mentioned out, on which they are that earning and helping you blah blah when it comes to finances on which it do really sucks. Why i do say that? Because i have been able to experience for myself that wife been saying up such thing whenever we do have some quarrels when it comes to finances. Its something that she will be that always be repeating on what she had done for the family. Im not saying that all women are like this but usually they would be having this kind of mindset whenever they do have the work or have the capability on searching up for some income, they do become that too high on thinking into themselves that they are raising up the family on their own. lol
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batang_bitcoin
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May 22, 2025, 06:53:34 PM |
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Women in my country before are only meant to organize the house or keep the house in other they where not meant to work especially office work however right now women in my country are now working, before women in my country where not allowed to go to school but now they now go to school, there's one thing that has not really changed that is women investing majority of them always believe if there husband has investment no need for them to have too and which is very bad some of our women actually invest but majority don't.
That's what even in other countries and on the ancient times. Most of the women when were bound only to do house stuff. They're working for the family through household chores and are the ones that are serving men. But right now, there is women empowerment and we see that there are women leaders in different industries and that's why it is inspiring for the women on this period that they are also idolizing these great women because of what they have achieved. There is now equality for both men and women but in some cultures, the traditional setup for women is still followed.
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Tmoonz
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May 23, 2025, 05:11:41 PM |
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Reading the forum, it's clear that sometimes the way women are viewed differs greatly from one country to another. What is the position of women in budget management in your country in general? Are women interested in saving and investing? Have you tried to orange pill her? If not, why not? Why, statistically, are women less involved in finance/trading/banking?
Nowadays the narrative has drastically changed in my country side compared to before, the market has been more competitive and more like a fight against gender inequality women are now into trading and banking, women now make money and manages their finances without guidance. Women now do things that men do, they work, take care of the house chores and do many others things. Times have passed when women sit at home and wait for their husbands to bring money because they are also human that has certain goals and dreams to achieve which may not have been met if only depending on the man's efforts of which can be called fulfillment. This change bring many positive and negative things in society because now values are changing and women's are looking for more independence which are not good even for them. Maybe mostly peoples will be not agreed with my statement, but women's are surely needed to be had better life and having better sources of income but with this many countries are suffering into their narrative and values which are going down because mostly feeling this is disturbing balance into their system. I also favor because with share of women in money management things always stay in balance and family can increase their income which is always helpful for them because mostly women can management better and also have positive mind for keeping savings which always helps them in difficult times. I cant say that it do have that changes because it has been happening long time that there would be those women who do think up that they are independent or does have that thinking that they dont totally want to rely with their husbands when it comes on earning money. Yes, this is good on the sense that both of you are earning income but the issue on here is that on the moment or time that you do become that having those insights that you dont need your husband anymore or simply that becomes confident on which it comes into a point that you've been that boasting up that you are earning money. Most of the time i have observed even on my own wife that on the time that they are earning money on which it seems that they do show up some behavior or acts that they dont rely with us husbands when it comes into finances. On the moment that there would be some arguementation then it will be that totally something a main thing that would be mentioned out, on which they are that earning and helping you blah blah when it comes to finances on which it do really sucks. Why i do say that? Because i have been able to experience for myself that wife been saying up such thing whenever we do have some quarrels when it comes to finances. Its something that she will be that always be repeating on what she had done for the family. Im not saying that all women are like this but usually they would be having this kind of mindset whenever they do have the work or have the capability on searching up for some income, they do become that too high on thinking into themselves that they are raising up the family on their own. lol You are absolutely correct in a general point of view and observations, it takes another level of sense of maturity for a woman not to pick up boosting of their achievement during quarrelling with their husbands. Every man wants a peaceful and happy home and not a ground for competition. It is a very big pity for a man who can not confidentially make 90 percent provisions for the family while the wife make up with the remaining ten (10) percent because the case will be worst when a woman is contributing somewhere close to what the man is bringing, a virtuous woman builds her home while the foolish ones destroys it at any given opportunity or provocation. We are all imperfect humans and of course everyone deserves to be happy.
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May 23, 2025, 05:20:10 PM |
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Reading the forum, it's clear that sometimes the way women are viewed differs greatly from one country to another. What is the position of women in budget management in your country in general? Are women interested in saving and investing? Have you tried to orange pill her? If not, why not? Why, statistically, are women less involved in finance/trading/banking?
I have heard such opinion: women and men now equally successfully manage finances. Previously in marriage, men was the one who brings money home and women were keeping the house. Now we have less people get married and more divorces, or women even plan to live their life without men. All that because women now dont need men who will earn, as earn same money themselves. They need men only for physical work. What I think, is that edge between men and women managing money is really little today.
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May 23, 2025, 07:26:11 PM |
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Despite the number of pages, there were only 38 voters, which is a pity. We can see that today, according to this modest survey, couples decide together on budget management for the most part, which is obviously a good thing. However, even if it is a bit sexist and I am sorry about that, the man will be less inclined to give up his personal expenses than the woman if the budget is tight. In some societies, things are moving very slowly, but it is better than nothing.
I think it is time to close this discussion and thank you for your many responses.
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