MORE PROOF 12/6/17-12/7/17
antikonti / chernakotka11 /
chernakotka11@gmail.com / douchebag / impersonator
A fellow forum member stated:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2534885.msg25856087#msg25856087"I was going to take him up on his paypal offer, until he told me to send it as a family and friend gift. To everyone reading, you CANNOT dispute charges that are sent as gifts to friends and family on paypal. He has no issue with you using paypal to receive the money as a "gift", because paypal wont come after him when you try to dispute it because it was sent through the friends/family option."
Before we continue let's see what PayPal says about friends and family:
Thank you for contacting PayPal. Don't worry, we're always happy to help. I am sorry but personal friends and family payments cannot be disputed. This is because there is no official buyer or seller so there is no buyer or seller protection available. If you have already made one such payment, you can always ask for a refund or a cancellation from them. Depending on the situation, you can always contact your local authorities, your nation's cyber crime division, or try to work something out with your bank or card issue if you paid with one of those. -Jessica
The only way to try to dispute a friends and family charge is if your account was compromised and you didn't send the payment yourself.
Lets see what antikonti had to say about that:
Sadly everyone know there is 180 days which Everyone can dispute everything about paypal.
Sadly people using paypal without know their policy and trying to buy miners and bitcoins with it making it safe only for themselves but not the sellers.
Before you make youself look stupid, go at the exchange section and check how every single LEGIT buyer of paypal via bitcoins requests 180 days hold for payments for a reason.
Next time learn ur lesson before posting no sense.
And yes, we do accept paypal only as friends and family, we never hide that
I just admit that EVERY single payment even friends and family can be charged back but seems like u can't read.
For everyone reading this, paypal buyer protection is totally different thing than fraud protection.
If you are not familiar with paypal, do not use it! Same as Bitcoin Smiley
Next time when u put words on my mouth, learn to read. If u can't use translate/
I clearly stated that people paying btc after 180 days of hold PayPal funds, because even when u send them as friends and family, u can steal you money back for 180 days window.
Straight from all scammers waiting, you can sell your bitcoins and receive family and friends Cheesy:D:D
You just quoted why Buyer protection is not valid for friends and family, and for obvious reasons, there is payment for goods and services.
When you use goods and services you have buyer protection.
When you use friends and family you have fraud protection.
Explain me son, why if "friends and family" is so secure, why no one taking paypal at the currency exchange ? Cheesy Because we all know that ALL payments including "Friends and family" can be reversed back.
If you are not familiar don't talk.
Consider the sender of "friends and family" have fraud protection, in this case, where is the seller protection son ?
There is no seller protection because that's not payment for sale, but only fraud protection for the one who sends.
So now, learned how paypal work, do you feel stupid?
If you still need help with paypal and how people scam with it, you can go at the exchange currency section and open thread that you buying bitcoins with "Friends and family" I will have good laugh how you will explain everyone how safe that method is Cheesy:D:D
The evidence speaks for itself that
antikonti / chernakotka11 /
chernakotka11@gmail.com =
douchebag / impersonator / scammer.