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September 30, 2017, 02:58:32 AM
Last edit: November 24, 2017, 07:27:42 AM by seavey87
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antikonti has numerous for sale postings on the forum. you can find them here:

[WTS] Cleaning some of my mining army
Selling mining part #2
[WTS] Antminer D3
[WTS] My army of antminers

I replied via PM to his D3 for sale, he responded:





We then took the conversation to skype:









*This is where he starts to impersonate monbux. The funny thing is that before I even sent my email address to monbux via PM I already had a email waiting for me in my inbox from "monbux" aka antikonti. See below:



The rest is below: (I can provide more screenshots)

[9/29/17, 9:35:45 PM] luke: Alright cool
[9/29/17, 9:35:53 PM] Seavey: What is your name?
[9/29/17, 9:36:57 PM] luke: What he emailed you ?
[9/29/17, 9:37:05 PM] Seavey: Yes
[9/29/17, 9:37:16 PM] luke: This message has been removed.
[9/29/17, 9:37:56 PM] Seavey: Ok
[9/29/17, 9:38:01 PM] Seavey: I sent him a email back
[9/29/17, 9:40:13 PM] luke: Do you have btc in your wallet to send to him and i will send the miner monday cause it's first business day
[9/29/17, 9:40:21 PM] Seavey: Yes
[9/29/17, 9:46:37 PM] luke: Cool
[9/29/17, 9:48:37 PM] luke: Did monbux contact you after replying ?
[9/29/17, 9:48:44 PM] Seavey: No not yet
[9/29/17, 9:48:59 PM] luke: We will wait
[9/29/17, 9:49:04 PM] Seavey: Im really excited though, I need this miner bad
[9/29/17, 9:49:21 PM] Seavey: My mother in law is very ill and it will help pay for the medical bills
[9/29/17, 9:49:38 PM] luke: I need the cash aswell hope make this deal true
[9/29/17, 9:50:36 PM] luke: Hope monbux contact you soon
[9/29/17, 9:52:17 PM] Seavey: I hope so
[9/29/17, 9:52:37 PM] Seavey: I just got an email from him
[9/29/17, 9:52:43 PM] luke: Cool
[9/29/17, 9:52:52 PM] Seavey: do you trust him? this is not scam right?
[9/29/17, 9:53:15 PM] luke: I trust him, cause I've used him once and everything went smooth.
[9/29/17, 9:53:31 PM] luke: You can check his thread and feedback is awesome only positive comments



[9/29/17, 9:54:07 PM] Seavey: Ok because i really need this and if i lost this money it will be really bad for me
[9/29/17, 9:54:11 PM] Seavey: thank you, sending now
[9/29/17, 9:55:51 PM] luke: Thank you aswell I'm glad found buyer of my miner
[9/29/17, 9:58:44 PM] luke: Any news ?
[9/29/17, 9:58:58 PM] Seavey: I sent to BTC address
[9/29/17, 9:59:39 PM] luke: Did he told you to reply after sent the coins or not ?
[9/29/17, 10:01:03 PM] luke: How much exactly you sent him ?
[9/29/17, 10:01:37 PM] Seavey: I sent the full $3100 to the link you sent
[9/29/17, 10:02:38 PM] luke: Reply his email you sent the btc and tell when it's confirmed transaction
[9/29/17, 10:02:54 PM] Seavey: Ok, I sent to address in here
[9/29/17, 10:02:55 PM] Seavey: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0
[9/29/17, 10:02:59 PM] Seavey: emailing him now
[9/29/17, 10:03:43 PM] luke: that's his tipping adress for donate
[9/29/17, 10:04:16 PM] Seavey: yes i sent 1% to that and the $3100 to the one in email, right?
[9/29/17, 10:04:17 PM] luke: He didn't give your his btc wallet in email ?
[9/29/17, 10:04:33 PM] luke: ah alright
[9/29/17, 10:04:52 PM] luke: I thought you sent all funds in his tipping adress Cheesy
[9/29/17, 10:04:56 PM] luke: as donate
[9/29/17, 10:08:54 PM] Seavey: I know you’re a scammer
[9/29/17, 10:09:02 PM] Seavey: I am going to post a thread about you
[9/29/17, 10:09:16 PM] Seavey: fucking idiot
[9/29/17, 10:10:20 PM] Seavey: Blocked luke


Notes:

His skype is live:vazata7
The wallet he wanted me to send to: 1AqGEVdSvrh2A6nXNDrMnNiTAahcQCeFPy
The email address that was setup for "reply to": chernakotka11@gmail.com
Proof that antikonti =skype - live:vazata7 = chernakotka11 = chernakotka11@gmail.com = douchebag = impersonator

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September 30, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
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That user (with that email address) has been known to try to scam people by impersonating me via email.

I would expect people to care about their money enough to try to actually confirm with me, either via PM here and/or requesting a signature to prove my identity.
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September 30, 2017, 10:03:22 PM
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same as everyone i hate the scammers around.
but do you mind show us proof that antikonti impersonating somehow and proof that's his skype so we can connect the things and beware.

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October 01, 2017, 12:52:32 AM
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That user (with that email address) has been known to try to scam people by impersonating me via email.

I would expect people to care about their money enough to try to actually confirm with me, either via PM here and/or requesting a signature to prove my identity.

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monbox- I figured it was a scam with the low pricing and how he was so persistent. When he emailed me pretending to be you before I had even sent you a PM it was confirmed.
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November 21, 2017, 07:42:23 AM
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Avoiding escrow and locking threads are 2 of the biggest warning signs of a scam.

I would also say not providing pictures with username and date but they're managing to get them now Angry.
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November 21, 2017, 08:09:49 AM
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Like monbux said, lots of impersonators(or lots of attempts at impersonating him by the same person) recently of his escrow service. Almost all has been done through email. If you don't get a signed message to confirm his identity you should not trust him.

This is why you should always check fully before you send any BTC.

And i doubt the process is this simple, from establishing contact straight to asking for payment.
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November 21, 2017, 12:18:34 PM
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i don't see how chernakotka11 or this gmail is connected with me ?
funny how the guy requested monbux then talking about email escrowing consider its noted that it should be used only via PM, now he claim that im the one requesting anything over email.
consider he posted his email public, EVERYONE can send him pm claiming to be me, or monbox.
Not sure why and how he connect me with those guys who clearly trying to scam him which is not my fault.
The version is a variant of the hypothesis, and without valid proof, any hypothesis are just imaginary story based on no proofs.
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November 21, 2017, 12:36:14 PM
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Before i start, i would like to clear that i don't care about the OP and his activity's but im posting here because it seems the people who "fight" the scammers are more active in threads without proper proof as this one, so i will use the "scene" with hope some of you guys will take a look on the real scammers which are proof based.
Let me remind you of the proof based reports on the scamming group around ->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2383001
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2267931
I take a close look daily on the "Scam accusations" section and so far, i see activity from you guys who can do something against them only on threads which got no proofs for the actual "scam" but when there is one with valid proofs and arguments, you guys doing nothing.
Don't get me wrong, i do not support or protect the OP because i never did research against him, but i do research the activity of scammers and the people who can help us with the war against them.
You guys tagging randomly people in non-proof based threads but leaving the real scammers alone.
Please, take a look on those scamming group already and instead of fighting not proof based threads, do the same to the proof based ones.
OP, i will also do personal research against you, and believe me, if you trying to scam/impersonate or doing any blackhat activity here on the forum,me and the guys who hate people like you will be watched closely from us.
The gift cards you sold me in the past and went first to me, doesn't mean i won't take actions against you if there is valid proofs that you actually trying to scam someone here.

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November 21, 2017, 10:20:23 PM
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i don't see how chernakotka11 or this gmail is connected with me ?
funny how the guy requested monbux then talking about email escrowing consider its noted that it should be used only via PM, now he claim that im the one requesting anything over email.
consider he posted his email public, EVERYONE can send him pm claiming to be me, or monbox.
Not sure why and how he connect me with those guys who clearly trying to scam him which is not my fault.
The version is a variant of the hypothesis, and without valid proof, any hypothesis are just imaginary story based on no proofs.

Lets keep this simple.. is that your Skype?
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November 21, 2017, 10:24:47 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.
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November 21, 2017, 11:39:17 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.
seavey87, i hate scammers just like you.
But if you like post to be valid, evidences is what we need.
you can't just say someone is scammer just because some random newcomer point anyone.
if we going to expose the fucking scammers, at least we need proofs so everyone can see we are talking the truth not just random bla bla

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November 22, 2017, 02:34:09 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.
seavey87, i hate scammers just like you.
But if you like post to be valid, evidences is what we need.
you can't just say someone is scammer just because some random newcomer point anyone.
if we going to expose the fucking scammers, at least we need proofs so everyone can see we are talking the truth not just random bla bla

Did you read my original post..? Where he is posing as a forum escrow?
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November 22, 2017, 10:49:04 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

Look at the second post in this topic, he has done the same "escrow" scam to other members.
seavey87, i hate scammers just like you.
But if you like post to be valid, evidences is what we need.
you can't just say someone is scammer just because some random newcomer point anyone.
if we going to expose the fucking scammers, at least we need proofs so everyone can see we are talking the truth not just random bla bla

Did you read my original post..? Where he is posing as a forum escrow?
I see everything but i don't see connection between the user and the emails you noted.
I also don't see how if your email were public posted, how can anyone be connected with any impersonating consider everyone can be the impersonator.
If we like to expose the scammers to the community, valid proofs should be provided.
Otherwise we are just doing trash talk.

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November 24, 2017, 04:26:49 AM
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Avoiding escrow and locking threads are 2 of the biggest warning signs of a scam.

I would also say not providing pictures with username and date but they're managing to get them now Angry.

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November 24, 2017, 10:11:52 AM
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Avoiding escrow and locking threads are 2 of the biggest warning signs of a scam.

I would also say not providing pictures with username and date but they're managing to get them now Angry.

THIS!
I do lock my threads also because i expose scammers everyday, and they go after me.
With that option, i can at least erase their bullshits.
I don't see anything which violate the forum rules to use option which it provide us as "Moderated thread".
And from what i can see, all the guy thread saying "escrow is welcome" and are with valid proofs of ownership.
Not to mention most of the smart guys around using self moderated thread because 80% of the new accounts here are activity farmers and they don't want their threads to be spammed.
Guys, help us to expose and catch the scammers, stop trying to think people are stupid to give them non proof based threads.

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December 03, 2017, 04:31:43 AM
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i don't see how chernakotka11 or this gmail is connected with me ?
funny how the guy requested monbux then talking about email escrowing consider its noted that it should be used only via PM, now he claim that im the one requesting anything over email.
consider he posted his email public, EVERYONE can send him pm claiming to be me, or monbox.
Not sure why and how he connect me with those guys who clearly trying to scam him which is not my fault.
The version is a variant of the hypothesis, and without valid proof, any hypothesis are just imaginary story based on no proofs.

The gmail is connected to you because you told me to message you via skype live:vazata7



At the time your skype display name was luke (notice the skype picture), it is now baumqul:



YOU suggested monbux not me, therefor you are lying when you say "funny how the guy requested monbux"



Yes, I forgot to remove my email from one of the pictures I posted in this thread. Please do enlighten me how someone could impersonate monbux on September 29th 9:34PM EST when I posted this thread after that?



My proof that your douchebag self is connected to chernakotka11 / chernakotka11@gmail.com:



Further proof on how you can go stand in the corner and think about your actions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180409

On september 16th a different member made the same complaint about you:

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December 03, 2017, 06:12:43 PM
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Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.
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December 03, 2017, 06:37:42 PM
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Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.

Yeah.. just one thing idiot.

I received the email from you impersonating monbux DURING our conversation which was BEFORE I opened this thread.
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December 03, 2017, 09:16:44 PM
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Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.

Yeah.. just one thing idiot.

I received the email from you impersonating monbux DURING our conversation which was BEFORE I opened this thread.
How come you saying "received from you".
Why from me ?
Show us PROOFS.
Why from me but not anyone else ?
Explain and connect any proofs or evidences, we are waiting from month.
Stop trash talking and show some proofs that's my email or that I send this email.
Can't wait to see your imagine evidences, you making me laugh again.
You received the email from the imposter AFTER you post your email public.
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December 03, 2017, 09:26:15 PM
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Once again I don't see proof that this email is mine? How did you contact it with me? Where I'm saying that's my email or where is it noted as mine ?
Or just because you are stupid enough to post your email public and some random scammer send you email right after you posted your email public it should be mine ?
Post your valid proofs and evidences.
All I see is hypotheses and theorems not proof based.
Show how this email is somehow connected with me.
Once you posted your email public any scammer can spoof email and try to play anyone he wish lol.
Use ur brain next time.

Yeah.. just one thing idiot.

I received the email from you impersonating monbux DURING our conversation which was BEFORE I opened this thread.
How come you saying "received from you".
Why from me ?
Show us PROOFS.
Why from me but not anyone else ?
Explain and connect any proofs or evidences, we are waiting from month.
Stop trash talking and show some proofs that's my email or that I send this email.
Can't wait to see your imagine evidences, you making me laugh again.
You received the email from the imposter AFTER you post your email public.


Since you are struggling to address multiple points at once, I will ask one question at a time:

Is live:vazata7 your skype?
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