Wallet Compile Service

[CHAOSiTEC]

It's says I need the github link to the source that needs compiling but alas you did not really read the text or you do not really know what your attacking

And so what? People ask you to compile a wallet source for them into an executable. The concept of Gitian (which you were so eager to copy-paste here) assumes that wallets are built in a controlled environment, i.e. in a "deterministic" manner (read fully repeatable with the identical outputs). If you don't do that, that is, make your wallet Gitian-ready which "allows multiple builders to create identical binaries", then your reference to Gitian was only meant to confuse. Really, how others can double-check your binary if they don't know how you actually built the wallet beside just knowing that you built it in a virtual machine?

That's the way I see it, whether you like it or not

YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.

I wrote and I will repeat for the last time

I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll

[deisik]

YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.

I wrote and I will repeat for the last time

I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll

Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them

Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this conclusion correct?

[CHAOSiTEC]

YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.

I wrote and I will repeat for the last time

I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll

Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them

Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this correct?

I do know that they are not the same but you are running around in circles I need the github link for the source that needs to be compiled.. I start gitian with the gitIan descriptors that have the github link inside the text file. Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables if the gitian descriptors do not work I will fix them AND give those to the client that wants their sources compiled. Then I can compile the sources for them.. then other people can use those descriptors that I changed (if they needed to be changed) and compile the same files. Or if they did not needed to be changed other people can use the altcoin original gitian descriptors to compile the same fucking sources. which fucking part is it you do not understand?

[deisik]

YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.

I wrote and I will repeat for the last time

I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll

Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them

Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this correct?

I do know that they are not the same but you are running around in circles I need the github link for the source that needs to be compiled.. I start gitian with the gitIan descriptors that have the github link inside the text file. Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables if the gitian descriptors do not work I will fix them AND give those to the client that wants their sources compiled. Then I can compile the sources for them.. then other people can use those descriptors that I changed (if they needed to be changed) and compile the same files. Or if they did not needed to be changed other people can use the altcoin original gitian descriptors to compile the same fucking sources. which fucking part is it you do not understand?

In this way, people don't actually need your binaries, they just need that you fix those broken Gitian descriptors, since, if what you say is true, they can easily compile the sources themselves with Gitian ("Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables")...

Is that correct?

[CHAOSiTEC]

YOU HAVE NOT REALLY READ ANYTHING HAVE YOU.

I wrote and I will repeat for the last time

I will compile wallet using gitian if your gitian descriptors doesn't work I will fix them and give you the files I have fixed.. then I can compile the wallet and other can do the same and compare OMG.. really get a grip your stumping around in circles it basically doesn't matter what I write it seems like you are here just to troll

Github and Gitian aren't the same thing, so no need for using Caps Lock. You'd better "double check" your own posts before submitting them

Would people be able to compile sources themselves (without your help) and get the same binaries that you made for them after you make changes to what you call gitian descriptors? In other words, they pay you only once, and after that they can compile the wallet on their own? Is this correct?

I do know that they are not the same but you are running around in circles I need the github link for the source that needs to be compiled.. I start gitian with the gitIan descriptors that have the github link inside the text file. Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables if the gitian descriptors do not work I will fix them AND give those to the client that wants their sources compiled. Then I can compile the sources for them.. then other people can use those descriptors that I changed (if they needed to be changed) and compile the same files. Or if they did not needed to be changed other people can use the altcoin original gitian descriptors to compile the same fucking sources. which fucking part is it you do not understand?

In this way, people don't actually need your binaries, they just need that you fix those broken Gitian descriptors, since, if what you say is true, they can easily compile the sources themselves with Gitian ("Gitian compiles the sources and gives the finished executables")...

Is that correct?

Further, I don't quite like words like "deterministic" and "reasonably sure" used in two adjacent sentences. It seems like someone is trying to make things look better than they really are...

Am I overly paranoid here?

Yes you are.


On another note... if you look at the bitcoin/contrib/gitian-descriptiors/gitian-win.yml or Linux.yml or osx.yml then you will notice the build process is for bitcoins bitcoin-click bitcoin-tx and bitcoin-qt

This is the whole build process to build ALLE files including installer files for windows

Then why do we need your service, I don't get it? If someone has already built everything in a "reasonably sure" way?

Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple

Edit: I hate my phones autocorrected just saw that it had changed bitcoind to bitcoins and bitcoin-cli to bitcoin-click

see above i already answered your question there!
see circles... again and again, and again....

also here:

Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple

Is there an altcoin version of Gitian to "double check" your binary against? Do you actually build wallets in a controlled "deterministic" environment as the concept of Gitian demands (i.e. in a QEMU virtual machine with "faked times")?

Yes to both

Then I don't understand why bother to ask you if people can just download a precompiled binary given they are identical (which is what you basically claim)?

What's the catch?

Let me repeat what I wrote be before but hopefully in a more understandable way...

Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment

you should really try harder, because you are on your own, building your reputation as a troll, and that can affect your ability to get to be in any sig in the future....

[deisik]

You didn't answer the question

The only one who is trolling here is you

[CHAOSiTEC]

You didn't answer the question

The only one who is trolling here is you

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i actually did:

Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment

Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple

Basically I offer a service.. they can decide to use it or not. I do not add anything to the source. And if it's uncompileable I will offer to fix the compile descriptors so they can build the files themselves.. or I can compile them. Either way they pay for my services.

which one of those doesnt answer the question?

and how can it be trolling in my own thread when your the one questioning EVERYTHING, even though i have explained every detail to you, not once but twice, and we are now heading into the 3rd time...

[deisik]

i actually did:

Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment

Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple

Basically I offer a service.. they can decide to use it or not. I do not add anything to the source. And if it's uncompileable I will offer to fix the compile descriptors so they can build the files themselves.. or I can compile them. Either way they pay for my services.

which one of those doesnt answer the question?

In none of these posts you made reference to Gitian

[CHAOSiTEC]

i actually did:

Some altcoin developers struggle to with having a build process for windows and Mac I offer a service to compile it so they can focus on other things if they do not want to use the time to build said environment

Altcoin need wallets too.. and it seems people have a hard time building a stable invironment to build their wallets so they seek outside help... often they want to pay in some coin... but I would rater be paid in btc.. quite simple

Basically I offer a service.. they can decide to use it or not. I do not add anything to the source. And if it's uncompileable I will offer to fix the compile descriptors so they can build the files themselves.. or I can compile them. Either way they pay for my services.

which one of those doesnt answer the question?

In none of these posts you made reference to Gitian

descriptors ARE the gitian compile instruction files look at highlighted... i will make sure to mention both gitian and github in every text i write, your nitpicking.. EVERYTHING ABOUT FIXING AND COMPILING is with the goal of compiling via gitian. source files are in github, which is a source code management system.

so, you get paid per post i see, then accounts for the trolling... makes sense...

[deisik]

In none of these posts you made reference to Gitian

descriptors ARE the gitian compile instruction files look at highlighted... i will make sure to mention both gitian and github in every text i write, your nitpicking

Okay then