Proactive fighting with spammers. Doing it the right way

[utkarshm]

Good to see some action being taken on bitmixer signature campaigns spammers and many of them being get banned becuase of posting shit all around the forum and with their alts as well.
I think something like that should be done with yobit signature campaign spammers as well because i think there are many more spammers in their campaigns,i think many members are having 10-20 alts in that campaign.

[Lauda]

It is trivial for moderators to check whether someone is banned or not. I just have to take a look at their profile.

But a real pain in the butt for us.

I'm very well aware of that.

I would suggest a Rank: "Banned". One word, right under the username. It can even be a warning for other people.

Excellent.

This may actually be a good idea. I'll check with theymos to see what he thinks.

I was particularly wondering if us members would have ways of detecting sold accounts.
My example way seems good. Any other ways?

That example is really an obvious one if you look at the second page of last posts. I'm not aware of other methods, maybe someone else has a suggestion or two.

[mindrust]

Account farming reminds me democracy.

In a democratic country, a professor and a homeless dude have the same amount of votes. While a professor reproduces one or two children, an uneducated street scum reproduces like a rabbit without a brain.

Does that remind you something?

It is the same thing which happens in Europe as well as in this forum. This is a war which we can't win. (unless we find our own Trump and build a wall )

[rizzlarolla]

I think that having one or two alts is fine, and kind-of-encouraged in a free speech environment (e.g. a case where stating something may receive 'negative feedback' on your main account). The problem is the people account farming (we're talking about tens to hundreds of accounts).

First time i've seen any staff/mod/admin say that farming "hundreds of accounts" by 1 farmer (i read) is a "problem"
(i always said on my thread that i was not hunting anyone with 2 or 3 accounts - only organised farmers)
Is this "problem" also being addressed somehow in this clean-up? Advertiser-manager-spammer-farmer.
I have shown how easy they are to id, with 100% accuracy - no complaints/dispute from any farmed account listed yet!

(or please expand in my thread with some detail's on this, so as not to derail here with farming details. I'll be nice as poss, i'm genuinely interested  )

[deisik]

Account sales can't  be banned because they can be facilitated off this forum and you may never know what deal has gone through and where. How can you control something that doesn't happen within the reach of the forum??

No, you are wrong. Account sales can't be stopped, but they can be made bannable. If we make this a punishable offense, this introduces a huge risk to both parties involved in such trades. I'm pretty sure that this would have a decent effect on this though.

What's wrong with account sales as such, and how are they particularly different from any other sales? Of course, sold accounts can be used for something considered illicit (for example, spamming) or just outright wrongful (for example, scamming). But, on the other hand, Bitcoin is also massively used for illegal activities, though I don't see many people here calling for banning Bitcoin sales

How can you control something that doesn't happen within the reach of the forum??

One should never forbid what one lacks the power to prevent

[botany]

I would suggest a Rank: "Banned". One word, right under the username. It can even be a warning for other people.

Excellent.

This may actually be a good idea. I'll check with theymos to see what he thinks.

This has actually been suggested before,
It was shot down by badbear.

I think there is only this log :

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php    , but as you told only the last ~24h of action will appear in that log.  Maybe when an user is banned I think it easy to theymos add under the "rank coins" a little word:  "Banned"  ,

What do you think ?

[deisik]

The throne is never empty

Now that the Bitmixer signature campaign is handled appropriately (I hope Lauda doesn't heavily abuse her current position as the campaign's manager, lol), there is a new kid on the block. Hail the new guardians of spam, the Byteball Signature Campaign, the most recent sanctuary and retreat for shit posters. As an aside, it looks like a lot of kicked-out Bitmixer members voted in the thread recently, despite the obvious fact that the proper management of signature campaigns has greatly helped to reduce the amount of spam on the forum

[Lauda]

The throne is never empty

Now that the Bitmixer signature campaign is handled appropriately (I hope Lauda doesn't heavily abuse her current position as the campaign's manager, lol),

Well, I'll try not to be *too strict*. The campaign is finally somewhat settling with 50-60 users that are at least decent (IMO).

Hail the new guardians of spam, the Byteball Signature Campaign, the most recent sanctuary and retreat for shit posters. As an aside, it looks like a lot of kicked-out Bitmixer members voted in the thread recently, despite the obvious fact that the proper management of signature campaigns has greatly helped to reduce the amount of spam on the forum

I have just sent them a PM. If they do not take action/respond, then the community should take action for them. Our measures are only effective if most of the managers are willing to participate.