Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event

[Spendulus]

Planet Earth. The 3rd rock, if you will. But since I have had my head under a rock apparently, when I missed solid evidence of Hillary Rodham Clinton being a lesbian. Surely you can point me to this prolific evidence? I imagine you should be able to provide lots of links, from reputable sources, no?

Will this work?

http://www.politico.com/gallery/2013/07/how-close-are-huma-abedin-and-hillary-clinton-169489?slide=0

I don't have any private videos showing Hillary having sex with Huma, if you only want videographic evidence. Seems like they didn't stored their private pics and videos in iCloud.

I read Politico about 6 times a day (literally), so I was surprised you chose this source. So I read the article (looked at the pictures mostly, not alot of text). I didn't really get a lesbian vibe, more of an asshole vibe from Hillary. Huma is floating around the background holding some shit for Hillary (giant bag, papers). Reminds me of Anne Hathaway in the 'Devil Wears Prada'. But nah, this is no more close than I would expect two females that have been working together for almost a decade to behave. And Weiner is seriously, seriously into poon; I'm thinking he wouldn't have married a lesbian. This is not a one chick dude. At one point, she was putting out, even if that may have changed.

Unfortunately, this won't work. Any other sources?

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

[tvbcof]

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

Rumor is that one of the things on Weiner's laptop is a vid of HRC and Abedin teaming up on the sexual abuse a female minor.  I have not idea if the rumor is true, but I would not rule it out.  Basically, to be 'eligible' for (establishment sponsorship for) as high a position as POTUS, such goodies probably do need to exist in the archives of certain intelligence collectors.  That's how I read things at least.

[DD-Lex]

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

Rumor is that one of the things on Weiner's laptop is a vid of HRC and Abedin teaming up on the sexual abuse a female minor.  I have not idea if the rumor is true, but I would not rule it out.  Basically, to be 'eligible' for (establishment sponsorship for) as high a position as POTUS, such goodies probably do need to exist in the archives of certain intelligence collectors.  That's how I read things at least.

Wow. Where the world is going. I did not hear such details of the intimate life of such outstanding people. Even the yellow press about secretly accentuates attention. And what is the orientation of Billy?

[tvbcof]

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

Rumor is that one of the things on Weiner's laptop is a vid of HRC and Abedin teaming up on the sexual abuse a female minor.  I have not idea if the rumor is true, but I would not rule it out.  Basically, to be 'eligible' for (establishment sponsorship for) as high a position as POTUS, such goodies probably do need to exist in the archives of certain intelligence collectors.  That's how I read things at least.

Wow. Where the world is going. I did not hear such details of the intimate life of such outstanding people. Even the yellow press about secretly accentuates attention. And what is the orientation of Billy?

Straight, and with a penchant for violence when he engages in rape.  So I've read.

[GreenBits]

Planet Earth. The 3rd rock, if you will. But since I have had my head under a rock apparently, when I missed solid evidence of Hillary Rodham Clinton being a lesbian. Surely you can point me to this prolific evidence? I imagine you should be able to provide lots of links, from reputable sources, no?

Will this work?

http://www.politico.com/gallery/2013/07/how-close-are-huma-abedin-and-hillary-clinton-169489?slide=0

I don't have any private videos showing Hillary having sex with Huma, if you only want videographic evidence. Seems like they didn't stored their private pics and videos in iCloud.

I read Politico about 6 times a day (literally), so I was surprised you chose this source. So I read the article (looked at the pictures mostly, not alot of text). I didn't really get a lesbian vibe, more of an asshole vibe from Hillary. Huma is floating around the background holding some shit for Hillary (giant bag, papers). Reminds me of Anne Hathaway in the 'Devil Wears Prada'. But nah, this is no more close than I would expect two females that have been working together for almost a decade to behave. And Weiner is seriously, seriously into poon; I'm thinking he wouldn't have married a lesbian. This is not a one chick dude. At one point, she was putting out, even if that may have changed.

Unfortunately, this won't work. Any other sources?

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

LOL, so you would rather have a reality television host, that won't release his taxes or divest, but you are afraid of a lesbian with decades of political experience, that has actually served in the White House?

What's your beef with lesbians? I thought Rebuplicans believed in meritocracy. If she does eat box, how would that affect her ability to lead? I wanted Bernie, but either one of them has more experience that the POTUS.

Are you that afraid of a woman, bro?

And don't you think it's odd, how we got leaks on Flynn and Sessions, but this damning evidence that would certainly sink the Clintons forever, make them out to be the AntiChrist you guys paint her as (she just a really rich old white woman as far as I see), has never surfaced after all these years?

And if she is lesbian, she keeps her shit tight. Trump can't even have pissplay with sex workers without fucking it up.

So, I think I favor the ninja lesbian over the failed businessman. Maybe we wouldn't have all these leaks. Running a child sex ring (ROFL, you guys are on that shit) must make for a shrewd ship.

Trump could suck dicks on camera for Scooby Snacks. I could give a single fuck. I just want someone with policies that make fucking sense. Put Bill back in that bitch. He wasn't even that fond of us, Blacks, but at least we wouldn't be buddy fucking Russia and calling our intelligence agencies and media the enemy. Got caught getting his dick sucked, and lied about the shit, but still wasn't derp enough to accuse the media of being the enemy. And when the Monica shit was going down (which was childhood popcorn) the media was not friend of the Clintons.


Hell, I'd take Bush Jr again, for 3 more terms, at this point.

[Spendulus]

Planet Earth. The 3rd rock, if you will. But since I have had my head under a rock apparently, when I missed solid evidence of Hillary Rodham Clinton being a lesbian. Surely you can point me to this prolific evidence? I imagine you should be able to provide lots of links, from reputable sources, no?

Will this work?

http://www.politico.com/gallery/2013/07/how-close-are-huma-abedin-and-hillary-clinton-169489?slide=0

I don't have any private videos showing Hillary having sex with Huma, if you only want videographic evidence. Seems like they didn't stored their private pics and videos in iCloud.

I read Politico about 6 times a day (literally), so I was surprised you chose this source. So I read the article (looked at the pictures mostly, not alot of text). I didn't really get a lesbian vibe, more of an asshole vibe from Hillary. Huma is floating around the background holding some shit for Hillary (giant bag, papers). Reminds me of Anne Hathaway in the 'Devil Wears Prada'. But nah, this is no more close than I would expect two females that have been working together for almost a decade to behave. And Weiner is seriously, seriously into poon; I'm thinking he wouldn't have married a lesbian. This is not a one chick dude. At one point, she was putting out, even if that may have changed.

Unfortunately, this won't work. Any other sources?

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

LOL, so you would rather have a reality television host, that won't release his taxes or divest, but you are afraid of a lesbian with decades of political experience, that has actually served in the White House?

What's your beef with lesbians? I thought Rebuplicans believed in meritocracy. If she does eat box, how would that affect her ability to lead? I wanted Bernie, but either one of them has more experience that the POTUS.

Are you that afraid of a woman, bro?

And don't you think it's odd, how we got leaks on Flynn and Sessions, but this damning evidence that would certainly sink the Clintons forever, make them out to be the AntiChrist you guys paint her as (she just a really rich old white woman as far as I see), has never surfaced after all these years?

And if she is lesbian, she keeps her shit tight. Trump can't even have pissplay with sex workers without fucking it up.

So, I think I favor the ninja lesbian over the failed businessman. Maybe we wouldn't have all these leaks. Running a child sex ring (ROFL, you guys are on that shit) must make for a shrewd ship.

Trump could suck dicks on camera for Scooby Snacks. I could give a single fuck. I just want someone with policies that make fucking sense. Put Bill back in that bitch. He wasn't even that fond of us, Blacks, but at least we wouldn't be buddy fucking Russia and calling our intelligence agencies and media the enemy. Got caught getting his dick sucked, and lied about the shit, but still wasn't derp enough to accuse the media of being the enemy. And when the Monica shit was going down (which was childhood popcorn) the media was not friend of the Clintons.


Hell, I'd take Bush Jr again, for 3 more terms, at this point.

DAMN!!!

YOU'D TAKE BUSH JR?

HEY, BRO. 

You afraid of a businessman POTUS?   (Lol...)

[GreenBits]

Planet Earth. The 3rd rock, if you will. But since I have had my head under a rock apparently, when I missed solid evidence of Hillary Rodham Clinton being a lesbian. Surely you can point me to this prolific evidence? I imagine you should be able to provide lots of links, from reputable sources, no?

Will this work?

http://www.politico.com/gallery/2013/07/how-close-are-huma-abedin-and-hillary-clinton-169489?slide=0

I don't have any private videos showing Hillary having sex with Huma, if you only want videographic evidence. Seems like they didn't stored their private pics and videos in iCloud.

I read Politico about 6 times a day (literally), so I was surprised you chose this source. So I read the article (looked at the pictures mostly, not alot of text). I didn't really get a lesbian vibe, more of an asshole vibe from Hillary. Huma is floating around the background holding some shit for Hillary (giant bag, papers). Reminds me of Anne Hathaway in the 'Devil Wears Prada'. But nah, this is no more close than I would expect two females that have been working together for almost a decade to behave. And Weiner is seriously, seriously into poon; I'm thinking he wouldn't have married a lesbian. This is not a one chick dude. At one point, she was putting out, even if that may have changed.

Unfortunately, this won't work. Any other sources?

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

LOL, so you would rather have a reality television host, that won't release his taxes or divest, but you are afraid of a lesbian with decades of political experience, that has actually served in the White House?

What's your beef with lesbians? I thought Rebuplicans believed in meritocracy. If she does eat box, how would that affect her ability to lead? I wanted Bernie, but either one of them has more experience that the POTUS.

Are you that afraid of a woman, bro?

And don't you think it's odd, how we got leaks on Flynn and Sessions, but this damning evidence that would certainly sink the Clintons forever, make them out to be the AntiChrist you guys paint her as (she just a really rich old white woman as far as I see), has never surfaced after all these years?

And if she is lesbian, she keeps her shit tight. Trump can't even have pissplay with sex workers without fucking it up.

So, I think I favor the ninja lesbian over the failed businessman. Maybe we wouldn't have all these leaks. Running a child sex ring (ROFL, you guys are on that shit) must make for a shrewd ship.

Trump could suck dicks on camera for Scooby Snacks. I could give a single fuck. I just want someone with policies that make fucking sense. Put Bill back in that bitch. He wasn't even that fond of us, Blacks, but at least we wouldn't be buddy fucking Russia and calling our intelligence agencies and media the enemy. Got caught getting his dick sucked, and lied about the shit, but still wasn't derp enough to accuse the media of being the enemy. And when the Monica shit was going down (which was childhood popcorn) the media was not friend of the Clintons.


Hell, I'd take Bush Jr again, for 3 more terms, at this point.

DAMN!!!

YOU'D TAKE BUSH JR?

HEY, BRO. 

You afraid of a businessman POTUS?   (Lol...)

No, Id rather take a guy that wants to 'make love with OBGYN' then a guy that has lied to half of my country about his intentions. As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was, we had none of this scandal, none of this international condenatiom. He fooled the fools, selling the lie that trickle down economics actually works. I'm mad because I see the same person that Hillary is accused of being, the same pandering to corporate interest, the same corruption, but because he makes the weak feel safe by spouting rhetoric about building a fucking wall, and getting a convenient boogeyman (foreigners). If you were going to get a Hillary with a dick, you might as well have taken Hillary. She is a politician. Agent Orange is an insult to a proud democracy, that, while not perfect, is ours. We let the puppy shit the carpet, and noone wants to clear it up.

[Sithara007]

No offense but your logic above bolded does not hold.  These people are after power and control, marriages of convenience are likely quite common.  That certainly includes the Bill/Hillary and the Weiner/Huma ones.

Google Hillary lesbian, have fun.  It's been an open secret for decades.  Numerous cases Bill Clinton has said this.

By the way when I mentioned this I wasn't disparaging Hillary, but just noting that no I don't want a lesbian POTUS with a Muslim squeeze from the Middle East.  That stinks to high heavan.

Rumor is that one of the things on Weiner's laptop is a vid of HRC and Abedin teaming up on the sexual abuse a female minor.  I have not idea if the rumor is true, but I would not rule it out.  Basically, to be 'eligible' for (establishment sponsorship for) as high a position as POTUS, such goodies probably do need to exist in the archives of certain intelligence collectors.  That's how I read things at least.

It is not a secret that Weiner kept some videographic evidence on Hillary, probably for the purpose of blackmailing her later. Weiner probably leaked the evidence from Abedin's personal computer.

[barbarah]

The funniest thing in all this, to me at least, is the mentioning of Russia.
Russia if you're listening, it was the russians hackers and so on I don't know why Clinton and Obama are so worried about possible Russian threat, we are no longer living in Cold War time!

It really seems the Trump administration wants a cold war so they have an enemy they can conquer and say where the greatest.
Obama had his in Bin Laden so Trump has to have his ...
fill in the blanks.

[tvbcof]

Got around to listening to some mainstream on this issue.

For one thing, one doesn't 'wire tap' these days.  One normally splits fiber optics.  I wonder if Trump didn't deliberately give his opposition an opportunity to dig a hole deeper.  He did use quotes around 'wire tap' in his tweets.

Secondly, the mainstream is ...

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/325648-trump-was-right-after-all-on-the-obama-wiretapping

Bah Ha Ha!

"I recognize the lion by his paw" and this one looks to me a lot like it belongs to Steve Bannon

Wonder how much longer Turley will be free to opine at The Hill?

[Spendulus]

...As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was...

Bush Jr. wasn't dumb.

[tvbcof]

...As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was...

Bush Jr. wasn't dumb.

I've always suspected that he was significantly effected by substance abuse, but that he probably was not naively stupid.  Un-interested perhaps.  He was in the 25th percentile in terms of aptitude when Papa Bush got in into the Texas air national guard to keep him out of combat yet he graduated around the middle and was briefly able to operate a military jet aircraft (unless that was stagecraft which I would not rule out.)  That says something to me about his capabilities.

As prez, GW had a 6 year string of getting everything he wanted as soon as he wanted out of the Dems so it's funny to hear them call him dumb.  OTOH, he was an installed puppet who probably did little or no strategy or planning on his own.  Most presidents of modern times have been this way, but GW was among the most obvious in this regard.

An entertaining hypothesis I ran across recently is that GW's grandfather through his mother was Aleister Crowley.  That would be hilarious.

[Sithara007]

...As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was...

Bush Jr. wasn't dumb.

He was definitely not dumb, at least when compared to the disaster which succeeded him. That said, Bush Jr. was arrogant at times, and his adventures (such as the Iraq invasion) inflated the American federal debt by quite a bit.

[sourris01]

...As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was...

Bush Jr. wasn't dumb.

I've always suspected that he was significantly effected by substance abuse, but that he probably was not naively stupid.  Un-interested perhaps.  He was in the 25th percentile in terms of aptitude when Papa Bush got in into the Texas air national guard to keep him out of combat yet he graduated around the middle and was briefly able to operate a military jet aircraft (unless that was stagecraft which I would not rule out.)  That says something to me about his capabilities.

As prez, GW had a 6 year string of getting everything he wanted as soon as he wanted out of the Dems so it's funny to hear them call him dumb.  OTOH, he was an installed puppet who probably did little or no strategy or planning on his own.  Most presidents of modern times have been this way, but GW was among the most obvious in this regard.

An entertaining hypothesis I ran across recently is that GW's grandfather through his mother was Aleister Crowley.  That would be hilarious.

We can laugh at Trump and Bush, because of their psychological and visual data, but each of them does not have something that Obama did not have. The firmness of their intentions and tough stance on some political issues have never been given to Obama.

[Spendulus]

...As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was...

Bush Jr. wasn't dumb.

I've always suspected that he was significantly effected by substance abuse, but that he probably was not naively stupid.  Un-interested perhaps.  He was in the 25th percentile in terms of aptitude when Papa Bush got in into the Texas air national guard to keep him out of combat yet he graduated around the middle and was briefly able to operate a military jet aircraft (unless that was stagecraft which I would not rule out.)  That says something to me about his capabilities.

As prez, GW had a 6 year string of getting everything he wanted as soon as he wanted out of the Dems so it's funny to hear them call him dumb.  ....

Indeed.

What is known for certain is the existance of a long, carefully orchestrated propaganda campaign to make people think Bush was dumb.

[Sithara007]

...As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was...

Bush Jr. wasn't dumb.

I've always suspected that he was significantly effected by substance abuse, but that he probably was not naively stupid.  Un-interested perhaps.  He was in the 25th percentile in terms of aptitude when Papa Bush got in into the Texas air national guard to keep him out of combat yet he graduated around the middle and was briefly able to operate a military jet aircraft (unless that was stagecraft which I would not rule out.)  That says something to me about his capabilities.

As prez, GW had a 6 year string of getting everything he wanted as soon as he wanted out of the Dems so it's funny to hear them call him dumb.  ....

Indeed.

What is known for certain is the existance of a long, carefully orchestrated propaganda campaign to make people think Bush was dumb.

All around the world, the liberals have used mainstream media propaganda to their maximum use. Look at their current campaign against Donald Trump. They are constantly lying and twisting the facts according to their own liking.

[tvbcof]

Indeed.

What is known for certain is the existance of a long, carefully orchestrated propaganda campaign to make people think Bush was dumb.

I think so.  A strategy inspired by Sun Tsu's observations about the odds for those who don't know their enemy I'm guessing.

In the present I strongly suspect that Trump is unusually intelligent (and I still hold out hope that he will prove worth supporting) so I stay mum with quite amusement when the neo-progressives go on and on about how stupid the guy is.

What is extra funny is that most of the neo-progressives have no clue whatsoever about themselves either.  That is, they are being used like bitches by people who are the antithesis of what most of them think right and good.  They have no chance whatsoever, but the battle will be unpleasant none-the-less and I would prefer that it is somehow avoided.

[GreenBits]

...As cement block fucking dumb as Bush was...

Bush Jr. wasn't dumb.

I've always suspected that he was significantly effected by substance abuse, but that he probably was not naively stupid.  Un-interested perhaps.  He was in the 25th percentile in terms of aptitude when Papa Bush got in into the Texas air national guard to keep him out of combat yet he graduated around the middle and was briefly able to operate a military jet aircraft (unless that was stagecraft which I would not rule out.)  That says something to me about his capabilities.

As prez, GW had a 6 year string of getting everything he wanted as soon as he wanted out of the Dems so it's funny to hear them call him dumb.  ....

Indeed.

What is known for certain is the existance of a long, carefully orchestrated propaganda campaign to make people think Bush was dumb.

All around the world, the liberals have used mainstream media propaganda to their maximum use. Look at their current campaign against Donald Trump. They are constantly lying and twisting the facts according to their own liking.

Says the guy from the crew that gives us Breitbart, and InfoWars.

Let me get this off my chest. Evangelicals, I'm calling you out. You as well Middle America.

Please stop teaching your kids to distrust authority because you don't agree with it. This fake news bullshit sounds dumb. Here are some truths to ponder:

A social network is the reason why the game 'pass the message' always goes so horribly. People only disseminate news they agree with.

Just because something is liberal, doesn't mean it's fake. People get sued when actual fake news starts being disseminated. This is why reputable outlets don't really fuck with this, too much brand at stake. Ask Dan Rather about this.

Don't label something as liberal just because it criticixes The Fool. He's just, really fucking easy to criticize. The only apologist for Trump are the ignorant poor, the extremely rich, and those that want him not to get impeached until the GOP has its turn with America. Quick, she's passed out. Get the boys and a camera.

Liberal media lacks the tartness of fearmongering, huh? You miss the flavor of paranoia from your news? And it wouldn't be so bad if people just admitted they don't agree with a news source, and moved on, but the shit championed at truth in lieu of a reputable, established outlets is absurd.

Alex Jones is a crazy head. And he wasn't always, it was a gradual thing.

[Spendulus]

Indeed.

What is known for certain is the existance of a long, carefully orchestrated propaganda campaign to make people think Bush was dumb.

I think so.  A strategy inspired by Sun Tsu's observations about the odds for those who don't know their enemy I'm guessing.

In the present I strongly suspect that Trump is unusually intelligent (and I still hold out hope that he will prove worth supporting) so I stay mum with quite amusement when the neo-progressives go on and on about how stupid the guy is.

What is extra funny is that most of the neo-progressives have no clue whatsoever about themselves either.  That is, they are being used like bitches by people who are the antithesis of what most of them think right and good.  They have no chance whatsoever, but the battle will be unpleasant none-the-less and I would prefer that it is somehow avoided.

Repeatedly in the last year, one gets the impression that the number and importance of things going on under the table is far more important than what's on top of the table.

Hence, liberal screaming pantywaists talking about that latest juicy item laid on top of the table.....

well, they just are not where things are happening.