Ban Criptomen

[Vod]

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum.

He did violate the rules of the forum - by plagiarizing.

He was not banned for buying an account.

[leshak]

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum.

He did violate the rules of the forum - by plagiarizing.

He was not banned for buying an account.

Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.

[TryNinja]

Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.

He accepted the risks when he bought the account.

[DdmrDdmr]

<...>
Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.

Let’s put it this way: if I purchase a car from some random guy I may be an angel driving and looking after the car, always complying with regulations and keeping it bright and shiny. Nevertheless, the car and its previous owner may have a history that spins back on me even though I have nothing to do with it.
For example, the car might have been used as collateral in a loan, or simply be on the list of claims from the tax office for the previous owner’s debts. It can also have unforeseen internal pathologies that spring to life, or have been used to commit a crime and be required as proof by the authorities. 

These kind of risks come along with purchasing goods from another person, and in this case there is no way round but to accept the loss of the account.

[leshak]

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

[k0er]

In the case of the car, you can still prove the fact of the violation of the law by the previous owner, and in the event of violation of the forum rules by the account - it doesn`t matter which of the account owners made it. Even if the purchase of this account occurred on the forum with transactions and full correspondence.

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

How should the forum regulate the purchase / sale of accounts? Why do you compare federal laws and punishments with forum rules ?? Are you in the right mind?

[athanz88]

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

You are not in your right mind clearly. Let me get this straight to you because Ddmr's way on telling this with a car as an example is kinda has a loophole to counter. Buying and selling account is not moderated by the forum, so why the hell does forum should look into the matters that is not moderated by the forum? Maybe banning a scammer can be done in this case, but repairing a broken thing you bought is not forum's responsibility, instead you should complain to the seller who sold you that account.

When you buying a second-hand car from others and you find the car won't start in the next day, do you complain to the car dealer or the person who sold you that car?

[leshak]

In the case of the car, you can still prove the fact of the violation of the law by the previous owner, and in the event of violation of the forum rules by the account - it doesn`t matter which of the account owners made it. Even if the purchase of this account occurred on the forum with transactions and full correspondence.

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

How should the forum regulate the purchase / sale of accounts? Why do you compare federal laws and punishments with forum rules ?? Are you in the right mind?

How to regulate the purchase or sale, I do not know, but you need to punish the guilty! This rule should not have shades. What is the use of punishing the obedient at the forum?

[leshak]

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

You are not in your right mind clearly. Let me get this straight to you because Ddmr's way on telling this with a car as an example is kinda has a loophole to counter. Buying and selling account is not moderated by the forum, so why the hell does forum should look into the matters that is not moderated by the forum? Maybe banning a scammer can be done in this case, but repairing a broken thing you bought is not forum's responsibility, instead you should complain to the seller who sold you that account.

When you buying a second-hand car from others and you find the car won't start in the next day, do you complain to the car dealer or the person who sold you that car?

The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?

[k0er]

The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?

He copied someone else's posts:

Copy:

Гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe... в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe 

Original:

гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe...в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe

[leshak]

The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?

He copied someone else's posts:

Copy:

Гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe... в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe  

Original:

гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe...в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe

Always Ban a person, not an account! It is for this reason, the opening of a new account, is considered an evasion. The owner of the account, did not write this post. Do you know the rules of the forum?
Rule 23. It says: forum moderators, can always interpret the situation based on their own considerations. You can not blame them, they have a lot of work, and there is no way to sort things out. They have the right to do so. Guilty or not guilty! Now they have complete information of what happened. Thank you for your time and participation, friends. Criptomen is my brother, from here worry.

[vlom]

awakening is difficult. after you realize that you have done something wrong.
why the hell did you buy an account?

[Criptomen@]

awakening is difficult. after you realize that you have done something wrong.
why the hell did you buy an account?

Well, I was told that this is a very good investment. With time I will be able to return the invested funds in parallel using the forum to help and have help from the same people as me. People who are interested in cryptocurrency. Before buying, I inspected his messages on the forum, didn't see anything suspicious, everything looked normal. All posts are loosely made from the head, not a single copied article etc. Moreover, the account is functioning, not in the ban. I bought an account, used it for 2 months and got a ban for something I did not even know about. I'm not saying that I'm a saint, I ask you not to ban an account, give me a warning for a week or two or months, as the moderator decides. I'm not the person who broke the rules, I am really trying to stick to the rules. I don't understand at all how much you must to be stupid for copying someone else's post with the same mistakes and put it out for your thoughts ... Especially the account is not a Newbie.

I'm just asking not to punish so seriously.

[Xal0lex]

All posts after June 22 made by me...

Your post, which was written on July 10.

Copy:

Bitcoin is the first decentralized payment network that operates only due of its users, without centralized management or intermediaries. It is the lack of centralized control over the processes - the main reason why governments are afraid of crypto-currency.

Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities.

Bitcoin doesn't allow to do it all, so they are dissatisfied

Original:

Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities. But all this control is lost when non-governmental organizations devise their currency.

Control over the currency has many different hidden currents, especially in the framework of the fiscal policy of the country, the business environment, and, of course, crime control.

Any more questions? IMO, the problem is solved.

[Criptomen@]

Any more questions? IMO, the problem is solved.

I read it in the news and translated it into English by Google, after reading the result, I saw that everything was fine and left the translation

The original news in Russian lang can find by Google

https://image.ibb.co/cNNrBe/12333.jpg

and here u can see translation by Google

https://image.ibb.co/bVbexK/4566.jpg

I didn't even imagine that among the thousands of messages someone did exactly as I did

[TryNinja]

~

So, instead of plagiarising from a different user, you plagiarized from another website and Google translated it (maybe to hide)? Nothing changed - it's still plagiarism.

The ban is deserved.

[athanz88]

The finding from xal0lex can be considered as plagiarism too because you did not mention any source on that post. You are in bad luck man, now you do not have any reasons to counter this one. I am not bashing you, but that is the rules of the forum, plagiarism is like a high level crime in here, in fact, plagiarism is a serious crime even in real world and can lead to bad results in your life.

And remember 1 thing before you make an investment. If it is too good to be true, then it is mostly a scam.

[leshak]

All posts after June 22 made by me...

Your post, which was written on July 10.

Copy:

Bitcoin is the first decentralized payment network that operates only due of its users, without centralized management or intermediaries. It is the lack of centralized control over the processes - the main reason why governments are afraid of crypto-currency.

Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities.

Bitcoin doesn't allow to do it all, so they are dissatisfied

Original:

Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities. But all this control is lost when non-governmental organizations devise their currency.

Control over the currency has many different hidden currents, especially in the framework of the fiscal policy of the country, the business environment, and, of course, crime control.

Any more questions? IMO, the problem is solved.

The topic can be closed. The question is settled. Thanks to all.

[Johnnygroomq]

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum.

He did violate the rules of the forum - by plagiarizing.

He was not banned for buying an account.

Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.

If in fact, he bought already means his account, it means you had to look in advance whether there is a problem on that account or not.and not give money, not knowing what with this account.