Bitcoin Forum
May 07, 2024, 04:42:21 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: 1 2 [All]
  Print  
Author Topic: Ban Criptomen  (Read 611 times)
Criptomen@ (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 14, 2018, 11:00:52 AM
Last edit: September 14, 2018, 11:17:55 AM by Criptomen@
 #1

Hi,

My account was banned, and i don't know why.

Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874624

I see this message on the main page
"Sorry Criptomen, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: ...
"

Thank you.
1715100141
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715100141

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715100141
Reply with quote  #2

1715100141
Report to moderator
1715100141
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715100141

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715100141
Reply with quote  #2

1715100141
Report to moderator
1715100141
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715100141

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715100141
Reply with quote  #2

1715100141
Report to moderator
The Bitcoin network protocol was designed to be extremely flexible. It can be used to create timed transactions, escrow transactions, multi-signature transactions, etc. The current features of the client only hint at what will be possible in the future.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
Alone055
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 1050
Merit: 204


Cashback 15%


View Profile WWW
September 14, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
Last edit: September 14, 2018, 11:18:12 AM by Alone055
 #2

The only account I can find from search with the username you have in the title is CriptoMan which was last active on 27, May, 2018 and hasn't posted since November, 2017.
Found it!
Your account was autobanned, though I can't figure out as for what.

Quote
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #874624

Account Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874624

You should probably post the profile link of your account along with the message that you get when you open the account so that we can check why it was banned.

mdayonliner
Copper Member
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 630
Merit: 420


We are Bitcoin!


View Profile
September 14, 2018, 11:19:11 AM
 #3

First prove that you are the real owner of the account. Signing a message with the bitcoin address (if staked here) will help

2nd: There must be a reason for banner because mods hardly do mistakes when it comes to banning account. You do not know why - is not gonna work here AFAIK


Update
You may appeal here: ..."
The follow the procedure.

It's a shame that after being a Hero member (main account if that is of-course), you do not know the procedures?

Be happy be at peace. Looking forward to BTC at $1M
TBboys
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 126
Merit: 15

Fast, Smart, Trustworthy


View Profile
September 14, 2018, 11:19:30 AM
 #4

для бayнти здecь нyжнa вepификaция? или eщe нe дyмaли нaд этим?

Here are some KYC details

Participants that did not purchase tokens and did not make deposits will not see any KYC form
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of less than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name and Date Of Birth. We will check these participants for AML compliance using 3rd party vendor.
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of higher than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name, Date of Birth and requirement to upload personal ID document
After the KYC documents are submitted, we will run through verification procedure and will communicate the results as soon as these are available. If you do not see any notification, it means your application is still in process and there is nothing to worry about.
Participants that did not pass KYC verification will get their contribution back after the completion of KYC procedure
This process will take at least 5 days and at most 4 weeks
The tokens will be locked till completion of KYC procedure for all participants.


Quote
BitClave's KYC procedure
Mark Shwartzman avatar
Written by Mark Shwartzman
Updated over a week ago
While regulations around Token Sales are different in every country, following the recommendation of our legal team, BitClave decided to perform KYC (Know Your Customer) procedure for Token Sale contributors.

This is done to reduce any chance of legal complications in future and to ensure smooth and successful development of the project. We strongly believe the above goals are fully inline with the expectations of our community and in the best interest of our community

BitClave uses third party services for ID screening. BitClave performed a detailed due diligence in selecting the vendors to guarantee smooth and safe process. Your information will be kept safe and secure and will be used only for KYC procedure

Here are some KYC details

Participants that did not purchase tokens and did not make deposits will not see any KYC form
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of less than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name and Date Of Birth. We will check these participants for AML compliance using 3rd party vendor.
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of higher than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name, Date of Birth and requirement to upload personal ID document
After the KYC documents are submitted, we will run through verification procedure and will communicate the results as soon as these are available. If you do not see any notification, it means your application is still in process and there is nothing to worry about.
Participants that did not pass KYC verification will get their contribution back after the completion of KYC procedure
This process will take at least 5 days and at most 4 weeks
The tokens will be locked till completion of the KYC procedure for all participants.
Once the KYC procedure completed for all participants, we will notify you by email about the next steps.

Plagiarism:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030152.msg25437730#msg25437730
source: https://intercom.help/bitclave/english-articles/bitclaves-kyc-procedure

There is nothing wrong with this ban. I saw a lot of suspected plagiarism in your local thread. This is just one of them.

FST Network   Fast, Smart, Trustworthy.   Bounty
Medium   Facebook   Twitter   Telegram
TryNinja
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2828
Merit: 6977



View Profile WWW
September 14, 2018, 11:25:12 AM
 #5

~snip~

Plagiarism:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030152.msg25437730#msg25437730
source: https://intercom.help/bitclave/english-articles/bitclaves-kyc-procedure

There is nothing wrong with this ban. I saw a lot of suspected plagiarism in your local thread. This is just one of them.
I agree that he should have put the source of the information. But is this really a purposeful plagiarism? Someone asked for the ICO KYC procedure, he found it and posted it.

IMO, it doesn't look like he tried to get credit for the post.

.
.HUGE.
▄██████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄███████████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████▌██▌▐██▐██▐████▄███
████▐██▐████▌██▌██▌██▌██
█████▀███▀███▀▐██▐██▐█████

▀█████████████████████████▀

▀███████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████▀

▀██████████▀▀
█▀▀▀▀











█▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
CASINSPORTSBOOK
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀█











▄▄▄▄█
TBboys
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 126
Merit: 15

Fast, Smart, Trustworthy


View Profile
September 14, 2018, 11:29:01 AM
 #6

~snip~

Plagiarism:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030152.msg25437730#msg25437730
source: https://intercom.help/bitclave/english-articles/bitclaves-kyc-procedure

There is nothing wrong with this ban. I saw a lot of suspected plagiarism in your local thread. This is just one of them.
I agree that he should have put the source of the information. But is this really a purposeful plagiarism? Someone asked for the ICO KYC procedure and he posted it.

IMO, it doesn't look like he tried to get credit for the post.

As an old member of the forum, how to correctly quote other people's articles is a basic common sense. I have seen other members have made the same mistakes before, quoted an article to reply to a topic, but did not indicate source, they were all banned, ther no exceptions here. For fairness.

FST Network   Fast, Smart, Trustworthy.   Bounty
Medium   Facebook   Twitter   Telegram
Johnnygroomq
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 35
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 14, 2018, 12:19:56 PM
 #7

Hi,

My account was banned, and i don't know why.

Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874624

I see this message on the main page
"Sorry Criptomen, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: ...
"

Thank you.
Just not who will not block.Rules did not violate?Here people are smart, they will not cheat!
DdmrDdmr
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2310
Merit: 10759


There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain


View Profile WWW
September 14, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
 #8

<...>
IMO, it doesn't look like he tried to get credit for the post.
We could apply the basic principle of "plagiarism is plagiarism" and that’s it, no further debate needed. That is the leading view in terms of application, and that there are no sweeteners to it.

What got me thinking about this case is that it was posted in November 2017, before the Merit System took flight. The plagiarized text had, at least from this point of view, no potential benefit for the user (I figure it was reported recently, and hasn’t been in a queue for 10 months).  I don’t know how plagiarism was treated back in the early days, but what would happen if someone started to dig into people’s posting history and located potential plagiarized posts dating back from years ago (2012,2013,2014,2015 for example). Would the user be banned too?
As I said, I don’t know what the rules looked like back then, and even if plagiarism was a thing, but some old timers may have misquoted something years ago and should that come back spinning now when perhaps the context is different? Is there a time limit ?

Note: In Spain we have had a Minister from the Government have to stand-down this week for having plagiarized part of her Master, the opposition leader is also being questioned for his Master, and even the President is having his thesis scrutinized for plagiarism as we read. There's just no hope ...
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 14, 2018, 01:03:17 PM
 #9

для бayнти здecь нyжнa вepификaция? или eщe нe дyмaли нaд этим?

Here are some KYC details

Participants that did not purchase tokens and did not make deposits will not see any KYC form
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of less than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name and Date Of Birth. We will check these participants for AML compliance using 3rd party vendor.
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of higher than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name, Date of Birth and requirement to upload personal ID document
After the KYC documents are submitted, we will run through verification procedure and will communicate the results as soon as these are available. If you do not see any notification, it means your application is still in process and there is nothing to worry about.
Participants that did not pass KYC verification will get their contribution back after the completion of KYC procedure
This process will take at least 5 days and at most 4 weeks
The tokens will be locked till completion of KYC procedure for all participants.


Quote
BitClave's KYC procedure
Mark Shwartzman avatar
Written by Mark Shwartzman
Updated over a week ago
While regulations around Token Sales are different in every country, following the recommendation of our legal team, BitClave decided to perform KYC (Know Your Customer) procedure for Token Sale contributors.

This is done to reduce any chance of legal complications in future and to ensure smooth and successful development of the project. We strongly believe the above goals are fully inline with the expectations of our community and in the best interest of our community

BitClave uses third party services for ID screening. BitClave performed a detailed due diligence in selecting the vendors to guarantee smooth and safe process. Your information will be kept safe and secure and will be used only for KYC procedure

Here are some KYC details

Participants that did not purchase tokens and did not make deposits will not see any KYC form
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of less than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name and Date Of Birth. We will check these participants for AML compliance using 3rd party vendor.
Participants that made a purchase or deposit on amount of higher than $2,000 will see a form with First Name, Last Name, Date of Birth and requirement to upload personal ID document
After the KYC documents are submitted, we will run through verification procedure and will communicate the results as soon as these are available. If you do not see any notification, it means your application is still in process and there is nothing to worry about.
Participants that did not pass KYC verification will get their contribution back after the completion of KYC procedure
This process will take at least 5 days and at most 4 weeks
The tokens will be locked till completion of the KYC procedure for all participants.
Once the KYC procedure completed for all participants, we will notify you by email about the next steps.

Plagiarism:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030152.msg25437730#msg25437730
source: https://intercom.help/bitclave/english-articles/bitclaves-kyc-procedure

There is nothing wrong with this ban. I saw a lot of suspected plagiarism in your local thread. This is just one of them.
Reply to the person on the question of registering KYC, also translate for him. Sorry it's not plagiarism. 2017 year.
What is the reason? I think it's worth asking the moderators. Or on the forum you can not help and answer questions, to say the least to plagiarism? Why such a forum where everyone is silent in fear?
MagicSmoker
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 420
Merit: 182



View Profile
September 14, 2018, 01:41:35 PM
 #10

While I agree this is somewhat of a gray area, note that plagiarism occurs whenever you copy text from elsewhere without acknowledging the source. Also note that it would have taken less work to quote the post he got the text from - thereby automatically attributing the source - than it was to copy all of the text and present it as his own.

I, personally, wouldn't have reported this for plagiarism, but I also wouldn't argue with someone who did.

k0er
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1134
Merit: 1068



View Profile
September 14, 2018, 01:43:50 PM
 #11



Plagiarism:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030152.msg25437730#msg25437730
source: https://intercom.help/bitclave/english-articles/bitclaves-kyc-procedure

There is nothing wrong with this ban. I saw a lot of suspected plagiarism in your local thread. This is just one of them.


This is just a copy-paste of the rules KYC from BitClave Help Center to the russian bitClave ICO`s thread. How can a copy-paste of the rules of participation become plagiarism?
There's a bad google translation.That's all I see

YANDEX
xandry
Staff
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3444
Merit: 4046


Crypto Swap Exchange


View Profile WWW
September 14, 2018, 02:09:33 PM
Merited by TryNinja (1)
 #12

He copied someone else's posts:

Copy:
Гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe... в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe  Smiley



Original:
гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe...в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe



█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
e
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
█████████████
████████████▄███
██▐███████▄█████▀
█████████▄████▀
███▐████▄███▀
████▐██████▀
█████▀█████
███████████▄
████████████▄
██▄█████▀█████▄
▄█████████▀█████▀
███████████▀██▀
████▀█████████
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
c.h.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
▄██████▄▄▄
█████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███░░█████████
███▌▐█████████
█████████████
███████████▀
██████████▀
████████▀
▀██▀▀
Criptomen@ (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 18, 2018, 05:13:25 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2018, 06:26:57 PM by Criptomen@
 #13

He copied someone else's posts:

Copy:
Гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe... в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe  Smiley



Original:
гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe...в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe




Hi,

I want to clarify my situation.

The fact is that this post was made by other person, previous account holder, I understand that the sale/purchase of accounts is not welcome, but it is not forbidden, I ask to understand my situation and dispense with a warning. All posts after June 22 made by me, the person who violated the rules doesn't have access to this account.

I attach screenshots where there was a request to confirm the sale of the account on June 22, the same day I changed the account password. IP from which I started to log into the account i different too. Previous account holder was from Russia, i am from Spain (I'm sure it can all be checked and if needed i can proof it).

https://d.radikal.ru/d16/1809/60/5242117efa00.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d24/1809/f4/3f11d51f59a2.jpg
https://a.radikal.ru/a03/1809/83/66cf6ff40ec2.jpg


Since June 22 all posts have been written by me personally without  copy/paste, I always try to write on the topic of the issue that is being discussed.

I give you my word that I will never break the rules of the forum and ask you to change the ban account to a warning.

Thank you.

P.S. If you need any data to confirm certain operations, I am ready to give everything to the moderator in PM
DdmrDdmr
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2310
Merit: 10759


There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain


View Profile WWW
September 18, 2018, 05:28:44 PM
 #14

<…>
If you bought an account, then consider yourself scammed in a sense: you bought broken goods so to say. Yes, you got access to the account, and could use it for a while, but the account has history and it has spun back on you. That is a risk of trying to accelerate your rank here, through accounts you acquire.

Rules are applied here rather adamantly, with black or white decisions that cannot take into consideration all the grey areas in the process of decision-making. I have seen cero cases where a decision was reconsidered based on a promise not to do so and so. I guess your account was infected and withered.
Criptomen@ (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 18, 2018, 06:01:48 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2018, 06:21:47 PM by Criptomen@
 #15

<…>
If you bought an account, then consider yourself scammed in a sense: you bought broken goods so to say. Yes, you got access to the account, and could use it for a while, but the account has history and it has spun back on you. That is a risk of trying to accelerate your rank here, through accounts you acquire.

Rules are applied here rather adamantly, with black or white decisions that cannot take into consideration all the grey areas in the process of decision-making. I have seen cero cases where a decision was reconsidered based on a promise not to do so and so. I guess your account was infected and withered.


I bought an account from the owner. Not hacked one

Moderators bans a man who violated the rules and its forbidden to create a new account on the forum for him. I got a ban for something I didn't do and now I cant write on the forum
ihnattm1
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 18, 2018, 08:52:13 PM
 #16

He copied someone else's posts:
Ban, this is personal punishment. To buy an account and sell, is not prohibited by the rules. Even if a new script, could find plagiarism in old messages, you can not punish the not guilty. These are the rules.
Although the rules of this forum, they always work against users. I know by my example.
xtraelv
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1924


฿ear ride on the rainbow slide


View Profile
September 18, 2018, 11:18:28 PM
 #17


I bought an account from the owner. Not hacked one

Moderators bans a man who violated the rules and its forbidden to create a new account on the forum for him. I got a ban for something I didn't do and now I cant write on the forum

That is a novel excuse but it is not going to work.

Account sales are discouraged for a reason.

People who make multiple alt accounts and sell those accounts often plagiarize posts to increase their post count.

Buying accounts from account farmers contributes to the problem.

We are surrounded by legends on this forum. Phenomenal successes and catastrophic failures. Then there are the scams. This forum is a digital museum.  
* The most iconic historic bitcointalk threads.* Satoshi * Cypherpunks*MtGox*Bitcointalk hacks*pHiShInG* Silk Road*Pirateat40*Knightmb*Miner shams*Forum scandals*BBCode*
Troll spotting*Thank you to madnessteat for my custom avatar hat.
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 07:28:47 AM
 #18

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum. The account received the ban through the fault of the former owner who received $ 3000 for it. Why should the rules allow the trading of accounts, if not respected property rights? Who benefits from trading accounts on the forum?
Why do we need rules that do not work? It already looks like a fraud.
Who is punished with a ban?
LoyceV
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3304
Merit: 16616


Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021


View Profile WWW
September 19, 2018, 08:57:02 AM
 #19

Moderators bans a man who violated the rules and its forbidden to create a new account on the forum for him. I got a ban for something I didn't do and now I cant write on the forum
That's one of the risks of buying an account. You won't be unbanned.

athanz88
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 359


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
 #20

I bought an account from the owner. Not hacked one

Moderators bans a man who violated the rules and its forbidden to create a new account on the forum for him. I got a ban for something I didn't do and now I cant write on the forum

Probably the original owner already know that he is being reported for plagiarism and the account is on the risk of getting banned, and then he sold his account to you which is the best thing happened in the original owner's side, but unfortunately it is the worst thing happened to your side. You got scammed.

You will not get your account unbanned, even if you have all the valid data in your hand.
Vod
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3696
Merit: 3073


Licking my boob since 1970


View Profile WWW
September 19, 2018, 09:36:00 AM
 #21

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum.

He did violate the rules of the forum - by plagiarizing.

He was not banned for buying an account.

https://nastyscam.com - landing page up     https://vod.fan - advanced image hosting - coming soon!
OGNasty has early onset dementia; keep this in mind when discussing his past actions.
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 12:24:16 PM
 #22

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum.

He did violate the rules of the forum - by plagiarizing.

He was not banned for buying an account.
Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.
TryNinja
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2828
Merit: 6977



View Profile WWW
September 19, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
 #23

Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.
He accepted the risks when he bought the account.

.
.HUGE.
▄██████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄███████████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████▌██▌▐██▐██▐████▄███
████▐██▐████▌██▌██▌██▌██
█████▀███▀███▀▐██▐██▐█████

▀█████████████████████████▀

▀███████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████▀

▀██████████▀▀
█▀▀▀▀











█▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
CASINSPORTSBOOK
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀█











▄▄▄▄█
DdmrDdmr
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2310
Merit: 10759


There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain


View Profile WWW
September 19, 2018, 01:43:04 PM
 #24

<...>
Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.
Let’s put it this way: if I purchase a car from some random guy I may be an angel driving and looking after the car, always complying with regulations and keeping it bright and shiny. Nevertheless, the car and its previous owner may have a history that spins back on me even though I have nothing to do with it.
For example, the car might have been used as collateral in a loan, or simply be on the list of claims from the tax office for the previous owner’s debts. It can also have unforeseen internal pathologies that spring to life, or have been used to commit a crime and be required as proof by the authorities. 

These kind of risks come along with purchasing goods from another person, and in this case there is no way round but to accept the loss of the account.
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 02:06:27 PM
 #25

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.
k0er
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1134
Merit: 1068



View Profile
September 19, 2018, 02:21:58 PM
 #26

In the case of the car, you can still prove the fact of the violation of the law by the previous owner, and in the event of violation of the forum rules by the account - it doesn`t matter which of the account owners made it. Even if the purchase of this account occurred on the forum with transactions and full correspondence.

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

How should the forum regulate the purchase / sale of accounts? Why do you compare federal laws and punishments with forum rules ?? Are you in the right mind?

YANDEX
athanz88
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 359


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 02:36:03 PM
Merited by TryNinja (1)
 #27

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.


You are not in your right mind clearly. Let me get this straight to you because Ddmr's way on telling this with a car as an example is kinda has a loophole to counter. Buying and selling account is not moderated by the forum, so why the hell does forum should look into the matters that is not moderated by the forum? Maybe banning a scammer can be done in this case, but repairing a broken thing you bought is not forum's responsibility, instead you should complain to the seller who sold you that account.

When you buying a second-hand car from others and you find the car won't start in the next day, do you complain to the car dealer or the person who sold you that car?
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 02:43:35 PM
 #28

In the case of the car, you can still prove the fact of the violation of the law by the previous owner, and in the event of violation of the forum rules by the account - it doesn`t matter which of the account owners made it. Even if the purchase of this account occurred on the forum with transactions and full correspondence.

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.

How should the forum regulate the purchase / sale of accounts? Why do you compare federal laws and punishments with forum rules ?? Are you in the right mind?

How to regulate the purchase or sale, I do not know, but you need to punish the guilty! This rule should not have shades. What is the use of punishing the obedient at the forum?
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 02:46:01 PM
 #29

Why do we need forum rules, if you can always come up with new ones? Are you friends in your mind? There are clear rules, ban it for the culprit! Ban in this context, this aiding in fraud! Friends, I thought we had a forum here, not a fraudulent club!
You can not kill the real owner of the car, for the sins of the previous owner! Killing the real owner, you become the same criminal, the law in this respect works for all equally.


You are not in your right mind clearly. Let me get this straight to you because Ddmr's way on telling this with a car as an example is kinda has a loophole to counter. Buying and selling account is not moderated by the forum, so why the hell does forum should look into the matters that is not moderated by the forum? Maybe banning a scammer can be done in this case, but repairing a broken thing you bought is not forum's responsibility, instead you should complain to the seller who sold you that account.

When you buying a second-hand car from others and you find the car won't start in the next day, do you complain to the car dealer or the person who sold you that car?
The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?
k0er
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1134
Merit: 1068



View Profile
September 19, 2018, 03:08:39 PM
 #30

The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?


He copied someone else's posts:

Copy:
Гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe... в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe  Smiley



Original:
гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe...в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe



YANDEX
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 03:16:48 PM
Last edit: September 19, 2018, 03:27:34 PM by leshak
 #31

The forum does not prohibit the sale and purchase. What rule did the account owner violate?


He copied someone else's posts:

Copy:
Гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe... в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe  Smiley



Original:
гopмoн мoлoдocти, кoтopый oтвeчaeт зa oмoлoжeниe клeтoк, выpaбaтывaeтcя , тoлькo c 22 дo 2-3 нoчи, вo cнe...в ocтaльнoe вpeмя нe выpaбaтывaeтcя, вoт и дyмaйтe


Always Ban a person, not an account! It is for this reason, the opening of a new account, is considered an evasion. The owner of the account, did not write this post. Do you know the rules of the forum?
Rule 23. It says: forum moderators, can always interpret the situation based on their own considerations. You can not blame them, they have a lot of work, and there is no way to sort things out. They have the right to do so. Guilty or not guilty! Now they have complete information of what happened. Thank you for your time and participation, friends. Criptomen is my brother, from here worry.
vlom
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1498
Merit: 1117


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
 #32

awakening is difficult. after you realize that you have done something wrong.
why the hell did you buy an account?
Criptomen@ (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 19, 2018, 07:26:46 PM
 #33

awakening is difficult. after you realize that you have done something wrong.
why the hell did you buy an account?


Well, I was told that this is a very good investment. With time I will be able to return the invested funds in parallel using the forum to help and have help from the same people as me. People who are interested in cryptocurrency. Before buying, I inspected his messages on the forum, didn't see anything suspicious, everything looked normal. All posts are loosely made from the head, not a single copied article etc. Moreover, the account is functioning, not in the ban. I bought an account, used it for 2 months and got a ban for something I did not even know about. I'm not saying that I'm a saint, I ask you not to ban an account, give me a warning for a week or two or months, as the moderator decides. I'm not the person who broke the rules, I am really trying to stick to the rules. I don't understand at all how much you must to be stupid for copying someone else's post with the same mistakes and put it out for your thoughts ... Especially the account is not a Newbie.

I'm just asking not to punish so seriously.
Xal0lex
Staff
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2450
Merit: 2446



View Profile WWW
September 19, 2018, 10:33:53 PM
Last edit: September 19, 2018, 10:45:58 PM by Xal0lex
 #34

All posts after June 22 made by me...

Your post, which was written on July 10.

Copy:
Bitcoin is the first decentralized payment network that operates only due of its users, without centralized management or intermediaries. It is the lack of centralized control over the processes - the main reason why governments are afraid of crypto-currency.

Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities.

Bitcoin doesn't allow to do it all, so they are dissatisfied

Original:
Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities. But all this control is lost when non-governmental organizations devise their currency.

Control over the currency has many different hidden currents, especially in the framework of the fiscal policy of the country, the business environment, and, of course, crime control.

Any more questions? IMO, the problem is solved.

█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
e
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
█████████████
████████████▄███
██▐███████▄█████▀
█████████▄████▀
███▐████▄███▀
████▐██████▀
█████▀█████
███████████▄
████████████▄
██▄█████▀█████▄
▄█████████▀█████▀
███████████▀██▀
████▀█████████
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
c.h.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
▄██████▄▄▄
█████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███░░█████████
███▌▐█████████
█████████████
███████████▀
██████████▀
████████▀
▀██▀▀
Criptomen@ (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 20, 2018, 12:18:56 AM
 #35

Any more questions? IMO, the problem is solved.


I read it in the news and translated it into English by Google, after reading the result, I saw that everything was fine and left the translation

The original news in Russian lang can find by Google

https://image.ibb.co/cNNrBe/12333.jpg

and here u can see translation by Google

https://image.ibb.co/bVbexK/4566.jpg

I didn't even imagine that among the thousands of messages someone did exactly as I did
TryNinja
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2828
Merit: 6977



View Profile WWW
September 20, 2018, 12:48:40 AM
 #36

~
So, instead of plagiarising from a different user, you plagiarized from another website and Google translated it (maybe to hide)? Nothing changed - it's still plagiarism.

The ban is deserved.

.
.HUGE.
▄██████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄███████████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████▌██▌▐██▐██▐████▄███
████▐██▐████▌██▌██▌██▌██
█████▀███▀███▀▐██▐██▐█████

▀█████████████████████████▀

▀███████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████████▀

▀█████████████████▀

▀██████████▀▀
█▀▀▀▀











█▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.
CASINSPORTSBOOK
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀█











▄▄▄▄█
athanz88
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 359


View Profile
September 20, 2018, 03:52:04 AM
 #37

The finding from xal0lex can be considered as plagiarism too because you did not mention any source on that post. You are in bad luck man, now you do not have any reasons to counter this one. I am not bashing you, but that is the rules of the forum, plagiarism is like a high level crime in here, in fact, plagiarism is a serious crime even in real world and can lead to bad results in your life.

And remember 1 thing before you make an investment. If it is too good to be true, then it is mostly a scam.
leshak
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 65
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 20, 2018, 10:19:51 AM
 #38

All posts after June 22 made by me...

Your post, which was written on July 10.

Copy:
Bitcoin is the first decentralized payment network that operates only due of its users, without centralized management or intermediaries. It is the lack of centralized control over the processes - the main reason why governments are afraid of crypto-currency.

Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities.

Bitcoin doesn't allow to do it all, so they are dissatisfied

Original:
Governments control the Fiat currencies. They use central banks to manage money holdings, using so-called monetary policy. They also determine how remittances need to be implemented, which allows them to monitor the movement of the currency, and also dictate who benefits from this movement, collect taxes from it, and track criminal activities. But all this control is lost when non-governmental organizations devise their currency.

Control over the currency has many different hidden currents, especially in the framework of the fiscal policy of the country, the business environment, and, of course, crime control.

Any more questions? IMO, the problem is solved.
The topic can be closed. The question is settled. Thanks to all.
Johnnygroomq
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 35
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 25, 2018, 03:01:52 PM
 #39

What we have? The guy bought an account. Has not violated any rules of the forum.

He did violate the rules of the forum - by plagiarizing.

He was not banned for buying an account.
Apparently you have not carefully read. User account, has not violated any rules. Previous owner, guilty of plagiarism. Plagiarism was discovered after the sale of the account. Sorry, but there is clearly no understanding of the situation.
If in fact, he bought already means his account, it means you had to look in advance whether there is a problem on that account or not.and not give money, not knowing what with this account.
Pages: 1 2 [All]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!