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May 29, 2019, 05:54:59 AM
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The posts should be objectively good, and have a decent amount of effort put into them.

If you know someone from another place, don’t have any relationship that might be perceived as a conflict of interest, such as a family, romantic, close personal, business or financial relationship, I don’t see any issues with giving merit.

If you have any of the above types of relationships, I would generally avoid giving merit yourself, especially to family members, romantic partners and those you have a close personal relationship with (such as a roommate). For other relationships described above I would generally shy away from giving merit to these people, but if you do, I would hold these people to a higher standard. 

I don’t see an issue with reporting any of the above posts to others and others can make their own judgment on if a post deserves merit.

Well, when you talk about business relationships it gets kinda murky.
We do upvote each other posts on Steemit, so that could possibly be construed as a business relationship.

I would consider a business relationship someone you either trade with on a regular basis, have an employee/employer relationship, or run a business with. A business relationship is one that either generates income for you, or provides you access to liquidity and/or capital. The extent of how much of your income you rely on this person for also matters, for example if you make $200 a month from your relationship with the person when you make several thousand dollars per month, your relationship might not be a huge conflict of interest, while a relationship that generates substantially all of your income would be a more clear conflict of interest.

If you give a couple of merit her and there to someone you are in business with, while giving 95%+ of the merit you send every month to others, it would probably not be a big deal, while giving a larger percentage, or a majority of the merit you send every month to someone you are in a business relationship with is probably not making a good use of the merit system, in my view.

If the extent of your relationship with the person is you follow eachothers blog, and you chat for a few hours a week, (and you upvote eachothers blogs, which would result in very little money for each of you), I don't have any concerns about you sending merit to the person, myself.
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May 29, 2019, 11:53:11 AM
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Interesting discussion, I think that it would be better for him if I didn't intervene in the future.
I mean, if I were in his situation, I'd feel happier if I'd earned all merit by myself, without the intervention of a friend. It kinda devalues the achievement in the end.

Slightly off topic, but just a bit:
This reminds me of a scenario that unfolded several months ago where a wife was pissed at her husband because he would not give her merit so she could rank up to Jr.  I think it was right after de-rank-gate.  The way that husband handled the situation is commendable, although he may have had to spend a few nights on the couch.

That's actually a great story, I'm 100% sure he wouldn't be pissed at me. Heck, we wouldn't be friends otherwise Cheesy

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May 30, 2019, 10:45:45 AM
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It's okay lol!

It's human nature to prefer someone you know or have made connection to. It's normal!

As long as the bias doesn't turn into exclusiveness or loyalty, it's fine!

Look at the positive side, you made him join as you know he will be a valuable member, so meriting his quality posts would only encourage him contributing more to the site Wink

Also, few merits are never equal to a true friend. Give or not give, doesn't matter Wink

Chill Smiley
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June 07, 2019, 10:20:29 AM
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Now i laugh so hard to see all the big accounts in here given an example of what a post may look like to attract sMerit, at least @op was sensible enough not to give a huge lump of sMerit to his friend unlike the below senseless post that was given a whooping 13 sMerit for shit posting,



Can someone tell me why this meaningless, uneducative shit post could attract so much sMerit than some really good post i have seen in this forum which have only manage to receive not higher than 2 sMerit ? or is it because he made the post in the much hated Yobit thread that makes it okey?

This sMerit was given by a Legendary member, which am guessing is either an Alts account of his or just like OP a very good friend of his Tongue   This is a clear example of merit abuse,
 
In my few weeks of been in this forum, i think i have made some reasonable post than this account Grin but since i don't belong to any gang, never save the forum from sinking Grin or not a friend of any Big Guy here, i don't deserve to earn 13 sMerit for my post Tongue

@OP don't worry about your few post to your friend, compare to the above Santa, you are very considerate and reasonable, am sure the merit you gave was worth the post.

Here is an example of a good post but with just 2 sMerit:-



Here you can find post and tell me if it worth 13 sMerit - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133670.msg50718411#msg50718411
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June 07, 2019, 02:36:28 PM
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Can someone tell me why this meaningless, uneducative shit post could attract so much sMerit than some really good post i have seen in this forum which have only manage to receive not higher than 2 sMerit ?
You may see it as a shit post but those who merited it probably agrees to what the poster is saying (or at least the poster said what they wanted to say).

That "merit worthy" is subjective imo. There are no specific standards. What's unworthy to me might be worthy for you or vice versa. We can use the post you are referring to as an example.



To the OP, I do not see any issue meriting someone I know as long as I find the post useful/informative to me or to others.
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June 08, 2019, 03:57:29 PM
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Can someone tell me why this meaningless, uneducative shit post could attract so much sMerit than some really good post i have seen in this forum which have only manage to receive not higher than 2 sMerit ?
You may see it as a shit post but those who merited it probably agrees to what the poster is saying (or at least the poster said what they wanted to say).

That "merit worthy" is subjective imo. There are no specific standards. What's unworthy to me might be worthy for you or vice versa. We can use the post you are referring to as an example.



To the OP, I do not see any issue meriting someone I know as long as I find the post useful/informative to me or to others.

Am not surprised, anyone who find that post worthy enough to give 13 merit is clearly showing favouritism, no matter how hard anyone try to defend it that post is not worthy of such amount of merit, how can you tell there is no personal sentiment attach it?
Most of the rules in here only applies to some certain class of people while the other class can do as they please Undecided
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June 08, 2019, 05:20:02 PM
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Am not surprised, anyone who find that post worthy enough to give 13 merit is clearly showing favouritism,

You should understand, most higher ranked users don't actively participate in the meriting of post but when they do, they might just decide to offload their smerits on any worthy post they see not minding the amount they send. That post was (before it go ruined) a quality post and I'll explain below

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Can someone tell me why this meaningless, uneducative shit post could attract so much sMerit

Before the post got edited by @cabalism, adding the other sentences that weren't necessary, he did summary what was actually going on, on the thread and pass on a clear message that was understandable
This is more likely a discussion with spammers and endless shitposts, and I think it should be moved to altcoin discussion. This is going nowhere, the fact Yobit is not responding to scam accusations and concerns.

The whole yobit discussion wasn't a productive one to the forum as no sign of improvement was observe, it was just giving the signature more publicity instead of actually solving the problem until theymos stepped in and I'm sure most of the merits came before he edited the post.

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June 08, 2019, 11:47:08 PM
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Am not surprised, anyone who find that post worthy enough to give 13 merit is clearly showing favouritism, no matter how hard anyone try to defend it that post is not worthy of such amount of merit, how can you tell there is no personal sentiment attach it?
Most of the rules in here only applies to some certain class of people while the other class can do as they please Undecided
Well, am not also surprised on someone whose crying 'bout my posts getting Merited. You might cry even harder for I'm a Source now. Tongue

Just to tell you one thing, chewing shits aren't my thing, though I just spit on them and try to cover them with sand and throw them somewhere else. So the other's won't being seeing shits as I did.

And as an additional, FYI, even if you dig a whole lot of evidence, you really can't prove what alts you're saying that I have probably used. By the fact that I also don't know who's that user and getting vanished after a day.

It's been a while since you've posted here pajeet, have you gotten full of trash on your main account?

@CryptopreneurBrainboss Thanks for tagging me here, and for giving such clear detailed info as always. But still I don't think such pajeets will try to understand that. Just hoping that they will 😁


Edit 1: Hey Pajeet, don't waste finding my alts. I will just show it all to you. And the accounts that is somehow connected to me as for it is owned by my relatives.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg49561523#msg49561523

Just a little Message for you if you're about to see it:
"Read till your eyes bleed"

(Pardon me, @suchmoon for using your phrase)

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June 09, 2019, 05:37:26 AM
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Am not surprised, anyone who find that post worthy enough to give 13 merit is clearly showing favouritism, no matter how hard anyone try to defend it that post is not worthy of such amount of merit, how can you tell there is no personal sentiment attach it?
Most of the rules in here only applies to some certain class of people while the other class can do as they please Undecided
Well, am not also surprised on someone whose crying 'bout my posts getting Merited. You might cry even harder for I'm a Source now. Tongue

Just to tell you one thing, chewing shits aren't my thing, though I just spit on them and try to cover them with sand and throw them somewhere else. So the other's won't being seeing shits as I did.

And as an additional, FYI, even if you dig a whole lot of evidence, you really can't prove what alts you're saying that I have probably used. By the fact that I also don't know who's that user and getting vanished after a day.

It's been a while since you've posted here pajeet, have you gotten full of trash on your main account?

@CryptopreneurBrainboss Thanks for tagging me here, and for giving such clear detailed info as always. But still I don't think such pajeets will try to understand that. Just hoping that they will 😁


Edit 1: Hey Pajeet, don't waste finding my alts. I will just show it all to you. And the accounts that is somehow connected to me as for it is owned by my relatives.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg49561523#msg49561523

Just a little Message for you if you're about to see it:
"Read till your eyes bleed"

(Pardon me, @suchmoon for using your phrase)



Yelp i wanted to prove a point (to myself atleast Grin) that this merit system is full of favouritism and i just did, your other meaningless and senseless post don't mean anything to me Tongue.
Merit given in this forum is not base on anything else but favoritism

Bye Cool
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June 09, 2019, 05:55:48 AM
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Yelp i wanted to prove a point (to myself atleast Grin) that this merit system is full of favouritism and i just did, your other meaningless and senseless post don't mean anything to me Tongue.
Merit given in this forum is not base on anything else but favoritism

Bye Cool

So, if I give you Merits for crying, will you still say that one of my favorites is you? 😂 Silly. Merits are meant to give to posts that has enough quality to be informative and also to some posts that seems to be agreeable to other users. Even if its just a troll it can have exemptions. So stop crying mate, we are working on our asses to award users whose effort is indeed worthy of Merits.
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June 10, 2019, 02:47:40 AM
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Should be okay as long as it's within limits. 'Meriting friends' system seems to be very famous in some regional sub-sections.

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