Balthazar's trust

[KOPHEP]

Balthasar is a victim. He has been injured most of all at that story. He is not hiding and proved to all russian locale that he is honest man which has been slandered by "Red Admin" supporters

Cryptodevil, please be merciful, take off or replace your feedback to neutral

All russian locale asks for him. Balthazar is a man of the word. Cryptodevil, please, forgive him. We will never forget your mercy

[hacker1001101001]

@Cryptodevil, it seems logical to me to look at a person who is involved with some old scamy exchange at any official position for long time, points towards him being friendly and involved with the main authorities somehow. Some of the evidences like Novacoin being listed immediately makes the sentence more stronger and titled towards the exchange authorities engagement accusations.

But as @Balthazar said here,

From the administration point of view, moderators and consultants were ordinary members just like others. The only difference is that they were able to communicate with admin in jabber, delete chat messages and ban users. Nobody got any kind of reward for that, as far I know.

He was just an active community member at first and later became moderator as other active members of the community and continued without any rewards. This nowhere makes Balthazar shady or untrustworthy to trade with as even if he choosed wrong peoples to work with he still does right things at a right time. His weight of his good deeds and knowledge here are very much weighty than him just working with an exchange, even as someone just like pseudo-official.

At last it comes to personal judgment while painting trusts, but someone who is in DT should atleast have some solid base to his accusation, rather than saying there is no evidence against his claim hence he is right.

[cryptodevil]

The problem I have with this statement is that there is no evidence to support the claim that Balthazar did not help to create the exchange...

Like I have said two years before, the problem I have with this statement is that there is no evidence to support the claim that cryptodevil did not rape children.
That would be the same "higly-likely" story which is full of "would be"'s.  Presumption of innocence or factual evidence? No, never heard of.  #cryptodevil #metoo.

There is every reason to believe that, while BTC-e may not have been your brainchild, you were very much connected to it on multiple levels. Whereas your puerile attempt to dismiss such by way of false equivalence lacks both evidence and reasoning.

1. Your mining pool's launch and BTC-e's launch occur within a couple of weeks of each other, along with your mining pool being an official partner of BTC-e
2. You already admitted that you provided technical consultanting to BTC-e
3. You asserted in this article that the founder of BTC-e, Alexey, was your friend
4. You were a moderator at BTC-e
5. You launched your own PoW/PoS coin, heavily instamined it and had it listed at BTC-e within days on an exchange which was known to be particularly difficult to get coins listed on

...every reason to believe that he was, indeed, technically involved with it from its inception in 2011

[Balthazar]

I'm unanonymous person which is still not in jail. Every of your words clashes with that simple truth. It's a kind of "ridiculous!" spell from Harry Potter universe, which results with turning you from cryptodevil into cryptoclown.

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[tenecheck]

Today I was witness of "another drama in ru locale". Someone was complaining about Balthazars feedback. I was thinking: c'mon, man, who cares what some scammer says, why bother with his feedback? But then I recognized, Balthazar's feedbacks are trusted. WOW. I have soo many questions.

How is that possible that someone,
- who created scam project NOVACOIN,
- who created mining pools, which were scammed over and over again
- and who is closely related to BTC-E/WEX scam exchange

can be trusted and judge people?

Then I was searching for old topics with accusations of this user and I found this one... Well, I see nothing has changed in ru locale. New faces, same shit. But now scammers can paint people. Nice. Looks like something is wrong with this plus/minus system. Hey, check his trusted feedbacks: "a good coder"! Fuck me... "a good coder", ahaha ah. A good coder who failed so many times and did not take any responsibility. Well, maybe he is really good coder, he just knows when to take profit and start new project

Anyway, I have another last question to the people with all that great positive feedbacks KTChampions, Ratimov, lovesmayfamilis and also Veleor: do you realize who Balthazar is or what is going on here? This guy is one of those scammers, who made people spit if they hear about new project from some russian speaking team. And now he is great again and that is your responsibility. Sure, it is not like the friends of a scammer are scmamers also, but why do you support a scammer then?

[LoyceV]

How is that possible that someone,
~snip~

can be trusted and judge people?

Very simple: Balthazar is included and excluded by 2 DT1 members, which puts him at DT2 (0). One more exclusion (which could be because of changes in DT1, which is expected in a few days) and he's out:

Trust list for: Balthazar (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (260 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h)
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Balthazar's judgement is Trusted by:
1. A-Bolt (Trust: neutral) (354 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. fsb4000 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Foxcool (Trust: neutral) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. peloso (Trust: +3 / =2 / -3) (DT1 (-5) 130 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Yaremi (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (58 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Removed Zuzma (Trust: neutral) (101 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (601 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. witcher_sense (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (1109 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 1084 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. DabLjat (Trust: neutral) (69 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Ratimov (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 785 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. zasad@ (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (668 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Balthazar_home (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Balthazar's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (11) 166 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. fxpc (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (95 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEW kzv (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 656 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. be.open (Trust: +0 / =2 / -6) (327 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Sancho18 (Trust: +0 / =1 / -5) (110 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. sne.su (Trust: +0 / =2 / -6) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. fzkto (Trust: neutral) (179 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. F1ak (Trust: neutral) (97 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Sartrute (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. 3meek (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (189 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. MoxnatyShmel (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. stoos (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (36 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. NEW Kingf1sher (Trust: neutral) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. The0ldl_lser (Trust: neutral) (161 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

(the links to "Trust list" in my quote above don't work yet, this is a sneak preview of today's Trust list viewer update. The links will work in an hour) Done

[KTChampions]

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Anyway, I have another last question to the people with all that great positive feedbacks KTChampions, Ratimov, lovesmayfamilis and also Veleor: do you realize who Balthazar is or what is going on here? This guy is one of those scammers, who made people spit if they hear about new project from some russian speaking team. And now he is great again and that is your responsibility. Sure, it is not like the friends of a scammer are scmamers also, but why do you support a scammer then?

If you assume that your position has at least something to do with truth and reality, then why are you hiding your face? Why did you create alt? It seems to me that you perfectly understand the absurdity of your accusations, therefore you cannot express them from the main account 

[tenecheck]

Very simple: Balthazar is included and excluded by 2 DT1 members, which puts him at DT2 (0). One more exclusion (which could be because of changes in DT1, which is expected in a few days) and he's out:

Balthazar is trusted by people with more weight, I see almost big green pluses. The users who distrust him on the other hand are almost all with minuses. It looks like that are two separate sides because many of them distrust also each other. Nice system... It can clean scammers and produce trust wars. Well, it is based on people, so what can we expect. Anyway I do not want to discuss the trust system. I just have doubts that someone is going to exclude him because he has so great support of weighted users. And if someone does it, he should have enough balls to ignore exclusion of his support.


Fun fact about Balthazar:

Balthazar's judgement is Trusted by:
12. Balthazar_home (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

If you assume that your position has at least something to do with truth and reality, then why are you hiding your face? Why did you create alt? It seems to me that you perfectly understand the absurdity of your accusations, therefore you cannot express them from the main account 

So, in other words, my accusations are absurd because "I created alt". Nice argument. Very logical. Scammers love that kind of stuff: changing topics, throlling. I remember too good, when some shit was happening around Balthazar or btce everything around was full of throlls. Yeah, something never changes. At least now is clear with you and with other ignorant users, who is who and what is happening.
Last thing. I do not assume anything. Everything is based on public and well known facts.

[Virsec]

Balthazar - IS SCAM.

He is hired by Alexey Biluchenko (Admin of WEX.NZ) to scale that scamish platform

[nutildah]

Balthazar - IS SCAM.

Hi korner -- how can a person be a scam? Are they an android pretending to be a person? I've always wondered what you meant by that.

[KTChampions]

If you assume that your position has at least something to do with truth and reality, then why are you hiding your face? Why did you create alt? It seems to me that you perfectly understand the absurdity of your accusations, therefore you cannot express them from the main account 

So, in other words, my accusations are absurd because "I created alt". Nice argument. Very logical. Scammers love that kind of stuff: changing topics, throlling. I remember too good, when some shit was happening around Balthazar or btce everything around was full of throlls. Yeah, something never changes. At least now is clear with you and with other ignorant users, who is who and what is happening.
Last thing. I do not assume anything. Everything is based on public and well known facts.

Yes, that’s pretty logical - why don’t you write from your main account? Apparently Balthazar has a complaint to you (in form of feedback) that you cannot dispute, so you are trying to "wholly" challenge his right to leave trusted reviews. I'm not trying to troll or hurt you, but your behavior looks exactly like that from the side.

Balthazar - IS SCAM.

Hi korner -- how can a person be a scam? Are they an android pretending to be a person? I've always wondered what you meant by that.

Ouch! Why are you writing to him? Do you really not know his ability to produce spam in huge quantities? 

[Virsec]

KTChampions - fraudster

[Balthazar]

Lol. I see that nothing changes in this world and my very existence is still like a magnet for the mentally ill people.  

[tenecheck]

Your existence is like a magnet for scam.

I just want to refresh the memory of the users who are longer on this forum and in crypto world. For trusted newbies could be also interesting a little excourse to the past. Here on the forum itself are many topics with scam accusations or with his scammed projects. Let's walk trough some of them:

1) rucoin - not premined shit. Scam from the beginning. What was the main pool? Balthazar's pool. Where it was traded? btc-e. Is there a relation? Rhetorical question.
2) ltcmine - Balthazar's scammed ltc pool. Many people never got their money, topic is closed. Check the source - there is another relation to btc-e and an interesting link (there are actually A LOT of topics like this) to scam accusation of Balthazar or and btc-e.
3) novacoin - not premined scam created this time by Balthazar itself and traded on btc-e (surprise, mf!)

As you can see, I kept the chronological order: from one scam to another. Many people lost a lot of money, but Balthazar is still trusted. Now even more than earlier because of new trust system. Many times I wondered how he always could spit on the community and got new sheeps for his new scam projects. Maybe because of great support of his throll/friend team and btc-e, which was more or less trusted and covered him. But the times of btc-e are passed, everyone knows now it was just big scam, throll team has changed and is tiny now. And you, guys have the opportunity to finish Balthasar's scam walk, before it is too late another time. If you check his signature, you will see, he has another "project" running and it is qwestion of time until the things going to repeat. And if you check this, you will find out that they try to relaunch nova... Balthazar enjoys throlling, he throlls the community for very long time, maybe it is time finally to stop him? Someone who has power here, do not forget that you have also responsibility to protect new users. That is why our trust system was initially made for. I do not want to be the one who will say, I told you.