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June 01, 2024, 02:11:42 PM
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We still don't understand some players, they complaint because all online casinos ask them for KYC to withdraw, we launch a 100% no KYC casino with the only rule of no multiple accounts, and they cry when they get caught with another account

The rules are clear if we found someone with multiple accounts we are going to seize the funds, for this player we found a second account, but he could have a third one since we don't do KYC when we found someone with another account the decision is final.


Sorry but next time read the rules
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June 01, 2024, 02:25:32 PM
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We still don't understand some players, they complaint because all online casinos ask them for KYC to withdraw, we launch a 100% no KYC casino with the only rule of no multiple accounts, and they cry when they get caught with another account

The rules are clear if we found someone with multiple accounts we are going to seize the funds, for this player we found a second account, but he could have a third one since we don't do KYC when we found someone with another account the decision is final.


Sorry but next time read the rules

You don´t make a lot of sense - how does your "No KYC" policy relate in the first place? The dude closed his account a while ago. The account doesn`t exist anymore. Then he decides to come back. Do you have a rule anywhere that people are not allowed to come back after having their accounts closed? Even if you do... read further:

Ultimately, you wouldn`t have cared at all if the player had lost - you know it. Smiley

Even if you are within your rights based on your ToS, it doesn´t mean that what you have done is fair and the right thing to do ethically.

I can only hope that people stay away from pathetic crypto casinos such as yours where owners publically prove how hypocritical they are. Seriously guys, we people in the gambling industry (I am talking operators, affiliates, and even game providers, etc.), couldn`t be more grateful to be in an industry where we can only win if done properly - there is no point in tricking players because of greed.

Oh, and before you come up with any accusation such as "you only see the player's perspectives ": No, I don`t - I have lost count of how many times I concluded that players were in the wrong, I am not generally taking the players`side.

Edit: Your "Next time read the rules" is hilarious - I consider adding you to our blacklist because of your lame attitude alone.

Edit 2: I saw that you weren`t even getting that a Costa Rican gambling license does not exist - this goes to show a lot.

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June 01, 2024, 03:17:17 PM
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he could have a third one since we don't do KYC

 

lol.. and I could be Satoshi since YOU DON'T DO KYC.
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June 01, 2024, 03:26:29 PM
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Everything we know about this case
1. Multiaccounts are prohibited by the rules of the casino and it is impossible to argue with this.
2. Apart from the screenshot with the last line "Disable my account", we don't know anything.
3. Most casinos do not allow you to create an account even if the old one was blocked (personal experience)

From which we can conclude that the casino is not to blame, if I were a player, I would take the deposit and not continue this nonsense, because most likely you will not receive your 26k euros.

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June 01, 2024, 04:09:29 PM
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It's completely unrelated. Hacksaw Gaming is a game developer, not a license provider in the sense of regulatory body.

The "license" said and referred by Fixefelix is a license to integrate Hacksaw Gaming's game into their platform, i.e. an agreement and binding terms that has to be fulfilled by the platforms and players in order to play those games on the said platform.


Hacksaw gaming is all over the place in many jurisdictions. Depending on the laws of the jurisdiction they have a gambling license or gaming supplier license. That’s not needed in Costa Rica but a business license is required. I’m much more familiar with sportsbooks than casinos but I assume that the license for a supplier works in a similar fashion as casinos in Costa Rica.

And the question here was whether betcrypto has a "permission" to integrate hackshaw's games into their platform, and clearly not about Hackshaw's own license in CR like you now explained above, so what's the point you're trying to convey?

I'm not sure the relevance of whether it's pirated or not. The player is owed money and should be paid. Run as far away as you can from this casino.

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June 01, 2024, 04:10:44 PM
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We still don't understand some players, they complaint because all online casinos ask them for KYC to withdraw, we launch a 100% no KYC casino with the only rule of no multiple accounts, and they cry when they get caught with another account

The rules are clear if we found someone with multiple accounts we are going to seize the funds, for this player we found a second account, but he could have a third one since we don't do KYC when we found someone with another account the decision is final.


Sorry but next time read the rules

You don´t make a lot of sense - how does your "No KYC" policy relate in the first place? The dude closed his account a while ago. The account doesn`t exist anymore. Then he decides to come back. Do you have a rule anywhere that people are not allowed to come back after having their accounts closed? Even if you do... read further:

Ultimately, you wouldn`t have cared at all if the player had lost - you know it. Smiley

Even if you are within your rights based on your ToS, it doesn´t mean that what you have done is fair and the right thing to do ethically.

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I previously tried to argue that to the casino.

Technically speaking, there is no rule being breached as the OP does not have multiple account. He made one, asked for it to be closed, not even asking for self-exclusion [so betcrypto clearly can't counter-argue with gamble aware regulation], and opened a new one much later. There is no malicious intent on OP's overall behavior, nothing is detrimental to the casino, other than the fact that he won fair and square, no harm made.

Their reply for this matter is as follows:

We are sorry but not exceptions.

Also with his second account he deposited around 7,000 EUROS and withdrew 9,000 euros before our system detected that it was a second account.

Once again we are sorry but the multiple account rule is the most important rule for us.



I'm not sure the relevance of whether it's pirated or not. The player is owed money and should be paid. Run as far away as you can from this casino.

That, I can agree.

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June 02, 2024, 06:11:25 AM
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To be fair. I wouldn´t deposit a cent to such a casino. Op should be happy that he got his deposits returned.
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