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August 18, 2014, 03:22:55 AM
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If a person loads .22 cal snake shot in the chamber, puts the barrel against their skull, then pulls the trigger, it will likely be a fatal wound.

Guns are designed to fire projectiles of a certain caliber. Those projectiles carry the potential energy to cause damage consistent with at least the minimum requirements to be considered lethal force.

Jon-Erik Hexum died in 1984 as a result of an accidental self-inflicted blank cartridge gunshot wound to the head.

But blanks don't count anyways and aren't even in the same category as far as I'm concerned...

I'm not aware of any non-lethal caliber...

Every gun should be treated as a lethal weapon. Carelessness or disregard for that fact is one of the biggest reasons people are accidentally killed with guns.

What gives you this idea that a gun fired from human hands results in a random trajectory? Have you ever even shot a gun before? Hold your right arm straight out in front of you with your thumb raised up and close your left eye; if you can't hit a target within the space occupied by your thumb nail within 100 yards (hand gun or .22LR) or 500 yards (center fire rifle) then you need to spend more time on the range before you should trust yourself to be judicious with your aim in a bad situation. It doesn't take very long to become proficient for somebody without a learning disability or hand-eye coordination problem...

People tend to lose accuracy when rushed with adrenaline, but not to the extent that you're claiming. Firing a gun in a random trajectory sounds pretty irresponsible to me...

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August 18, 2014, 04:27:14 AM
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100 yards (when the effective maximum 2-hand hold range for the average pistolier is 50m/54.68yd)? Jesus H CHRIST.

I treat all guns as if they are always loaded, whether their wounds are "all" lethal or not.

Now it's clear from your posting history that you're either full of shit, or you're an operator expecting everyone to be as proficient a shooter as you. Welcome to my ignore list, Pete. I hope you won't hold it against me when we're in the foxhole. Oh, who am I kidding, you'll be in a sniper's nest taking out targets from 1.55 miles (a tenth of a mile over the world record) away...


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August 18, 2014, 06:45:29 AM
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100 yards (when the effective maximum 2-hand hold range for the average pistolier is 50m/54.68yd)? Jesus H CHRIST.

I treat all guns as if they are always loaded, whether their wounds are "all" lethal or not.

Now it's clear from your posting history that you're either full of shit, or you're an operator expecting everyone to be as proficient a shooter as you. Welcome to my ignore list, Pete. I hope you won't hold it against me when we're in the foxhole. Oh, who am I kidding, you'll be in a sniper's nest taking out targets from 1.55 miles (a tenth of a mile over the world record) away...



What an idiot... The relative area covered by your thumbnail increases as the distance to your target is increased, it's called trig... You can pretend that a pistol round won't reach out 100 yards but you sound like an idiot to anybody who actually knows anything or has any real experience. I've been shooting since I was 7 years old and it's a passion of mine. I can tell you from plenty of experience that a thumbnail sized target window is the same difficulty at 100 yards as it is at 50 yards and also happens to be roughly the same apparent size as a human torso at 25 yards. Basically if you can hit a human sized target at 25 yards, you can hit a target the size of a garage door at 100 yards. Either way, it's far from a random trajectory.

Who said all wounds are lethal? You're like an immature child crying about getting chocolate ice-cream when you only wanted vanilla. You're making things up that nobody said and using them as if they were spoken previously.

If you can't put a bullet in a target the size of a garage door at 100 yards then nobody would want you in a foxhole next to them. You should probably just carry a knife...

I'm happy to be on your ignore list, you're a stubborn ass who can't even conceptualize how even large objects appear smaller as they get further away, and who thinks that guns fire in random trajectories unless fired by robots, oh and they only hit targets less than 100 yards away unless they came out of a sniper rifle. Good riddance...

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