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March 24, 2015, 12:22:35 PM |
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I wonder if the US government can prosecute users of shadow simply based on the fact that the client is used for buying illegal drugs. Think about this for a second. If this market place is truly decentralized then the entire contents are hosted on individual's computers via the blockchain. That means that both orders and merchandise and all transactions are on shadow's users hard drives. Maybe the US or other nations will simply bust you for enabling the "drug network" by running your client (node). Since without you or anyone else participating the marketplace is essentially dead.
I think they can prove this in court as well. If the marketplace is used primarily for illegal things then why else would you be running it?
I know what your going to say, why don't the powers that be bust TOR users. Well, Tor can be used for many different reasons. A decentralized silk road is used for only one purpose. Especially when you have an anonymous currency tied to it. I don't think they will have a problem convincing a judge either. Better hope that your IP is obfuscated each time you load that client.
I was investigating the market yesterday and I don't see it referred to as a decentralized silk road anywhere official. As far as I can tell it's just a decentralized marketplace and so like Tor could be used for many different purposes. This is correct, thats sort of an unofficial name that people have tagged onto it. Officially its just a decentralized marketplace.
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March 24, 2015, 03:38:31 PM |
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Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! Btw, in addition to the markets being decentralized, it's even more important that no one can get scammed. Enter smart contracts and double deposit escrow. Ok the markets are now live for anyone to use and beta test! Here is the website with the download links below. http://bitbaymarket.net/We will mirror this on bitbay.market and thebitbay.org shortly... Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! BlackHalo markets available now for beta download : blackcoinHey everyone, now anyone can test the markets. Currently, only the "custom template" is available. The rest are to come very soon. Please let me know if the linux build works on all platforms. The new website, http://www.blackhalo.info contains new links and supports all platforms. For those who asked me to test a few days ago sorry i didnt reply, i was just getting this ready. So... say hello to decentralized markets. Enjoy.
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dadon (OP)
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March 24, 2015, 11:10:55 PM |
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Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! Btw, in addition to the markets being decentralized, it's even more important that no one can get scammed. Enter smart contracts and double deposit escrow. Ok the markets are now live for anyone to use and beta test! Here is the website with the download links below. http://bitbaymarket.net/We will mirror this on bitbay.market and thebitbay.org shortly... Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! BlackHalo markets available now for beta download : blackcoinHey everyone, now anyone can test the markets. Currently, only the "custom template" is available. The rest are to come very soon. Please let me know if the linux build works on all platforms. The new website, http://www.blackhalo.info contains new links and supports all platforms. For those who asked me to test a few days ago sorry i didnt reply, i was just getting this ready. So... say hello to decentralized markets. Enjoy. yeah but its not the same SDC is also an anynomous currency and communication platform and the market is in the wallet...one platform to do everything..no one else is even close to doing what SDC is doing.
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March 24, 2015, 11:26:20 PM |
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Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! Btw, in addition to the markets being decentralized, it's even more important that no one can get scammed. Enter smart contracts and double deposit escrow. Ok the markets are now live for anyone to use and beta test! Here is the website with the download links below. http://bitbaymarket.net/We will mirror this on bitbay.market and thebitbay.org shortly... Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! BlackHalo markets available now for beta download : blackcoinHey everyone, now anyone can test the markets. Currently, only the "custom template" is available. The rest are to come very soon. Please let me know if the linux build works on all platforms. The new website, http://www.blackhalo.info contains new links and supports all platforms. For those who asked me to test a few days ago sorry i didnt reply, i was just getting this ready. So... say hello to decentralized markets. Enjoy. yeah but its not the same SDC is also an anynomous currency and communication platform and the market is in the wallet...one platform to do everything..no one else is even close to doing what SDC is doing. Done decentralized market is here just because you are not going to easily buy hardcore drugs and guns, fake id's etc on there does not mean it is not worthy. Why do we need a new silkroad anyway lol Life is not about that crap that is sold on there it is actually bad for you i will have you know ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Bitbay the first proper decentralized market with smartcontracts can i get a amen
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March 24, 2015, 11:38:07 PM |
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Can I ask a genuine question?
When the SDC marketplace is delivered, will it be running through standard wallets or through nodes of another kind?
Standard wallet, decentralisation is key and everybody is part of it. Currency, communication and commerce in one platform and your privacy at the heart of it.... Let the revolution begin!
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March 25, 2015, 01:21:17 AM |
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Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! Btw, in addition to the markets being decentralized, it's even more important that no one can get scammed. Enter smart contracts and double deposit escrow. Ok the markets are now live for anyone to use and beta test! Here is the website with the download links below. http://bitbaymarket.net/We will mirror this on bitbay.market and thebitbay.org shortly... Say HELLO to the worlds first decentralized markets!! BlackHalo markets available now for beta download : blackcoinHey everyone, now anyone can test the markets. Currently, only the "custom template" is available. The rest are to come very soon. Please let me know if the linux build works on all platforms. The new website, http://www.blackhalo.info contains new links and supports all platforms. For those who asked me to test a few days ago sorry i didnt reply, i was just getting this ready. So... say hello to decentralized markets. Enjoy. yeah but its not the same SDC is also an anynomous currency and communication platform and the market is in the wallet...one platform to do everything..no one else is even close to doing what SDC is doing. Done decentralized market is here just because you are not going to easily buy hardcore drugs and guns, fake id's etc on there does not mean it is not worthy. Why do we need a new silkroad anyway lol Life is not about that crap that is sold on there it is actually bad for you i will have you know ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Bitbay the first proper decentralized market with smartcontracts can i get a amen It really does not worry me because SDC is going a completely different direction and it's better so i can wait being first don\t mean much dark was first anonymous coin..real impressive they are.
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March 25, 2015, 01:31:25 AM |
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It really does not worry me because SDC is going a completely different direction and it's better so i can wait being first don\t mean much dark was first anonymous coin..real impressive they are. I agree with you first mover is not always the best mover but in this case it might well be as the guy behind it is good at what he does but anyway like you say they are going different directions and one is going to be legal the other illegal, so if you feel something illegal is better then hats of to you bro i hope it does well for you and whoever is going to be buying from there. Good luck.
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March 25, 2015, 01:36:59 AM |
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It really does not worry me because SDC is going a completely different direction and it's better so i can wait being first don\t mean much dark was first anonymous coin..real impressive they are. I agree with you first mover is not always the best mover but in this case it might well be as the guy behind it is good at what he does but anyway like you say they are going different directions and one is going to be legal the other illegal, so if you feel something illegal is better then hats of to you bro i hope it does well for you and whoever is going to be buying from there. Good luck. On a worldwide scale, which is what these markets will be used on; I ask you to define "illegal". Do we take a consensus of all things illegal and not illegal in all respective countries; to set what should be illegal for the entire world?
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March 25, 2015, 01:48:32 AM |
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It really does not worry me because SDC is going a completely different direction and it's better so i can wait being first don\t mean much dark was first anonymous coin..real impressive they are. I agree with you first mover is not always the best mover but in this case it might well be as the guy behind it is good at what he does but anyway like you say they are going different directions and one is going to be legal the other illegal, so if you feel something illegal is better then hats of to you bro i hope it does well for you and whoever is going to be buying from there. Good luck. On a worldwide scale, which is what these markets will be used on; I ask you to define "illegal". Do we take a consensus of all things illegal and not illegal in all respective countries; to set what should be illegal for the entire world? Well illegal for me may not be illegal for you so things like weed not so bad, but then hardcore drugs are illegal around most of the world the same as selling cloned cards, fake id,s, guns, and pretty much most of the stuff your users are going to be selling on a 'silk road' decentralized marketplace. I don't really care to be honest as i like the idea of freedom to an extent, of course there are lines they should not be crossed. Are you able to filter what is going to be sold on the markets? Decentralized i am assuming no please correct me if i am wrong but that could/will lead to trouble.
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March 25, 2015, 02:12:15 AM |
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I'm a law abiding individual, so I don't really care about an illegal goods marketplace. But I am highly interested in a decentralized Ebay alternative for legal stuff. I hate Ebay so much. So fucking much.
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March 25, 2015, 02:38:32 AM |
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You can find illegal stuff on Google its up to you how you use Google. And the same with Shadow market, if you dont want to buy illegal guns then dont search for them, simple.
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March 25, 2015, 02:46:32 AM |
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Can I ask a genuine question?
When the SDC marketplace is delivered, will it be running through standard wallets or through nodes of another kind?
Standard wallet, decentralisation is key and everybody is part of it. Currency, communication and commerce in one platform and your privacy at the heart of it.... Let the revolution begin! What is the escrow model of SDC marketplace?
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March 25, 2015, 02:52:38 AM |
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Im not sure if a p2p market is really usable as a marketplace feature maybe as a chat feature only... Shadow tried to reuse chat feature to extend to marketplace.. Openbazaar is p2p aswell.. Annonymity? When selling physical goods i dont think its really needed.. 99% of the world doesnt do dark markets so its not a logical target.
I know nxt free market does it on the blockchain and so does syscoin the later being more fully featured in terms of offer support on the chain.. Many cool things can be done once its on the chain that i dont think can be done gracefully in p2p..
I can see the usecase of annonymous chats but not markets.. So to that i prefer projects focus on usability of markets rather than gear it towards dark markets.
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March 25, 2015, 02:55:25 AM |
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Also many If not all teams focus on a system wherpeby users must conform to the systems standard to use it rather than conform to the general public and systems already put in place.. The thinking is opposite of ehat it should be.. Dont make people change to use these features rather bring them to people using what they already have... If you are lost not to worry i will implement a proof of concept for syscoin to demonstrate what i mean...
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March 25, 2015, 03:38:25 AM |
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Also many If not all teams focus on a system wherpeby users must conform to the systems standard to use it rather than conform to the general public and systems already put in place.. The thinking is opposite of ehat it should be.. Dont make people change to use these features rather bring them to people using what they already have... If you are lost not to worry i will implement a proof of concept for syscoin to demonstrate what i mean...
are you a sys coin dev? Can i have my Ico bundle now? Still waiting on my hat and other swag. "Syscoin Presale Thank you! We are just confirming that your investment in the Syscoin Presale for 1 BTC has been received. You will receive your Syscoin before 12PM PST, August 16th 2014. Apologies if you have received this email before, but a number of people had complained of non-receipt, and sending to all investors is the safest option."
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March 25, 2015, 04:13:11 AM |
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Lol at the pictures of spices being sold on the website. Very subtle... /s ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) not a website mate that is the wallet the marketplace is built in ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) shadow is the ultimate private trading platform. Can we use Bitcoin in the market place? well yes because you can trade BTC-SDC and then use the SDC to buy things, but possibly i'm not sure yet BTC could also be used as a currency on the Shadow Marketplace Ah. The market should have really good items for sale to make people convert to SDC.
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March 25, 2015, 04:30:04 AM |
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Also many If not all teams focus on a system wherpeby users must conform to the systems standard to use it rather than conform to the general public and systems already put in place.. The thinking is opposite of ehat it should be.. Dont make people change to use these features rather bring them to people using what they already have... If you are lost not to worry i will implement a proof of concept for syscoin to demonstrate what i mean...
are you a sys coin dev? Can i have my Ico bundle now? Still waiting on my hat and other swag. "Syscoin Presale Thank you! We are just confirming that your investment in the Syscoin Presale for 1 BTC has been received. You will receive your Syscoin before 12PM PST, August 16th 2014. Apologies if you have received this email before, but a number of people had complained of non-receipt, and sending to all investors is the safest option." Message danosphere
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March 30, 2015, 11:55:14 PM |
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Can I ask a genuine question?
When the SDC marketplace is delivered, will it be running through standard wallets or through nodes of another kind?
Standard wallet, decentralisation is key and everybody is part of it. Currency, communication and commerce in one platform and your privacy at the heart of it.... Let the revolution begin! What is the escrow model of SDC marketplace? Anyone know?
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March 31, 2015, 02:40:04 AM |
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Can I ask a genuine question?
When the SDC marketplace is delivered, will it be running through standard wallets or through nodes of another kind?
Standard wallet, decentralisation is key and everybody is part of it. Currency, communication and commerce in one platform and your privacy at the heart of it.... Let the revolution begin! What is the escrow model of SDC marketplace? Anyone know? Dont think there is one...
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