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March 23, 2015, 03:47:08 PM Last edit: March 23, 2015, 04:14:44 PM by alani123 |
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I think there was a website that helped with this, I don't really remember its name.
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March 23, 2015, 04:17:47 PM |
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what do you mean by "associate"?
what do you want to associate with?
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alani123 (OP)
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March 23, 2015, 04:18:59 PM |
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what do you mean by "associate"?
what do you want to associate with?
It was a website that you put in two addresses and would tell you if there's any relationship between them and how likely it is that they're owned by the same person.
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March 23, 2015, 06:11:59 PM |
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If there is a site that does this, I'd like to see it. I'm not sure how you'd do it other than manually following the input/outputs of an address, and even then I'm not clear on how you'd draw a relationship between different addresses wrt ownership.
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March 23, 2015, 06:14:18 PM |
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You are a Professional googler, or not?
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March 23, 2015, 06:16:15 PM |
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what do you mean by "associate"?
what do you want to associate with?
It was a website that you put in two addresses and would tell you if there's any relationship between them and how likely it is that they're owned by the same person. Maybe this will help: http://www.walletexplorer.com/
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March 23, 2015, 06:22:05 PM |
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You are a Professional googler, or not? I am, not every website has a good SEO though. It has to be on google to find it there by googling you know.
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March 23, 2015, 08:03:34 PM |
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I am curious how's the related web app differentiate change addresses with payment addresses. I don't know it's detectable. so, associating it should be an educated guess imho.
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March 23, 2015, 08:05:24 PM |
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I am curious how's the related web app differentiate change addresses with payment addresses. I don't know it's detectable. so, associating it should be an educated guess imho.
The page I remember made associations according to transaction evidence from the blockchain.
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March 23, 2015, 09:46:20 PM |
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I am curious how's the related web app differentiate change addresses with payment addresses. I don't know it's detectable. so, associating it should be an educated guess imho.
You can only be sure if the addresses have been used in the same transaction, as only the owner of those addresses can do that.
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March 23, 2015, 10:45:00 PM |
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-snip- You can only not be sure if when the addresses have been used in the same transaction, as only the owner of those addresses can do that. its possible for several people to create a shared transaction.
*cough* CoinJoin *cough*
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Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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March 23, 2015, 10:56:55 PM |
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-snip- You can only not be sure if when the addresses have been used in the same transaction, as only the owner of those addresses can do that. its possible for several people to create a shared transaction.
*cough* CoinJoin *cough* Can you provide an example?
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March 23, 2015, 11:04:47 PM |
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-snip- You can only not be sure if when the addresses have been used in the same transaction, as only the owner of those addresses can do that. its possible for several people to create a shared transaction.
*cough* CoinJoin *cough* Can you provide an example? This[1] is allegedly[2] a CoinJoin transaction (bc.i calls the service SharedCoin). I also read[3] that it was broken in the past and fixed[4] earlier this year. The underlying theory however is sound. Just because a transaction spends two inputs, does not mean these two inputs are signed by private keys owned by the same person and/or company. Its pretty bad obfuscation if you provide an input worth 0.3001 to spend 0.3 and I provide an input worth 0.3101 to spend 0.31 and we pay a total fee of 0.0002 though. [1] https://blockchain.info/tx/a95d3964f90e96b11b1813fe02115f60346b8734603054a305c2d635fe5648a0[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580791.0[3] http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/[4] https://github.com/blockchain/Sharedcoin/issues/3/
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March 23, 2015, 11:07:19 PM |
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-snip- You can only not be sure if when the addresses have been used in the same transaction, as only the owner of those addresses can do that. its possible for several people to create a shared transaction.
*cough* CoinJoin *cough* Can you provide an example? Another example of my own from Blockchain's shared send feature: https://blockchain.info/tx/be4a639b6a1a37edbf447c06471b820ba60faa473bca4f0613f2465795082418One of the input addresses of this TX and 2 of the outputs are mine. I have no idea whose all the other ones are. If someone assumes that all the input addresses belong to the same person because they were signed in the same transaction, they would have made a big mistake.
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March 23, 2015, 11:13:24 PM |
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Thank you, shorena, EcuaMobi. Was reading Wikipedia article about it, was under the impression these were simple mixing services. If someone assumes that all the input addresses belong to the same person because they were signed in the same transaction, they would have made a big mistake.
Correct. Walletexplorer.com only reliable for transactions previous to this method.
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March 25, 2015, 07:13:14 AM |
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If there is a site that does this, I'd like to see it. I'm not sure how you'd do it other than manually following the input/outputs of an address,
and even then I'm not clear on how you'd draw a relationship between different addresses wrt ownership...
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BrianM
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March 30, 2015, 11:32:38 AM |
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If there is a site that does this, I'd like to see it. I'm not sure how you'd do it other than manually following the input/outputs of an address,
and even then I'm not clear on how you'd draw a relationship between different addresses wrt ownership...
I think it would be interesting if there is a site that can do that. It will be a strong tool in hunting down those scammers who steal our bitcoins. Sounds like a good business idea, if someone is up for the task.
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April 01, 2015, 05:13:55 AM |
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April 01, 2015, 01:57:45 PM |
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Hmm... interesting. It's like traceroute for addresses. Thanks for sharing.
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BrianM
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April 02, 2015, 06:47:53 PM |
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WAUS! That is a cool link. Thank you very must my good man. You should have a god damn medal.
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