Anything sustainable worth of investing?

[thy]

It's kind of a bit risky I would say, because you risk even investing in BTC, but here you also risk investing in a casino and an altcoin which depends on a success of a single project (Just-Dice.com). There seems to be some other little projects, but they would hardly save the day if something would happen to Just-Dice.
Bla bla, ok I'm gonna grab some CLAMS and try this

True enough but if JD still had a Bitcoin bankroll I would use their site.
Nothing like getting a portion of the gambling revenues from the whales eventually (variance and all) but at least with Clams the coins value is smaller but it has a stake so an addtional revenue model is nice, it does add two additonal layers of risk verus Bitcoin one it adds an Altcoin to the mix then the price of Bitcoin as an additional relation, and second operator risk, still it is better than most of the ideas I've seen in the thread so far, conversion considered its been pretty stable.

Old members  can just claim free clams and turn them to BTC using their old Bitcoin addresses and move any balance in them to a new address without even needing to buy any clams from an exchange so free BTC in a sense (And I won't get in trouble for saying its practically a giveaway for oldies whistle) all it requires is a 2.53 percent increase in effort to be precise ha-ha
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg11264272#msg11264272

Why clams? All these other elements seem OK but clams??? Using BTC or some other more prominent alt would be much easier option.

Dooglus the owner of JD had to stop the old casino witch used BTC as gambling currency because of regulatory changes as new laws were directed towards BTC in Canada. But maby it would be possibe for him to in paralell to claims run a few other currencys like LTC and such also if the demand for gambling in other currencys is large enouth.

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[crazyivan]

It's kind of a bit risky I would say, because you risk even investing in BTC, but here you also risk investing in a casino and an altcoin which depends on a success of a single project (Just-Dice.com). There seems to be some other little projects, but they would hardly save the day if something would happen to Just-Dice.
Bla bla, ok I'm gonna grab some CLAMS and try this

True enough but if JD still had a Bitcoin bankroll I would use their site.
Nothing like getting a portion of the gambling revenues from the whales eventually (variance and all) but at least with Clams the coins value is smaller but it has a stake so an addtional revenue model is nice, it does add two additonal layers of risk verus Bitcoin one it adds an Altcoin to the mix then the price of Bitcoin as an additional relation, and second operator risk, still it is better than most of the ideas I've seen in the thread so far, conversion considered its been pretty stable.

Old members  can just claim free clams and turn them to BTC using their old Bitcoin addresses and move any balance in them to a new address without even needing to buy any clams from an exchange so free BTC in a sense (And I won't get in trouble for saying its practically a giveaway for oldies whistle) all it requires is a 2.53 percent increase in effort to be precise ha-ha
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg11264272#msg11264272

Why clams? All these other elements seem OK but clams??? Using BTC or some other more prominent alt would be much easier option.

Dooglus the owner of JD had to stop the old casino witch used BTC as gambling currency because of regulatory changes as new laws were directed towards BTC in Canada. But maby it would be possibe for him to in paralell to claims run a few other currencys like LTC and such also if the demand for gambling in other currencys is large enouth.

Yes, my point exactly. If he had to ditch BTC, why clams, there are several more prominent and more secure currencies available.

[thy]

It's kind of a bit risky I would say, because you risk even investing in BTC, but here you also risk investing in a casino and an altcoin which depends on a success of a single project (Just-Dice.com). There seems to be some other little projects, but they would hardly save the day if something would happen to Just-Dice.
Bla bla, ok I'm gonna grab some CLAMS and try this

True enough but if JD still had a Bitcoin bankroll I would use their site.
Nothing like getting a portion of the gambling revenues from the whales eventually (variance and all) but at least with Clams the coins value is smaller but it has a stake so an addtional revenue model is nice, it does add two additonal layers of risk verus Bitcoin one it adds an Altcoin to the mix then the price of Bitcoin as an additional relation, and second operator risk, still it is better than most of the ideas I've seen in the thread so far, conversion considered its been pretty stable.

Old members  can just claim free clams and turn them to BTC using their old Bitcoin addresses and move any balance in them to a new address without even needing to buy any clams from an exchange so free BTC in a sense (And I won't get in trouble for saying its practically a giveaway for oldies whistle) all it requires is a 2.53 percent increase in effort to be precise ha-ha
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg11264272#msg11264272

Why clams? All these other elements seem OK but clams??? Using BTC or some other more prominent alt would be much easier option.

Dooglus the owner of JD had to stop the old casino witch used BTC as gambling currency because of regulatory changes as new laws were directed towards BTC in Canada. But maby it would be possibe for him to in paralell to claims run a few other currencys like LTC and such also if the demand for gambling in other currencys is large enouth.

Yes, my point exactly. If he had to ditch BTC, why clams, there are several more prominent and more secure currencies available.

Oh i guess that it was to promote the claims coin, i think dooglus was the person in the world that had most bitcoinadresses with a balance large enouth on them when claims started to qualify for free coins so he was the one that got most free claims, more than anyone else in the world did get.

[cryptojumper]

Oh i guess that it was to promote the claims coin, i think dooglus was the person in the world that had most bitcoinadresses with a balance large enouth on them when claims started to qualify for free coins so he was the one that got most free claims, more than anyone else in the world did get.

I think Satoshi should have even more CLAMS than dooglus Should be enough for a bankroll if he invested... I wonder whether Satoshi even knows how rich in CLAMS he is, it would be so cool if he dumped them all...

[overc]

Hey guys,

I post these questions a lot recently on different forums but I ve not been able to receive a satisfactory answer. Has BTC economy really turned into a sea of ponzies and scam?
Is there ANYTHING worth of investing these days? Anything which might provide sustainable dividend, regardless of how low it might be?

Pls do not post cryptodublers, pyramid schemes, 5% per day ROI websites and similar junk. Only verifiable and transparent options pls.

Have a look at that, real enterprise looking for additional investments, ROI about 30% per year.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054325.0

[crazyivan]

Hey guys,

I post these questions a lot recently on different forums but I ve not been able to receive a satisfactory answer. Has BTC economy really turned into a sea of ponzies and scam?
Is there ANYTHING worth of investing these days? Anything which might provide sustainable dividend, regardless of how low it might be?

Pls do not post cryptodublers, pyramid schemes, 5% per day ROI websites and similar junk. Only verifiable and transparent options pls.

Have a look at that, real enterprise looking for additional investments, ROI about 30% per year.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054325.0

What is collateral for this kind of investment? Who guarantees you wont run the next day?

[overc]

Hey guys,

I post these questions a lot recently on different forums but I ve not been able to receive a satisfactory answer. Has BTC economy really turned into a sea of ponzies and scam?
Is there ANYTHING worth of investing these days? Anything which might provide sustainable dividend, regardless of how low it might be?

Pls do not post cryptodublers, pyramid schemes, 5% per day ROI websites and similar junk. Only verifiable and transparent options pls.

Have a look at that, real enterprise looking for additional investments, ROI about 30% per year.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054325.0

What is collateral for this kind of investment? Who guarantees you wont run the next day?

We are real people, you can check our real contacts in ssl-certificate, whois.
I am here since 2013.
I would not put my reputation and real contacts here if I would not be confident in the project.
I agree, probably it is not enough trust for average investment, because we do not have much reputation yet,
but 30% annual return is much higher than average investment as well.

So, I think ROI/risk ratio quite good.

[thy]

Details pls. How does your payouts system works, I suppose dividends. How often, based on what, pls give us a short overview.

Thx

If you're looking for constant dividend payments, we're not the right investment. We are a startup company focusing on growth which means we have very little focus on dividends. Not at this stage, at least. Right now we're putting our money in investments that support our growth plan.

Actually i think your company Bittiraha.fi might be very interesting also for those that want dividend to but they would have to do a little workaround to get it.
If your valuation now is 2 750 000 euro, it should then be at least 2 900 000 - 3 250 000 euro after the funding round has succeded and if your currently process around 1 million EUR of trading volume per month and maby have a net profit somewhere in the 1-3% range of that, then with the added capital and new projects lets you can up those numbers to around 2 million EUR volume per month and an avg profitmarging of 2-4% instead then the valuation of the company should resonable at the very least increase by something like 0.34-2.46% a month. If  somone then wants a monthly dividend then if they for example bought 10 000 shares either directly or throu alcurex they could just sell off maby 0.15-1.2%(15-120 shares) of there stocks each month if the price per stock goes up as it resonably shuld do and they would both get the dividend they wanted and also have stocks left that has a higher value than they initially invested.

[Termin4tor]

Just one simple answer no, dont even think about cloud mining. 

[crazyivan]

Just one simple answer no, dont even think about cloud mining.  

I do think about it, I do use it and have been making constant profit on cloud mining for the last 6-7 months.

Just pick a reputable company, do not go with ponzies promising 17 days ROI and constantly reinvest at least 50% of your payouts.

[Technomage]

Actually i think your company Bittiraha.fi might be very interesting also for those that want dividend to but they would have to do a little workaround to get it.
If your valuation now is 2 750 000 euro, it should then be at least 2 900 000 - 3 250 000 euro after the funding round has succeded and if your currently process around 1 million EUR of trading volume per month and maby have a net profit somewhere in the 1-3% range of that, then with the added capital and new projects lets you can up those numbers to around 2 million EUR volume per month and an avg profitmarging of 2-4% instead then the valuation of the company should resonable at the very least increase by something like 0.34-2.46% a month. If  somone then wants a monthly dividend then if they for example bought 10 000 shares either directly or throu alcurex they could just sell off maby 0.15-1.2%(15-120 shares) of there stocks each month if the price per stock goes up as it resonably shuld do and they would both get the dividend they wanted and also have stocks left that has a higher value than they initially invested.

This is true. Our valuation and business is growing which means that by selling small amounts one can get periodical returns. Not dividends technically, but a return anyway.

We are planning to list our company to Privanet after the funding round. Privanet is a stock exchange for unlisted companies that allows trading the shares with much more liquidity than otherwise with small companies.

[crazyivan]

What else do we have? I see most of people go with cloud and staking. Is there anything else more differentiated? Supernet does not pay a dividend. Anything like that?

[overc]

What else do we have? I see most of people go with cloud and staking. Is there anything else more differentiated? Supernet does not pay a dividend. Anything like that?

So, we are different, we are not cloud nor staking: https://www.capelazarev.com
I can't hear from you any opinion about us except "Who guarantees you wont run the next day".
Give an example, with which guarantees you would be satisfied?

[crazyivan]

What else do we have? I see most of people go with cloud and staking. Is there anything else more differentiated? Supernet does not pay a dividend. Anything like that?

So, we are different, we are not cloud nor staking: https://www.capelazarev.com
I can't hear from you any opinion about us except "Who guarantees you wont run the next day".
Give an example, with which guarantees you would be satisfied?

You can be a completely honest guy but how can I know that?

[crazyivan]

Another interesting option related to Diamond DMD coin.

Several guys already took this opportunity.

Once more, THE MOMENT you invest 0.1 BTC in the DMD Diamond cloud service, you get 60% ROI back, that is you get 100 DMD Diamond coins back immediately, these are worth 0.06 BTC.

Also, you get daily payments in DMD Diamond coins to your DMD wallet, proportional to your cloud investment.

Plus, all these DMD Diamond coins stake at 50% per year and generate 50% annual interest to you.

This is a very good offer, IMHO.

More details here:

https://bit.diamonds/community/index.php/topic,113.0.html

[EternalWingsofGod]

Checking in on this thread since its been a while my clams are still growing due to staking and price has been stable since my last check in so doing good

Was checking the remains of havelock
And noticed there was one stable stock that has strong operator stability among them which is rentalstarter

Its model was turning Bitcoins into cash to acquire rental properties then using the rent to purchase new properties it's not doing so bad actually looking at it over the last two years, stable as a housing bubble or bust.

That said rentalstarter had a great conversion rate looking at it retroactively seeing how the price went and having real contact info is always a plus.
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=RENT

Saw it briefly mentioned a while back and though checking on it a few months later didn't seem like a bad idea.

[overc]

What else do we have? I see most of people go with cloud and staking. Is there anything else more differentiated? Supernet does not pay a dividend. Anything like that?

So, we are different, we are not cloud nor staking: https://www.capelazarev.com
I can't hear from you any opinion about us except "Who guarantees you wont run the next day".
Give an example, with which guarantees you would be satisfied?

You can be a completely honest guy but how can I know that?

You can have a look at domain name, everything is registered for real person, we have the news on the web-site with photos how we are preparing for coming fishing season:
https://www.capelazarev.com/20150522_shift_ref_truck.shtml

We have some shareholders already, so 1st January 2016 you will see first real dividends here:
https://www.coinprism.info/asset/AGCX9BGE1spiPs6C48wva22VufbD6bpxEp/owners

We have put our official documents here (in russian):
https://www.capelazarev.com/index.shtml

[crazyivan]

What else do we have? I see most of people go with cloud and staking. Is there anything else more differentiated? Supernet does not pay a dividend. Anything like that?

So, we are different, we are not cloud nor staking: https://www.capelazarev.com
I can't hear from you any opinion about us except "Who guarantees you wont run the next day".
Give an example, with which guarantees you would be satisfied?

You can be a completely honest guy but how can I know that?

You can have a look at domain name, everything is registered for real person, we have the news on the web-site with photos how we are preparing for coming fishing season:
https://www.capelazarev.com/20150522_shift_ref_truck.shtml

We have some shareholders already, so 1st January 2016 you will see first real dividends here:
https://www.coinprism.info/asset/AGCX9BGE1spiPs6C48wva22VufbD6bpxEp/owners

We have put our official documents here (in russian):
https://www.capelazarev.com/index.shtml

Ok, good luck with your venture. As of me, I ll wait till Jan 2016 to be able to estimate profitability.

[overc]

Ok, good luck with your venture. As of me, I ll wait till Jan 2016 to be able to estimate profitability.

Sure, choice is yours, just to remind:
if some shares not sell this round, then we will offer second round in January 2016, but dividends for the second round shares will start in January 2017.

[MultiDice]

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