BFL Mini-Rig came in. Where are the instructions? (solved)

[Paladin69]

Trying to set up their easyminer after downloading it.  No idea what to do here.  It seems to lack features.  Where to plug in my API key, etc...  I'd like to connect this to my Eclipse MC account.

EDIT:  I have only used guiminer before.  Testing this on a Windows XP laptop for now...

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[Carlton Banks]

easyminer, lol. Easy by name...

[Paladin69]

easyminer, lol. Easy by name...

Yep this is pretty much a joke.  Can't believe no instructions are included after a person pays them that much money for something.  Just a sheet of paper on what you do would be nice.

I can run light, medium and heavy diagnostic tests.  Oh and I can make the internal lights blink.  Joy.  At least everything seems to be working okay.  But it is currently a gigantic door stop.

I'd take pictures if I wasn't so frustrated right now...

[Carlton Banks]

I feel for you, but...

relax

You will get it working, but I do understand, it's very difficult holding on to your patience when you're trying to get your magic money making box running, I've been through it.


The final hurdle when I finally got my mining setup going? I didn't think to try unplugging and re-attaching the USB cable. And I got that advice from going on the fpgamining IRC channel (and was suitably embarassed afterwards, but not before I was completely ecstatic). What a clod! And I'd already done all the hard work too!

[Cablez]

Why not run it with cgminer or bitminter? It seems other mini-rig owners use these to mine with.

[yochdog]

I will buy your mini-rig and relieve you of the hassle.  Let me know.  

[Paladin69]

I'm relaxed guys...haha...  When you pay 5 figures for something you expect halfway decent service is all.  BFL still wants to milk for consulting I guess.

Going to give Bitminter a try.  White Phantom just suggested that too.

[teek]

I will buy your mini-rig and relieve you of the hassle.  Let me know.  

me too!!

[Cablez]

Hey now, he just got it!!!     and I call dibs, lolol


Anyway, in cgminer you just need to call each com port that gets used as if it were a bunch of singles. I am not sure about bitminter as I have never used it. WhitePhantom would know.

[Paladin69]

Hey now, he just got it!!!     and I call dibs, lolol


Anyway, in cgminer you just need to call each com port that gets used as if it were a bunch of singles. I am not sure about bitminter as I have never used it. WhitePhantom would know.

is CGminer better in any way?  I haven't touched a dos prompt in ages.

[Cablez]

I prefer it but that is just me. It has great config and control options and is a very small and simple a program compared to flashy gui miners. Your preferences will dictate what you are comfortable with though so if you want to shy away from a semi-command prompt miner then go with bitminter.

[hausmarke]

use the bitminter client its very easy to use and the best pool around

here is the link to the client: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31163.0

[WhitePhantom]

I've always used the BitMinter client and love it.  When I start up the beta miner, it auto-detects all my Mini-Rigs' FPGAs.  Some tend to fall off the list while the rest are still being detected, but I just re-add them using Devices >> "Probe specific port for FPGA" and then type in the COM port, such as COM12.  It's easy enough to tell which ones are missing, as they're sequentially numbered.  This puts the missing devices back in the list and mines away like a champ.

[Paladin69]

Got em all running.  bitminter says 11.6 BTC per day.  That would be $4100 per month.  I don't believe it but I've still got a boner.  lol

[yochdog]

Got em all running.  bitminter says 11.6 BTC per day.  That would be $4100 per month.  I don't believe it but I've still got a boner.  lol

you WILL sell me your mini-rig. 

*waves hand* 

[Paladin69]

WhitePhantom or anyone,

Got some questions, but first an update after two hours of crunching...

I think I got lucky and all are working.  Starts at COM3 for me and goes to COM21 without skipping a number.  That adds up to 19 but the CPU should be disabled from crunching.  Running this on a shitty 1st gen intel atom laptop...lol  When I reduced the CPU affinity from 2 to 1 on the java app, I dropped from 11.6 BTC average to 10.5 or so.  I don't think an atom core could crunch .9 per day so something else is going on there.  Apparently I should be running on better hardware if that is the case...  Didn't really think the computer had much to do with it.

Running diagnostics with easyminer does show that one of the cards in there does fail occasionally.  On the light test...I will fail between 3 & 6, umm units?, out of 100

Is there anything worth checking out in the Tune & Tweak buttons?  Anything else a person should be aware of with this java app?

There is an auto-tune package here...  http://www.butterflylabs.com/drivers/  Not really sure what it does.  I don't wanna disturb anything, it's all running fine so far.

Does this thing throttle itself down to 25.2 Gh/s?  I ask because it feels that way.  A few of the bitforce's are running at 1,450Mh but most are in the 1200 range.  Yet I still add up to the 25.2 as promised.

Does the bitminter pool update the balance once per day or once per hour?  I still show "0" after two hours...  But I am #6 on the fastest users now so it is apparently working...

[WhitePhantom]

WhitePhantom or anyone,

Got some questions, but first an update after two hours of crunching...

I think I got lucky and all are working.  Starts at COM3 for me and goes to COM21 without skipping a number.  That adds up to 19 but the CPU should be disabled from crunching.  Running this on a shitty 1st gen intel atom laptop...lol  When I reduced the CPU affinity from 2 to 1 on the java app, I dropped from 11.6 BTC average to 10.5 or so.  I don't think an atom core could crunch .9 per day so something else is going on there.  Apparently I should be running on better hardware if that is the case...  Didn't really think the computer had much to do with it.

Running diagnostics with easyminer does show that one of the cards in there does fail occasionally.  On the light test...I will fail between 3 & 6, umm units?, out of 100

Is there anything worth checking out in the Tune & Tweak buttons?  Anything else a person should be aware of with this java app?

There is an auto-tune package here...  http://www.butterflylabs.com/drivers/  Not really sure what it does.  I don't wanna disturb anything, it's all running fine so far.

Does this thing throttle itself down to 25.2 Gh/s?  I ask because it feels that way.  A few of the bitforce's are running at 1,450Mh but most are in the 1200 range.  Yet I still add up to the 25.2 as promised.

Does the bitminter pool update the balance once per day or once per hour?  I still show "0" after two hours...  But I am #6 on the fastest users now so it is apparently working...

I'd suggest turning on affinity for all your CPU cores.  To keep them from mining, just hit the red X to remove the CPU from the list of mining hardware.

I've never changed a setting in the Tune & Tweak area for an FPGA.

Based on my experience, the auto-tune package is a waste of time.  It's better to try tweaking them yourself.
See my comments here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76916.msg1099628#msg1099628

The cards in the mini-rig do not throttle.  Every FPGA is unique and those used in the mini-rig are able to run at either 1500 or 1320 MH/s, similar to the +/- 10% specification on the Singles.  It looks like you got an excessive number of units that run at 1320, but to make up for it, BFL put an extra FPGA in your box; each of my mini-rigs only have 18.

Your balance on BitMinter updates when we find a block.  If you go to My Account >> Donations & Perks and set it to 1% or higher, you can opt to get paid immediately, even if our block is orphaned.  Otherwise you have to wait 120 confirmations to get paid.

You get paid based on your proofs of work over the last 10 shifts.
http://bitminter.com/shifts

If you look at your Account Details under the "Expected per block" column, that is how much you will receive if we find a block in the current shift.

If you go to Statistics >> Blocks (coins minted) or if you click the Live Stats button and go to the "Round" tab, you'll see that the last block we found was 4 hours 21 minutes ago at 7:45pm UTC.  The CDF (Cumulative Distribution Function) of 74% means that, on average, we would find a block more quickly than this one 74% of the time.

If you mine 24/7, it all averages out.

[Paladin69]

WhitePhantom or anyone,

Got some questions, but first an update after two hours of crunching...

I think I got lucky and all are working.  Starts at COM3 for me and goes to COM21 without skipping a number.  That adds up to 19 but the CPU should be disabled from crunching.  Running this on a shitty 1st gen intel atom laptop...lol  When I reduced the CPU affinity from 2 to 1 on the java app, I dropped from 11.6 BTC average to 10.5 or so.  I don't think an atom core could crunch .9 per day so something else is going on there.  Apparently I should be running on better hardware if that is the case...  Didn't really think the computer had much to do with it.

Running diagnostics with easyminer does show that one of the cards in there does fail occasionally.  On the light test...I will fail between 3 & 6, umm units?, out of 100

Is there anything worth checking out in the Tune & Tweak buttons?  Anything else a person should be aware of with this java app?

There is an auto-tune package here...  http://www.butterflylabs.com/drivers/  Not really sure what it does.  I don't wanna disturb anything, it's all running fine so far.

Does this thing throttle itself down to 25.2 Gh/s?  I ask because it feels that way.  A few of the bitforce's are running at 1,450Mh but most are in the 1200 range.  Yet I still add up to the 25.2 as promised.

Does the bitminter pool update the balance once per day or once per hour?  I still show "0" after two hours...  But I am #6 on the fastest users now so it is apparently working...

I'd suggest turning on affinity for all your CPU cores.  To keep them from mining, just hit the red X to remove the CPU from the list of mining hardware.

I've never changed a setting in the Tune & Tweak area for an FPGA.

Based on my experience, the auto-tune package is a waste of time.  It's better to try tweaking them yourself.
See my comments here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76916.msg1099628#msg1099628

The cards in the mini-rig do not throttle.  Every FPGA is unique and those used in the mini-rig are able to run at either 1500 or 1320 MH/s, similar to the +/- 10% specification on the Singles.  It looks like you got an excessive number of units that run at 1320, but to make up for it, BFL put an extra FPGA in your box; each of my mini-rigs only have 18.

Your balance on BitMinter updates when we find a block.  If you go to My Account >> Donations & Perks and set it to 1% or higher, you can opt to get paid immediately, even if our block is orphaned.  Otherwise you have to wait 120 confirmations to get paid.

You get paid based on your proofs of work over the last 10 shifts.
http://bitminter.com/shifts

If you look at your Account Details under the "Expected per block" column, that is how much you will receive if we find a block in the current shift.

If you go to Statistics >> Blocks (coins minted) or if you click the Live Stats button and go to the "Round" tab, you'll see that the last block we found was 4 hours 21 minutes ago at 7:45pm UTC.  The CDF (Cumulative Distribution Function) of 74% means that, on average, we would find a block more quickly than this one 74% of the time.

If you mine 24/7, it all averages out.

Are you doing 1%?  I'm too much of a miser...lol  Does a block getting "orphaned" happen a lot?  Orphaned means that multiple pools were crunching on the same block or something?

How long do 120 confirmations take?  24 hours I assume?

Thanks again man, you've been a great help.

You running a fan on your miners?  Many of these are getting to 120-130 degrees F on my end even though that is still considered "in the green" for bitminter.

[WhitePhantom]

WhitePhantom or anyone,

Got some questions, but first an update after two hours of crunching...

I think I got lucky and all are working.  Starts at COM3 for me and goes to COM21 without skipping a number.  That adds up to 19 but the CPU should be disabled from crunching.  Running this on a shitty 1st gen intel atom laptop...lol  When I reduced the CPU affinity from 2 to 1 on the java app, I dropped from 11.6 BTC average to 10.5 or so.  I don't think an atom core could crunch .9 per day so something else is going on there.  Apparently I should be running on better hardware if that is the case...  Didn't really think the computer had much to do with it.

Running diagnostics with easyminer does show that one of the cards in there does fail occasionally.  On the light test...I will fail between 3 & 6, umm units?, out of 100

Is there anything worth checking out in the Tune & Tweak buttons?  Anything else a person should be aware of with this java app?

There is an auto-tune package here...  http://www.butterflylabs.com/drivers/  Not really sure what it does.  I don't wanna disturb anything, it's all running fine so far.

Does this thing throttle itself down to 25.2 Gh/s?  I ask because it feels that way.  A few of the bitforce's are running at 1,450Mh but most are in the 1200 range.  Yet I still add up to the 25.2 as promised.

Does the bitminter pool update the balance once per day or once per hour?  I still show "0" after two hours...  But I am #6 on the fastest users now so it is apparently working...

I'd suggest turning on affinity for all your CPU cores.  To keep them from mining, just hit the red X to remove the CPU from the list of mining hardware.

I've never changed a setting in the Tune & Tweak area for an FPGA.

Based on my experience, the auto-tune package is a waste of time.  It's better to try tweaking them yourself.
See my comments here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76916.msg1099628#msg1099628

The cards in the mini-rig do not throttle.  Every FPGA is unique and those used in the mini-rig are able to run at either 1500 or 1320 MH/s, similar to the +/- 10% specification on the Singles.  It looks like you got an excessive number of units that run at 1320, but to make up for it, BFL put an extra FPGA in your box; each of my mini-rigs only have 18.

Your balance on BitMinter updates when we find a block.  If you go to My Account >> Donations & Perks and set it to 1% or higher, you can opt to get paid immediately, even if our block is orphaned.  Otherwise you have to wait 120 confirmations to get paid.

You get paid based on your proofs of work over the last 10 shifts.
http://bitminter.com/shifts

If you look at your Account Details under the "Expected per block" column, that is how much you will receive if we find a block in the current shift.

If you go to Statistics >> Blocks (coins minted) or if you click the Live Stats button and go to the "Round" tab, you'll see that the last block we found was 4 hours 21 minutes ago at 7:45pm UTC.  The CDF (Cumulative Distribution Function) of 74% means that, on average, we would find a block more quickly than this one 74% of the time.

If you mine 24/7, it all averages out.

Are you doing 1%?  I'm too much of a miser...lol  Does a block getting "orphaned" happen a lot?  Orphaned means that multiple pools were crunching on the same block or something?

How long do 120 confirmations take?  24 hours I assume?

Thanks again man, you've been a great help.

You running a fan on your miners?  Many of these are getting to 120-130 degrees F on my end even though that is still considered "in the green" for bitminter.

I do 1%.  I may be mistaken, but I believe an orphaned block occurs when two miners find a block at the same height at roughly the same time.  The network confirms one of the blocks and orphans the other.  I've heard that an orphaned block is created roughly 2.5% of the time, but I don't recall who said that.

I have a portable A/C blowing directly on both of my mini-rigs.  The small room they're in is like 85F, but the mini-rigs stay cool since the A/C is ducted straight to them.  Sonny tells me that you're only running too hot if you get an unacceptable number of errors.  He also suggested that 59C (138F) is getting on the very warm side for some of the MR's FPGAs, but that others can run much hotter than that reliably; just depends on the particular unit.

[Carlton Banks]

Anything else a person should be aware of with this java app?

I've got no BFL based advice for you, but with regard to the Java aspect... the Java run-time is well known for being commonly exploited by malicious attackers, and new attack vectors are frequently discovered in the wild. Run-time based application frameworks in general have a reputation for being insecure. I'm not saying that it's an inevitability, but when it came to choosing my mining software I wasn't up for taking the risk (certainly not long term)

Does the bitminter pool update the balance once per day or once per hour?  I still show "0" after two hours...  But I am #6 on the fastest users now so it is apparently working...

Sounds like Bitminter expose you to the stuff that other pools keep hidden behind the scenes (orphaned blocks, DOA shares, bloc maturity etc). A good thing IMO, the more transparent they are about the workings of the operation, the easier it is to tell how good a deal you're getting. Not to mention that a more intimate understanding of how mining works is good for the miner