450 Mpg Carburetors Suppressed by US Government!

[COMANDANTE CHE-PRAS]

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/450-mpg-carburetors-suppressed-by-us-government-2590184.html

[dropt]

Bullshit.  There are 195 countries in the world, if this had any merit at least one would be profiting off it but they're not.

[(oYo)]

You should move this thread to the Politics & Society section.

[Vod]

We need to go back to single digit mpg.  Our poor oil price needs it!

[nsimmons]

Conservation of energy look it up.

The required kinetic energy to accelerate and then keep a vehicle at velocity, plus waste heat is easily calculated, a highschool student can do it. The amount of energy in a  gallon of gasoline is known, these numbers have to match.

[nsimmons]

Bullshit.  There are 195 countries in the world, if this had any merit at least one would be profiting off it but they're not.

Its not that the technology is suppressed, the technology is impossible. If every last joule of energy in the gasoline was extracted you would be able to sustain 33KW/h about 45hp. The problem is most of the energy in an ICE is wasted as heat. It has nothing to do with the carburetor and everything to do with combustion.

Think about it logically. If you ignite a vapour, how do you prevent heat and ensure all the energy is converted to kinetic to move the piston? An uncontrolled combustion reaction doesn't work.

A fuel cell does work, highly energetic electrons on hydrogen atoms are oxidized, while oxygen becomes reduced. The potential energy of the electrons is harnessed in the fuel cell and water is produced.

[COMANDANTE CHE-PRAS]

200 mpg Pogue Carburetor

“In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932 Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using his super-carb system.”   

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2011/09/200-mpg-pogue-carburetor/

[nsimmons]

200 mpg Pogue Carburetor

“In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932 Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using his super-carb system.”  

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2011/09/200-mpg-pogue-carburetor/

http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/fish3.htm

For Pogue—or any similar carburetor—to go 100 mpg on a gallon of fuel on a vehicle normally going 20 mpg, the air/fuel ratio would have to be in the neighborhood of 75 to 1 or better.  Charles Nelson Pogue was a machinist with no formal training in thermodynamics

Any second-year college chemistry student knows that.

Go to school retard.

[COMANDANTE CHE-PRAS]

 Water-Powered Cars & Inventors Killed  http://henrymakow.com/2013/11/Illuminati-Suppress-Water-Powered-Cars.html

[dropt]

Bullshit.  There are 195 countries in the world, if this had any merit at least one would be profiting off it but they're not.

Its not that the technology is suppressed, the technology is impossible. If every last joule of energy in the gasoline was extracted you would be able to sustain 33KW/h about 45hp. The problem is most of the energy in an ICE is wasted as heat. It has nothing to do with the carburetor and everything to do with combustion.

Think about it logically. If you ignite a vapour, how do you prevent heat and ensure all the energy is converted to kinetic to move the piston? An uncontrolled combustion reaction doesn't work.

A fuel cell does work, highly energetic electrons on hydrogen atoms are oxidized, while oxygen becomes reduced. The potential energy of the electrons is harnessed in the fuel cell and water is produced.

I'm aware of the laws of thermodynamics and conservation of energy, I just took an approach on the assumption that OP wouldn't understand all the big words.  Thanks for spelling out the reality of the situation for OP where I failed to do so.

[Mr Tsoutsounopaiktis]

Oh yes, the mumbo jumbo laws of thermodynamics.

[criptix]

can you idiots please stop posting this shit over and over again?

thanks 

[notbatman]

United States Patent: 4,862,859
Yunick: September 5, 1989

Apparatus and operating method for an internal combustion engine

Abstract

A method and apparatus for operating an electric ignition, internal combustion engine that substantially improves the fuel efficiency by utilizing heat normally discharged to the ambient to condition and prepare the fuel mixture prior to entry into the combustion chambers. The apparatus comprises a fuel vaporizer that transfers heat from the engine coolant system to the fuel mixture as it leaves a fuel introducing device such as a carburetor; a fuel mixture heater for heating the mixture above the vaporization temperature of the liquid fuel; and, a mixture homogenizer for thoroughly stirring the fuel mixture that is located in the fuel mixture flow path intermediate the vaporizer and heater. The homogenizer is operative to compress the fuel mixture under certain engine operating conditions and the heater forms the intake manifold for the engine and includes branch flow paths and associated conduits that communicate directly with each combustion chamber through a valve controlled port. The fuel mixture flow path from the homogenizer is constructed to minimize energy losses to the ambient.

Inventors:    Yunick; Henry (Daytona Beach, FL)

[ChiliPowder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Eco-marathon


    149.95 MPG with a 1947 Studebaker in 1949
    244.35 MPG with a 1959 Fiat 600 in 1968
    376.59 MPG with a 1959 Opel in 1973.


Now these guys are going over 12k miles on 1 gallon, granted it is in test conditions and not even close to something that could drive on the road. My point is if you can make a special car go 12k why can't you take some of those principles and go 100 mpg in everyday cars?

They had a studebaker go almost 150 miles on 1 gallon, you can't get a Ford Focus to do the same? Bullshit.

[criptix]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Eco-marathon


    149.95 MPG with a 1947 Studebaker in 1949
    244.35 MPG with a 1959 Fiat 600 in 1968
    376.59 MPG with a 1959 Opel in 1973.


Now these guys are going over 12k miles on 1 gallon, granted it is in test conditions and not even close to something that could drive on the road. My point is if you can make a special car go 12k why can't you take some of those principles and go 100 mpg in everyday cars?

They had a studebaker go almost 150 miles on 1 gallon, you can't get a Ford Focus to do the same? Bullshit.

there exist cars with similiar properties, just not based on what OP posted.
i remember ~2000 there were several cars in the german news that would drive 100 km with 3 liter of gasoline.
it was just there was no demand for it in the end.

its in german though:
cars that drive with less then 4 liter per 100 km (2012):
http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/autos-die-weniger-als-vier-liter-verbrauchen-fotostrecke-80535.html

[Mr Tsoutsounopaiktis]

Faraday wrote it requires 96Kj of electrical energy to split water into HHO with an increase of 286Kj of heat energy created when Hydrogen is recombined to make water. So, stop mention about the pseudo-thermodynamics.

[Grand_Voyageur]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Eco-marathon


    149.95 MPG with a 1947 Studebaker in 1949
    244.35 MPG with a 1959 Fiat 600 in 1968
    376.59 MPG with a 1959 Opel in 1973.


Now these guys are going over 12k miles on 1 gallon, granted it is in test conditions and not even close to something that could drive on the road. My point is if you can make a special car go 12k why can't you take some of those principles and go 100 mpg in everyday cars?

They had a studebaker go almost 150 miles on 1 gallon, you can't get a Ford Focus to do the same? Bullshit.

1959 Fiat 600 was heavily modified...and often the ride by switching off engine and coasting.

The car looks like a normal Fiat 600, but there were serious changes made inside.

"Basically, what they did was everything that ran off the pully at the bottom, they took off," he said. "The alternator is gone, the water pump is gone, the radiator is gone. There's no fan. They used electric pumps to circulate the water, and they used a small heater core as a small radiator for the air to come through, and the air would pick up the heat and help cool the water. But they didn't run the engine that long. They'd crank it, run and then kill the engine and coast. Same thing they're doing here. They just did it with real cars back then."

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/04/08/shell-eco-marathon-1959-fiat-600-brings-hypermiling-history/

I suppose you could heavily modify your own Ford Focus then switch off engine, etc....to coast; but probably to achieve similar results at end your car is not a Ford Focus anymore.