Leeroy Jenkins (OP)
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PuertoLibre
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April 16, 2015, 09:58:24 PM |
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291 is a riot. BFL's attorneys are now hoping that they're entitled to payment somehow but the FTC shot that shit down. ROFL.  Actually, if you read 291, VERY CAREFULLY you can actually see that BFL's legal team made tons of really obvious mistakes. In all honesty, I think BFL is mandating the course of actions and their legal team probably have to comply. I don't honestly believe their legal team could make this many mistakes (as cited by the FTC). I know sometimes attorneys wish to "appease" their clients as long as they are getting paid....but 291 shows just how many obvious mistakes are being made and how the fight is seemingly nonsense on one front. The attorneys used the improper naming scheme to sue a federal entity. A pretty darn obvious mistake if you are an attorney. <EPIC face palm> Who the fook is in charge over there?! I will pay them on the side to keep doing exactly what they are doing! LMAO! |
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April 16, 2015, 10:01:37 PM |
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LOL, what a coincidence. Time to phone it in to the IRS/FBI? Oh, wait, isn't there already a case open by ______ M. ___________?  |
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Leeroy Jenkins (OP)
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April 16, 2015, 10:04:50 PM |
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LOL, what a coincidence. Time to phone it in to the IRS/FBI? Oh, wait, isn't there already a case open by ______ M. ___________? Follow the second link to see that all the bitcoins stemmed from EclipseMC's 1Baf75Ferj6A7AoN565gCQj9kGWbDMHfN9 mined the middle of 2013. |
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April 17, 2015, 12:31:57 AM |
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I will pay them on the side to keep doing exactly what they are doing! LMAO!
"Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte |
Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success.
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 05:23:19 AM |
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Dude, you caused me to choke on my Scarabaeidae au Gratin. |
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April 17, 2015, 06:17:08 AM |
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April 17, 2015, 06:40:58 AM |
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Interesting. A.D. Douma, A 1% percent owner in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. I'd almost say it's safe to assume that this is SLok. |
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Leeroy Jenkins (OP)
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April 17, 2015, 06:58:46 AM |
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Interesting. A.D. Douma, A 1% percent owner in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. I'd almost say it's safe to assume that this is SLok.
It's almost safe to assume your post is useless. Do you know who SLok is? |
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April 17, 2015, 07:10:13 AM |
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http://ia601803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.19.pdfBF Labs only has mined from its headquarters in Overland Park, Kansas. At the 48:30 mark during the interview heard at https://letstalkbitcoin.com/e34-bitcoin-and-the-butters/, Stephanie asked Josh about the testing process, and Josh goes into detail about how not only are the units tested on a testnet at their facility, but BFL had to purchase a warehouse and use two data centers to test all the miners they produce, and that doing such was getting complicated. Interesting. A.D. Douma, A 1% percent owner in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. I'd almost say it's safe to assume that this is SLok.
It's almost safe to assume your post is useless. Do you know who SLok is? I do! He's BFL's SLokPUppet.  FWIW, I just got back from vacation in South America and am surprised to see that the mods locked the BFL thread in hardware. I'm just now catching up on the latest.
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April 17, 2015, 07:27:28 AM |
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http://ia601803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.19.pdfBF Labs did not maintain records on the date each refund was requested or whether the refund was made in cash or bitcoin. To go back and attempt to create a spreadsheet on the date each refund was requested, for instance, is unrealistic. To the extent it is even possible, it would result in an untold number of hours to try to identify the specific information. Well, that tosses AML/KYC and proper IRS filing out the window.  Speaking of AML/KYC... Mt Gox needs to use a third party for AML/KYC rather than do it themselves. There is too much incentive for them to simply claim documents are fake and block account holders because there is no transparency at all .
Its like putting the banks in charge of their own regulations through the SEC which caused the GFC !
MtGox doesn't need to do anything because it's regulated by it's customers (i.e. the free market). Just watch how fast they'll fall if they are stupid enough to start operating in bad faith. They already are operating in bad faith. They are not informing their customers that they do not have the fiat funds to cover withdrawals over a few thousand dollars. There are a number of us at the moment with $10,000+ withdrawals being held indefinitely without any explanation, but if we make smaller withdrawals those go through. In my case, I've had zero problems with withdrawals in the past and I have been a verified member for quite some time. Haven't changed any account information, etc... For some reason, something about a proverbial goose comes to mind. For those who love cooked goose... Thanks for the post MTGox_Dylan. I think most everyone was already aware of these FAQ points, though. That has never really been the issue, so I'm not sure what is hoped to have been accomplished by making this post, other than as a distracting measure (This would have been perhaps more effective: NSFW). The real problem here is, as has already been at least partially mentioned:
1. The lack of transparency in the process.
2. The lack of communication.
3. The lies and false promises made by MTGox Support Staff with regards to AML/KYC.
4. Delay after delay, ostensibly under the guise of AML.
5. The just plain ludicrous decisions (Goat as an example). Perhaps transparency would clear these up.
6. The fact that most decisions made by MTGox seem completely arbitrary, and nothing... NOTHING pisses off customers more than arbitrary decision making. When your actions are not predictable in a given situation, you are wrong. Period.So while this post is nice and all, I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish other than to distract from the real issues surrounding MTGox. My situation, that has been on going since April, is still unresolved. I am not the only one in this situation and there are plenty of others in similar situations. Again, this does not seem to be an AML issue, it seems to be an insolvency issue. MTGox is unable to fund even moderate sized fiat conversions, which leads many of us to believe you guys are basically bankrupt and a disaster waiting to happen. The fact that no one has publicly denied this (not that we'd believe you at this point anyway, given MTGox track record of lies and falsehoods) certainly does not bolster confidence in MTGox at all. Maybe this is the wrong thread to bring any of this up, but I don't want people to be distracted by this kind of thread from the real issue of MTGox being unable to meet their obligations to even moderate sized customers, especially when you are trying to gain new customers who will end up completely screwed when the Gox house of cards comes crashing down.
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April 17, 2015, 07:28:00 AM |
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Hello. I'm writing to let you know that due to a subpoena that I received related to a case against BFL, I was forced to release some of your PMs.
In particular, I released all PMs that you sent to or received from the following people, possibly even if you deleted the PM:
Inaba
BFL-Engineer
BFL_Josh
SLok
BFL_Sonny
BFL AM Dave
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BFL_Mole
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April 17, 2015, 07:36:28 AM |
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Hello. I'm writing to let you know that due to a subpoena that I received related to a case against BFL, I was forced to release some of your PMs.
In particular, I released all PMs that you sent to or received from the following people, possibly even if you deleted the PM:
Inaba
BFL-Engineer
BFL_Josh
SLok
BFL_Sonny
BFL AM Dave
bcp19
nibbknot
Who was nibbknot then? Interesting. I think Bruno declared that he's nibbknot. Was it BFL that forced the release of private data because they seem to not want to give up such on their end. http://ia601803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.19.pdfBF Labs is not willing to provide IPs and account names for Defendant’s employees or agents that were personal in nature. If Plaintiffs can provide some authority suggesting such information is discoverable, BF Labs will entertain this request. BF Labs has provided account names that BF Labs employees and agents have used in BF Labs’ forums. BF Labs is willing to supplement its answer if employees have made representations in other forums in their capacity as employees. Further, BF Labs objects that this is unduly burdensome and overly broad to compile this information. |
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April 17, 2015, 07:42:02 AM |
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BF Labs does not maintain records on the information sought by this interrogatory. BF Labs will identify the one bitcoin wallet address at issue. That active wallet address is 18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu. You should be aware that this same wallet received customer payments in bitcoin. http://ia601803.us.archive.org/33/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083/gov.uscourts.ksd.97083.73.19.pdfWith so much going on and the pressure and all, it's safe to assume that BFL simply forgot about their 12uyvDAC8LNU8yGcW8dYLGPToSD2JenVfH wallet used for the same purpose. I love the part where BFL keeps repeating that they don't keep records.  |
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