[ANN] NeuCoin Presale to start April 28

[Sandrine89]

Here is the key information about the NeuCoin presale which will start on April 28:

• 100 million NEU to be offered in exchange for BTC
• Price starts at $0.01 per NEU and increases by 1% per day
• Presale ends after 60 days or when the 100 million tokens have been sold

All proceeds from the presale will be held in escrow until the NeuCoin cryptocurrency is launched, expected to happen in July. (If the launch does not occur by September 30, all presale purchases will be refunded). Following launch, all proceeds will be distributed among NeuCoin's three Isle of Man-based, non-profit foundations - the Code, Growth and Utility Foundations - and will be used, along with cash remaining from NeuCoin's strategic angel round, to fund core development, consumer marketing and projects that increase the utility of the cryptocurrency.

The initial price of $.01 per NeuCoin is two times the price paid over the past year by NeuCoin's strategic angel investors (in cash) and NeuCoin's founding team. However, all the NeuCoin sold to angels and retained by the founding team can only be sold or used at the rate of 2%/month during the year after launch, 3%/month during year two, 4%/month during year three, 5%/month during year four, and 6%/month during year five. These re-sale restrictions were put in place to ensure that the founding team and strategic angels are committed to the successful development of NeuCoin over the long term.

The main purpose of the presale is to enable the broader crypto community to join NeuCoin's own community:

• A founding team who have launched several consumer-facing internet companies that have reached tens of millions of users in the music, gaming and shopping spaces. See bios here: http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#team
• Strategic advisors that include Patricke Stymne, co-founder and Chief Architect of King (Candy Crush Saga), Alex Norstrom, Head of Growth of Spotify, Jackson Palmer, creator of Dogecoin, Michael Witrant, core developer of Peercoin, and Brock Pierce, crypto financier and member of the Bitcoin Foundation
• NeuCoin's strategic angels, invited to invest based on their ability to forge partnerships and help drive consumer adoption, include the SVP of Business at Uber, the President of Hotwire, the Head of Growth at Facebook, Producers of television shows American Idol and X-factor, and dozens of other top tech, media and VC executives and entrepreneurs. List of angels here: http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#angels

The initial presale price of $.01 equates to a market value of $30 million for the total supply of 3 billion NeuCoins that will exist at launch. However, at a price of $.01, it is worth noting that coinmarketcap.com (the popular digital currency pricing information provider) will initially indicate NeuCoin's market cap at just $1 million - because the only NeuCoin available for sale at launch will be the 100 million NeuCoins sold in the presale. Moreover, as shown in the chart below, the vast majority of all NeuCoin at launch will be held by NeuCoin's foundations, which will use their NeuCoin assets to increase the utility and value of the cryptocurrency over time.

Proceeds from the NeuCoin token presale, along with cash remaining from the angel investors, will cover the foundations' expenses during the year after launch. The foundations' main objectives for year one are the following:

• One million or more consumers using NeuCoin for online micropayments
• Hundreds of quality content providers accepting NeuCoin micropayments
• Integration with leading exchanges in all major geographic markets to enable easy access to NeuCoin for consumers worldwide

When it launches in the summer of 2015, NeuCoin will be the first cryptocurrency that is:

• easy for regular consumers to access and use
• free for consumers to try out with zero friction
• designed for online micropayments (from $.01 to $1), an area where traditional payment methods are unviable or inefficient
• distributed not just to miners, but to all who grow its value and utility
• secure, efficient and decentralized in the long-run based on an innovative proof-of-stake technology
• supported by well-funded non-profit foundations dedicated to maximizing its utility and value

As an incentive to learn more and get involved, the NeuCoin foundations are offering up to 2,500 NeuCoins to those who read NeuCoin's Strategic Plan (http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/) and share their opinions through a questionnaire available from the Strategic Plan page. These would be additional to any NeuCoins you earned if you completed the earlier survey.

Looking forward to your feedback!

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[Hazard]

As if this rubbish is worth [a minimum of] $1,000,000... Nice one, mate.

[Is Oprah Fuckable?]

As if this rubbish is worth [a minimum of] $1,000,000... Nice one, mate.

Who'd take investment advice from a dickhead who past up NXT lol Below is Hazard's response to NXT.

Yawn

Look at the date, how often do you lie awake thinking what might have been for your sorry ass if you'd invested just $50 in NXT ... you are a classic crypto loser bro!!

pro tip, if Hazard says no ... BUY!!

[ApexEvo]

Hazard is bitter asshole and oprah is definetly not fuckable.

[Hazard]

As if this rubbish is worth [a minimum of] $1,000,000... Nice one, mate.

Who'd take investment advice from a dickhead who past up NXT lol Below is Hazard's response to NXT.

Yawn

Look at the date, how often do you lie awake thinking what might have been for your sorry ass if you'd invested just $50 in NXT ... you are a classic crypto loser bro!!

pro tip, if Hazard says no ... BUY!!

Did you really just register a throwaway account to post this? That's adorable.

[wagabee london]

do you have information on the paycoin Exchange for neucoin?will there be a online wallet?neucoin websites?

[Is Oprah Fuckable?]

Hazard is bitter asshole and oprah is definetly not fuckable.

exactly, Hazard is a bitter twisted guy who's made embarrassingly bad decisions, yet still insists on sprouting his negative crap as if anybody gives a hoot what a loser like him thinks. noobies beware, hero member status means nothing, don't listen to proven losers for investment advice. Would you take seriously book reviews from the publisher who turned down JK Rowling's first Harry Potter book? Hazard and that guy are old drinking buddies these days!

As for Oprah, I don't fancy the slimmed down version, but when she's cuddly, maybe .... after a few drinks, probably

[Saltzman Alaric]

As if this rubbish is worth [a minimum of] $1,000,000... Nice one, mate.

Who'd take investment advice from a dickhead who past up NXT lol Below is Hazard's response to NXT.

Yawn

Look at the date, how often do you lie awake thinking what might have been for your sorry ass if you'd invested just $50 in NXT ... you are a classic crypto loser bro!!

pro tip, if Hazard says no ... BUY!!

Except nobody invested in NXT you shit bag.  BCnext was a known sock puppet.  He got over half the NXT for himself.  There were like 70 accounts, but most of those are BCnext and if you trace the chain you can see how they tie together. 

I’d like to announce Nxt (pronounced as "next"), a cryptocurrency based on Bitcoin paradigm.

P.S.  I’m a veteran member of this forum.  I have to use this brand new account to remain anonymous but later I may reveal my identity.

[TaunSew]

Has anyone ever validated any of the names with NeuCoin?  I don't mean people like Brock Pierce - he's been endorsing stuff all the time (like AppleByte which was a huge flop).

NeuCoin is claiming to be partnered or invested by all these big tech names (like Henrik Kjelberg) and yet nothing on social media substantiates those claims and the only returns are from Bitcointalk and Cryptonews sites which is probably info from press releases NeuCoin wrote themselves.

[btcbug]

Where do we sign up for the presale? Not seeing it on the website.

[Bitshill]

I have a feeling, this not gonna end well. All big investors presale are shit. Take a look at Ziftr

[EvilDave]

Has anyone ever validated any of the names with NeuCoin?  I don't mean people like Brock Pierce - he's been endorsing stuff all the time (like AppleByte which was a huge flop).

NeuCoin is claiming to be partnered or invested by all these big tech names (like Henrik Kjelberg) and yet nothing on social media substantiates those claims and the only returns are from Bitcointalk and Cryptonews sites which is probably info from press releases NeuCoin wrote themselves.

Leaving Oprahs shaggability and Hazards investment skillz aside (he wasn't the only guy to pass on NXT, and O is a little bit wide for my tastes.... )....

NeuCoin looks pretty cool on paper.....pretty much an NXT copy in all respects (which is good to see, imitation is the best form of flattery)  but it's still a centralised, corporate project with all the possible issues that could bring.
This could be the next Paycoin, or it could be something more......time will tell.

I really don't like the Ripple/MarineCoin model of issuing a tiny proportion of coins to the market, with the NeuCoin foundations controlling the vast majority of funds. As Ripple (and others) have shown, this pretty much allows NeuCoin itself complete control of NeuCoins market cap/price. Like I just said, corporate project, eh?

In conclusion....DYOR (lots of R) before throwing money/BTC at them.   

[TaunSew]

Has anyone ever validated any of the names with NeuCoin?  I don't mean people like Brock Pierce - he's been endorsing stuff all the time (like AppleByte which was a huge flop).

NeuCoin is claiming to be partnered or invested by all these big tech names (like Henrik Kjelberg) and yet nothing on social media substantiates those claims and the only returns are from Bitcointalk and Cryptonews sites which is probably info from press releases NeuCoin wrote themselves.

Leaving Oprahs shaggability and Hazards investment skillz aside (he wasn't the only guy to pass on NXT, and O is a little bit wide for my tastes.... )....

NeuCoin looks pretty cool on paper.....pretty much an NXT copy in all respects (which is good to see, imitation is the best form of flattery)  but it's still a centralised, corporate project with all the possible issues that could bring.
This could be the next Paycoin, or it could be something more......time will tell.

I really don't like the Ripple/MarineCoin model of issuing a tiny proportion of coins to the market, with the NeuCoin foundations controlling the vast majority of funds. As Ripple (and others) have shown, this pretty much allows NeuCoin itself complete control of NeuCoins market cap/price. Like I just said, corporate project, eh?

In conclusion....DYOR (lots of R) before throwing money/BTC at them.  

3.33% sale to Bitcointalk / overpriced IPOs all flop
'Corporate Distribution'
Fork of Peercoin (you need millions to fork Peercoin when others did it for free?)
Questionable claims about initial investors and refusal to validate
Similar and recent projects, of the same corporate style, which went nowhere and technically still competition to NeuCoin.
Grandiose goals (uhh you want to attain 1 million users in 1 year when Bitcoin is still under 250,000 after 6 years?)
Endorsements from "Crypto Celebrities", where their endorsements never mattered in other projects.


"Starting at 25,000 NEU per BTC"  as per their website.  Just to buy tenth of 1 percent of all Neu you have to spend 120 BTC.


Anyone really think this dude is going to take his Neu$hit further than Bitcoin in just one year?  Especially when it's a fork and there's so much shady?

[0nlyBTC]

mprep this should be in announcements buddy.

[TaunSew]

Daniel Kaufman the "founder" of NeuCoin.

Kaufman Properties:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Kaufman-Properties/Van-Nuys-California-91401/Kaufman-Properties-slumlords-rent-ripoff-by-property-management-Reseda-California-117133
https://www.trustlink.org/Reviews/Kaufman-Properties-205954200
This says he runs slum lord apartments.  This is the guy you think is going to take CryptoCurrency mainstream?   A poverty pimp?


1 million users within 1 year when Bitcoin could only manage 250,000 over 6...   Uh huh... 

[tokeweed]

Bad timng to launch a project.  The market sucks right now.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.  But does that mean I'm buying into the pre-sale?  Nope.  I'll wait until this is traded in the exchanges.

[TaunSew]

https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.

[tokeweed]

https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.

Wouldn't posting lies before the presale be counter intuitive in the first place?  What if the 'investors' saw their site and makes a public statement sayng it's all untrue...?

[TaunSew]

https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.

Wouldn't posting lies before the presale be counter intuitive in the first place?  What if the 'investors' saw their site and makes a public statement sayng it's all untrue...?

They've only been making these claims as of weeks ago.  As well that is not how Google works.  You can type your own name all day on Google and you would never see the returns, of you, being alleged with some obscure thing on a small corner of the internet.  You have to use quotations for precise matching.  So unless somebody told you, someone on the internet was claiming you gave them money, how would you ever find out?  Maybe that is where the "invited to invest" part will come in (see below).

Nicholas Högberg is one of the names they mentioned.

Google: Nicholas Högberg "NeuCoin"
Google: Nicholas Högberg

There is a difference.  I went through a lot of names and couldn't find any substantial proof that any of them are involved with this.  Press releases, Bitcointalk, Cryptonews sites are not proof.

You would think it would had been mentioned on several twitter or social media accounts.  

http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#team

"Invited to invest based on their ability to forge partnerships and help drive consumer adoption, the Strategic Angel"

Maybe that wording was intentional as legal defense.  "invited to invest".   

[tokeweed]

https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.

Wouldn't posting lies before the presale be counter intuitive in the first place?  What if the 'investors' saw their site and makes a public statement sayng it's all untrue...?

They've only been making these claims as of weeks ago.  As well that is not how Google works.  You can type your own name all day on Google and you would never see the returns, of you, being alleged with some obscure thing on a small corner of the internet.  You have to use quotations for precise matching.  So unless somebody told you, someone on the internet was claiming you gave them money, how would you ever find out?  Maybe that is where the "invited to invest" part will come in (see below).

Nicholas Högberg is one of the names they mentioned.

Google: Nicholas Högberg "NeuCoin"
Google: Nicholas Högberg

There is a difference.  I went through a lot of names and couldn't find any substantial proof that any of them are involved with this.  Press releases, Bitcointalk, Cryptonews sites are not proof.

You would think it would had been mentioned on several twitter or social media accounts.  

http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#team

"Invited to invest based on their ability to forge partnerships and help drive consumer adoption, the Strategic Angel"

Maybe that wording was intentional as legal defense.  "invited to invest".  

Could be.  But they could still be liable for suggesting the idea that those mentioned actually invested.