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April 16, 2015, 01:40:04 AM
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Hey there, is it possible to know who removed me from their trust list?
It's concerning because I make it a point to oust scammers and community threats, but no longer have the weight I've had in the past.

I'm looking forward to hearing your feedback.

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April 16, 2015, 01:45:01 AM
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You were never on my trust list, so I didn't do it Grin
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April 16, 2015, 01:45:15 AM
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Hey there, is it possible to know who removed me from their trust list?
It's concerning because I make it a point to oust scammers and community threats, but no longer have the weight I've had in the past.

I'm looking forward to hearing your feedback.

I think escrow.ms had you in his trust list and a couple of weeks ago he removed a lot of people from it. As far as I know you were on his list only so now nobody from depth 1 has you added.
In my opinion users shouldn't ask to be added. Everyone can decide whom to add to their list, including people from depth 1.
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April 16, 2015, 02:54:54 AM
Last edit: April 16, 2015, 11:16:44 AM by r3wt
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I was thinking the other day about registering an account "AlternativeTrust"

so i compiled a list of the people who i consider trustworthy:

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dooglus
defaced
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Kluge
-ck
Vod
danieldaniel
Tomatocage
SaltySpitoon
b!z
binaryFate
mullick
shakezula
~DefaultTrust
monbux
devthedev
tacotime
the joint

note that a ~ (tilde) means remove from trust.

I feel like the above list would be appropriate for an alternative trust list.
you can change your personal trust at any time at

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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April 16, 2015, 02:59:45 AM
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I think you were probably removed because of a previous proximity to TF circa CoinChat era.

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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April 16, 2015, 03:01:53 AM
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You were previously on CanaryInTheMine's trust list and shortly after he was removed entirely, I noticed that you had been added to escrow.ms's list. A few weeks ago you were removed from escrow.ms's list along with several other people.

You would need to discuss with escrow.ms the reason behind your removal.

edit:

"AlternativeTrust"

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April 16, 2015, 03:03:15 AM
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I don't understand. You still have a lot of people having you on their trust list, how could a single trust change your weight? you can still bust scammers with that kind of trust rating.
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April 16, 2015, 03:05:48 AM
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I don't understand. You still have a lot of people having you on their trust list, how could a single trust change your weight? you can still bust scammers with that kind of trust rating.

Well, not being on default trust list removes you from Depth 1. therefore, if someone in Depth 1 doesn't trust you, your trust score isn't Green. Without a green trust score, your visibility as a trusted entity is limited to those that know/know of you.

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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April 16, 2015, 03:06:58 AM
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You were previously on CanaryInTheMine's trust list and shortly after he was removed entirely, I noticed that you had been added to escrow.ms's list. A few weeks ago you were removed from escrow.ms's list along with several other people.

You would need to discuss with escrow.ms the reason behind your removal.

edit:

"AlternativeTrust"

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Sorry Quickseller, but i don't know you well enough to put you on my trust list yet.

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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April 16, 2015, 03:09:21 AM
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I don't understand. You still have a lot of people having you on their trust list, how could a single trust change your weight? you can still bust scammers with that kind of trust rating.

Well, not being on default trust list removes you from Depth 1. therefore, if someone in Depth 1 doesn't trust you, your trust score isn't Green. Without a green trust score, your visibility as a trusted entity is limited to those that know/know of you.
His trust looks pretty green to me.

Being on level 2 (or even level 1) of the default trust network has nothing to do with the color of your trust rating, it only has to do with if your feedback is visible to others by default

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April 16, 2015, 03:10:11 AM
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I don't understand. You still have a lot of people having you on their trust list, how could a single trust change your weight? you can still bust scammers with that kind of trust rating.

Well, not being on default trust list removes you from Depth 1. therefore, if someone in Depth 1 doesn't trust you, your trust score isn't Green. Without a green trust score, your visibility as a trusted entity is limited to those that know/know of you.

No. Having a green trust has nothing to do with being on default trust.
You are on default trust by "default" if someone from depth 1 adds you to his trust list and therefore you become part of depth 2. Even someone with negative trust could be on default trust (although of course no one on depth 1 would do that).
Your trust is green if the left-most number is positive and that happens if you have a few trusted ratings for several months. Those are 2 independent concepts.
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April 16, 2015, 03:10:37 AM
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I don't understand. You still have a lot of people having you on their trust list, how could a single trust change your weight? you can still bust scammers with that kind of trust rating.

Well, not being on default trust list removes you from Depth 1. therefore, if someone in Depth 1 doesn't trust you, your trust score isn't Green. Without a green trust score, your visibility as a trusted entity is limited to those that know/know of you.
His trust looks pretty green to me.

Being on level 2 (or even level 1) of the default trust network has nothing to do with the color of your trust rating, it only has to do with if your feedback is visible to others by default

Which is what i meant.

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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April 16, 2015, 03:45:12 AM
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Even someone with negative trust could be on default trust (although of course no one on depth 1 would do that).
If I remember right, users on the default trust with negative overall trust are removed from the list.

But I too noticed that users have been removed from the default trust in the past few weeks. Another user removed who hasn't been mentioned was cooldgamer. It seems like most of the people removed from default trust were very trustworthy, not sure why someone would remove them from their trust list.
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April 16, 2015, 06:30:07 AM
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Something that always pops into my mind is this: the forum continually repeats that the trust list is not moderated, but is it not (some sort of) moderation if the default trust list is altered as people want? (eg CITM removed, tecshare ignored). I may be completely wrong.
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April 16, 2015, 06:47:20 AM
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Something that always pops into my mind is this: the forum continually repeats that the trust list is not moderated, but is it not (some sort of) moderation if the default trust list is altered as people want? (eg CITM removed, tecshare ignored). I may be completely wrong.

No. Feedback left/received isn't moderated but obviously by definition the way default trust works it is  continuously changing over time with people being added and removed.

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April 16, 2015, 06:58:21 AM
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Correct. Feedback isn't moderated. No matter what happens, except in extreme cases of spam, your feedback will always be there for people to read and decide for themselves. They can also decide if they want to see it as trusted or not. That's what it means, that you have a choice, and ultimately it's up to you.

A lot of people use the wrong terms when talking about the trust system.



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April 16, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
Last edit: April 16, 2015, 10:34:55 AM by koelen3
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You still got them Green Apples buddy! I don't think it matters if you are in Depth 2 or not . You are considered as one of the best and Trusted Escrow around here .


Cheers
Why it appears 19 for me and 44 for QS Huh

Trust:   19: -0 / +18(18)

PS - how do i make the #19 dark like in Pic here ? can't find it in codes
EDIT : Got it!
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April 16, 2015, 10:30:03 AM
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You need to trust the same people he does. If you don't use default trust at level 2 you'll see different scores depending on who you have added.

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April 16, 2015, 10:36:00 AM
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You still got them Green Apples buddy! I don't think it matters if you are in Depth 2 or not . You are considered as one of the best and Trusted Escrow around here .
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It's not about his trust rating, his trust feedback won't be seen as trusted anymore.

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It's concerning because I make it a point to oust scammers and community threats, but no longer have the weight I've had in the past.
 =snip=

Why it appears 19 for me and 44 for QS Huh

Trust:   19: -0 / +18(18)

You are using default trust list but Quickseller is using a custom trust list. So what he see maybe different from what you see. It is also possible if Quickeller or you use different trust depth.

P.S. I use a custom trust list and chose depth 1. I see devthedev's rating as 21: -0 / +20(20)

PS - how do i make the #19 dark like in Pic here ? can't find it in codes

You can either use bold code or you can use hex color code instead of using name.

Hex color codes: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_colorpicker.asp

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April 16, 2015, 10:39:49 AM
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You need to trust the same people he does. If you don't use default trust at level 2 you'll see different scores depending on who you have added.
Thanks though i do trust only DefaultTrust but i figured why i see Different from QS (becuase i checked his trust and he has left feedback thrice for him so it adds up +6) , so comes to 25 but i don't understand why 44 , why such large difference ?
Understanding Trust system is little hard but maybe it's because QS's list must be a little modified and hence making it more Green for him .
Only QS can confirm it !

EDIT : @Muhammed Zakir , so his Trust List is modified , i thought to check it up (which i'm) but it's big to compare it in devthedev's Cheesy
Thank for clarifying
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