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April 19, 2015, 02:56:50 AM
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Calm down guys. Stopped and slowed down are two different things.
give it 24 hours and youll know which is it

I just sent a transaction and it arrived within seconds. I'm pretty sure the blockchain is not stopped.
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April 19, 2015, 02:57:34 AM
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Why is POs diff so high and not adjusting?

Give it sometime, no need to panic.
I am around watching. Some people stopped staking.
So it will be a little slower to pick up on PoS blocks.

I said like 9 hours ago that PoS seems to have a problem and that a fix should happen within PoW phase to avoid exactly what is happening now. But you decided that it was FUD and you won't answer to this....

You make it sound like we reached the end of the road.
I still want to wait and see how PoS 2.0 will behave after PoW
to even decide if an adjustment is needed. your suggested fix
would not have fixed a slow down in PoS.

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April 19, 2015, 02:57:43 AM
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Calm down guys. Stopped and slowed down are two different things.
give it 24 hours and youll know which is it

I just sent a transaction and it arrived within seconds. I'm pretty sure the blockchain is not stopped.
lol it showed up but how many confirms does it have zero.. the blockchains been stopped for 45 minutes.

$MAID & $BTC other than that some short hodls and some long held garbage.
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April 19, 2015, 03:00:39 AM
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Calm down guys. Stopped and slowed down are two different things.

With broken difficulty adjustment the situation won't change. It's probably only really, really slow - but that's almost the same. Whats the point in transactions taking half a day or more if a blocks gets staked each 1 or 2 hours?

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April 19, 2015, 03:03:18 AM
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Why is POs diff so high and not adjusting?

Give it sometime, no need to panic.
I am around watching. Some people stopped staking.
So it will be a little slower to pick up on PoS blocks.

I said like 9 hours ago that PoS seems to have a problem and that a fix should happen within PoW phase to avoid exactly what is happening now. But you decided that it was FUD and you won't answer to this....

You make it sound like we reached the end of the road.
I still want to wait and see how PoS 2.0 will behave after PoW
to even decide if an adjustment is needed. your suggested fix
would not have fixed a slow down in PoS.



Afair I didn't suggest a fix?!

I said that diff retageting is not working for PoS. I don't really understand why you want to wait? PoS diff seems static, otherwise it would have changed with the past few PoS blocks, right?

What do you expect? That it suddenly starts changing?

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April 19, 2015, 03:04:00 AM
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Calm down guys. Stopped and slowed down are two different things.

With broken difficulty adjustment the situation won't change. It's probably only really, really slow - but that's almost the same. Whats the point in transactions taking half a day or more if a blocks gets staked each 1 or 2 hours?

Diff adjustment is not broken if you know anything about PoS 2.0 then
you would know 65k is the minimum PoS diff. We did not have a block
in PoS without PoW yet. When we do we will know if a fix is even warranted.
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April 19, 2015, 03:04:59 AM
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"currentblocksize" : 1426,
"currentblocktx" : 2,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 619.04085821,
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"testnet" : false
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Wallet is out of sync...
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April 19, 2015, 03:06:59 AM
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Let's all just wait for a POS block to be found.



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April 19, 2015, 03:08:55 AM
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"currentblocksize" : 1426,
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"netmhashps" : 0.00000000,
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Wallet is out of sync...
read...
chain is stuck

since been hour since block found your gona show out of sync when you already have the top block

$MAID & $BTC other than that some short hodls and some long held garbage.
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April 19, 2015, 03:11:18 AM
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{
"blocks" : 1888,
"currentblocksize" : 1426,
"currentblocktx" : 2,
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"stakeinterest" : 8000000,
"testnet" : false
}

Wallet is out of sync...

If you just started your wallet it will sync on the next PoS block.   Grin

We are having a fine crypto hour of " I told you so "

let's entertain that while we wait for PoS blocks
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April 19, 2015, 03:12:27 AM
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{
"blocks" : 1888,
"currentblocksize" : 1426,
"currentblocktx" : 2,
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Wallet is out of sync...

If you just started your wallet it will sync on the next PoS block.   Grin

We are having a fine crypto hour of " I told you so "

let's entertain that while we wait for PoS blocks

You do know that if it takes too long and the wallets go out of sync, that it won't stake right?
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April 19, 2015, 03:13:01 AM
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Calm down guys. Stopped and slowed down are two different things.

With broken difficulty adjustment the situation won't change. It's probably only really, really slow - but that's almost the same. Whats the point in transactions taking half a day or more if a blocks gets staked each 1 or 2 hours?

Diff adjustment is not broken if you know anything about PoS 2.0 then
you would know 65k is the minimum PoS diff. We did not have a block
in PoS without PoW yet. When we do we will know if a fix is even warranted.


Oh right, good point - I always forget that this is PoS 2.0. Sorry, my bad. Wink

Then the problem is something else: Too few coins in circulation, people don't have enough coins (=not enough weight since its PoS2) in their wallets to stake on a regular basis. This will probably lead to a stuck chain as well - if it's not already stalled.

Simple fix would be to multiply the coin weight by a static factor? I am not exactly a PoS2 expert, but this should work?

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April 19, 2015, 03:16:47 AM
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So we put emulators and game torrents on the masternodes, then we have the game coders start modifying games to allow a massive multi-player environment for old school games. Like we could play super mario with 8 people on the screen  Grin Grin Grin

And give coin rewards for high scores or allow wagers in mp games. Smiley
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April 19, 2015, 03:18:14 AM
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Meanwhile: bittrex market doesn't care. Wink

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April 19, 2015, 03:18:57 AM
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{
"blocks" : 1888,
"currentblocksize" : 1426,
"currentblocktx" : 2,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 619.04085821,
"proof-of-stake" : 65536.00000000,
"search-interval" : 16
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"blockvalue" : 800000000,
"netmhashps" : 0.00000000,
"netstakeweight" : 5115050361688.78710938,
"errors" : "",
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"stakeweight" : {
"minimum" : 0,
"maximum" : 0,
"combined" : 0
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"stakeinterest" : 8000000,
"testnet" : false
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Wallet is out of sync...

If you just started your wallet it will sync on the next PoS block.   Grin

We are having a fine crypto hour of " I told you so "

let's entertain that while we wait for PoS blocks

You do know that if it takes too long and the wallets go out of sync, that it won't stake right?

Yeah i know, i just wanna to say with this, dev please fix it Wink
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April 19, 2015, 03:20:45 AM
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Meanwhile: bittrex market doesn't care. Wink

Looks like it, meanwhile i send some coins over to bittrex, but no confirm cause' the stuck blockchain...
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April 19, 2015, 03:21:21 AM
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Calm down guys. Stopped and slowed down are two different things.

With broken difficulty adjustment the situation won't change. It's probably only really, really slow - but that's almost the same. Whats the point in transactions taking half a day or more if a blocks gets staked each 1 or 2 hours?

Diff adjustment is not broken if you know anything about PoS 2.0 then
you would know 65k is the minimum PoS diff. We did not have a block
in PoS without PoW yet. When we do we will know if a fix is even warranted.


Oh right, good point - I always forget that this is PoS 2.0. Sorry, my bad. Wink

Then the problem is something else: Too few coins in circulation, people don't have enough coins (=not enough weight since its PoS2) in their wallets to stake on a regular basis. This will probably lead to a stuck chain as well - if it's not already stalled.

Simple fix would be to multiply the coin weight by a static factor? I am not exactly a PoS2 expert, but this should work?

Yes, but I will wait and see how it behaves after the first PoS block.
A fix will only take a few minutes. But I want to be certain it's needed.

* sorry I have the 360 seconds limitations so can not answer as quick.
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April 19, 2015, 03:24:34 AM
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Meanwhile: bittrex market doesn't care. Wink

Looks like it, meanwhile i send some coins over to bittrex, but no confirm cause' the stuck blockchain...

Which means even less in circulation. If half of the coins are stuck currently that means only 50k are available. Tongue
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April 19, 2015, 03:25:04 AM
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Yeah i know, i just wanna to say with this, dev please fix it Wink
Yeah that was my point to the dev, if he thinks he can just wait it out, it might go too long.  Probably going to have to do a hardfork to allow POW mining to continue with 0 rewards and get some miners on it to get it moving again, resync, then staking can continue.  Blackcoin based coins won't stake while syncing.

Or whoever it is who has a massive amount of coins sitting in their wallet, could politely turn their wallet back on Tongue
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April 19, 2015, 03:25:24 AM
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Meanwhile: bittrex market doesn't care. Wink

Looks like it, meanwhile i send some coins over to bittrex, but no confirm cause' the stuck blockchain...

Which means even less in circulation. If half of the coins are stuck currently that means only 50k are available. Tongue

Glad i already had some funds on bittrex Grin
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