Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official)

[Matthew N. Wright]

Matthew is a lot of things but I do think he's honest.
No idea why he made this bet though.

18 pages of chatter about something none of the posters are involved in. You don't understand why I made this bet?  

EDIT: Okay now someone involved posts  

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[SgtSpike]

He'll pay out if he loses.  I have the utmost confidence of that.

[yjacket]

Matthew is a lot of things but I do think he's honest.
No idea why he made this bet though.

Like i said, I think he got caught up in the Pirate mystique. This is by far the largest transaction(especially in fiat terms) that he's made. This is the boiling point. If a man steps up to a 10k BTC bet, he's a good man. Otherwise, he's either out of money or made a bad call.

Never make a bet you can't pay up. He gave a lot of people some breathing space on their huge losses. He never took their money(which is nice) but he's still on the hook for a lot of BTC. I don't think he'll pay up, such is bitcoin. It's libertarian, caveat emptor.

[Fluttershy]

Matthew is a lot of things but I do think he's honest.
No idea why he made this bet though.

He's always been a bit unstable. That said, I'm still holding him to his bet. Would the horse track refund his money if he pleaded temporary insanity? Doubtful. Shouldn't make bets if you can't handle the outcome.

[yjacket]

Matthew is a lot of things but I do think he's honest.
No idea why he made this bet though.

18 pages of chatter about something none of the posters are involved in. You don't understand why I made this bet?  

EDIT: Okay now someone involved posts  

Well now Matt, when will you pay? What are the conditions? I think its pretty clear that pirate has defaulted. When will you pay?

[bitcoiners]

Matthew is a lot of things but I do think he's honest.
No idea why he made this bet though.

18 pages of chatter about something none of the posters are involved in. You don't understand why I made this bet?  

EDIT: Okay now someone involved posts  

Well now Matt, when will you pay? What are the conditions? I think its pretty clear that pirate has defaulted. When will you pay?

On the 9th.  He has until then.  Chill.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Well now Matt, when will you pay?

If I lose.

What are the conditions?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751

I think its pretty clear that pirate has defaulted.

Pirate defaulted before I even made the bet. I couldn't agree with you more. The bet is not about defaulting.

When will you pay?

Well now Matt, when will you pay?

If I lose.

[bitcoiners]

How much is bitcoin magazine's rep worth?  You know with him being co-owner and all.  Not good for a fledgling magazine to have a scammer on board.  Nor is it good for the forum here to have staff that scams as well.  This bet affects more than just his reputation.

His magazine's forum rep isn't worth $100,000 either. I somehow doubt they have made $100k worth of sales from it yet, plus I doubt anyone who buys it online or at Barns & Unable will give a crap if one of the owners has a scammer tag on a forum full of trolls. If he does pay out, I'll be surprised. I'm not sure if that will make my opinion of him improve or not.

In the long run I think his magazine's rep is worth way more than 100k.  I DO care what an owner/maker of a product does, it affects me when I purchase something.  I won't buy something if I know an owner/maker has a lifestyle I don't want to support. I.E. Micheal Jackson albums, etc.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I was/am ready to pay out 500 BTC.  I don't see why he won't/wouldn't.  He has much more than me to lose in this bet.

Your opinion of him?  A scammer vs. someone who keeps their word?  You have a conflict with which is better?  Really?  Hm....

[yjacket]

Well now Matt, when will you pay?

If I lose.

What are the conditions?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751

I think its pretty clear that pirate has defaulted.

Pirate defaulted before I even made the bet. I couldn't agree with you more. The bet is not about defaulting.

When will you pay?

Well now Matt, when will you pay?

If I lose.

I'll back off, i didn't remember a specific day that you said you would pay.

Can i ask something for the community? Do you think you've lost the bet? If not, can you give a vague description of why you made the bet and also your theories on Pirate's business model.

Much appreciated. I really don't mean to smear you before the cards down. I apologize.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Can i ask something for the community?

20 questions is over. Read OP.

[yjacket]

Can i ask something for the community?

20 questions is over. Read OP.

Can you save me 20 minutes of searching? Did you answer this question?

[Matthew N. Wright]

Can i ask something for the community?

20 questions is over. Read OP.

Can you save me 20 minutes of searching? Did you answer this question?

A billion times.

[bitcoiners]

Can i ask something for the community?

20 questions is over. Read OP.

Can you save me 20 minutes of searching? Did you answer this question?

Jesus, just read the fucking thread.

[Shadow383]

So, September 9th was the agreed on date, right?

[yjacket]

Can i ask something for the community?

20 questions is over. Read OP.

Can you save me 20 minutes of searching? Did you answer this question?

Jesus, just read the fucking thread.

Jesus, i just read through 8 pages. Unless i missed something big and are retarded(which is possible) i didn't see anything. Just post a link please.

[myrkul]

Jesus, i just read through 8 pages. Unless i missed something big and are retarded(which is possible) i didn't see anything. Just post a link please.

Since you evidently need it, the TL;DR version:

Matt would not have made the bet if he didn't think he would win.

That is all. All you need to know, all he's said. Check back on the 9th.

[yjacket]

Jesus, i just read through 8 pages. Unless i missed something big and are retarded(which is possible) i didn't see anything. Just post a link please.

Since you evidently need it, the TL;DR version:

Matt would not have made the bet if he didn't think he would win.

That is all. All you need to know, all he's said. Check back on the 9th.

So he didn't post  why he thinks pirate is legit. thanks.

[LightRider]

Jesus, i just read through 8 pages. Unless i missed something big and are retarded(which is possible) i didn't see anything. Just post a link please.

Since you evidently need it, the TL;DR version:

Matt would not have made the bet if he didn't think he would win.

That is all. All you need to know, all he's said. Check back on the 9th.

So he didn't post  why he thinks pirate is legit. thanks.

Because of his hubris.

[MrTeal]

Jesus, i just read through 8 pages. Unless i missed something big and are retarded(which is possible) i didn't see anything. Just post a link please.

Since you evidently need it, the TL;DR version:

Matt would not have made the bet if he didn't think he would win.

That is all. All you need to know, all he's said. Check back on the 9th.

So he didn't post  why he thinks pirate is legit. thanks.

Did you read the very first post in the actual bet thread?

[Bitcoin Oz]

It would have been more awesome to make it the 11th of september.