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September 07, 2012, 05:35:27 PM
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The gullibility enters the equation because you didn't escrow the bet.

Coming from one of Pirate's staunchest defenders, the hypocrisy is astounding. 

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September 07, 2012, 05:36:50 PM
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Most of Matt's detractors just kept their mouth shut about his inability to pay...

Which one is it?

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September 07, 2012, 05:38:19 PM
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The gullibility enters the equation because you didn't escrow the bet.

Coming from one of Pirate's staunchest defenders, the hypocrisy is astounding. 


What? Don't you like when others call you out for what you are? And you are surprised people got itchy with team ponzi and their war on pirate?
Funny, ain't it?
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September 07, 2012, 05:39:40 PM
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But you and almost everybody believes he will pay.

Uh, wut? How do you know that? Do you believe everyone who has placed a bet here that they are really willing to bet and aren't just trolling Matthew?
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September 07, 2012, 05:40:41 PM
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You guys even got satisfied when he moved 10k or 20k BTC from one address to other

I removed it cause I don't remember seeing that at all, and if I didn't see it it's likely a lot of people on the forum didn't see it so it doesn't factor in, cause I read almost all the drama threads when I'm bored on my phone. Almost as good as tv.

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September 07, 2012, 05:43:29 PM
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I read almost all the drama threads when I'm bored on my phone. Almost as good asBetter than tv.
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September 07, 2012, 05:48:51 PM
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The gullibility enters the equation because you didn't escrow the bet.

Coming from one of Pirate's staunchest defenders, the hypocrisy is astounding. 


What? Don't you like when others call you out for what you are? And you are surprised people got itchy with team ponzi and their war on pirate?
Funny, ain't it?

What is it I am exactly? You could call me gullible if I actually risked large amounts of money and if I  ever expected Matthew to pay.
I did neither, nor did anyone else.  The bet was won before it started .

Now, how much did team ponzi  bet on Pirate being legit?
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September 07, 2012, 05:54:17 PM
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People need to judge each transaction or offer as an individual entity, otherwise the only thing that the "poop rolling down hill" mob mentality will prove in the end is that bitcoin itself, is nothing more than a huge scam and in turn, a complete failure from an economic standpoint.
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If compounding and domino-effect fallout were to become the community standard, bitcoin as a whole would prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is nothing more than a pyramid scheme, a Ponzi scam and worst of all, completely centralized because of it's up-stream financial dependencies.

Lucky for us, the underlying mentality and purpose of Bitcoin is STILL "screw the banks" and "be your own bank." If some people want to invest their money with some risky scheme, that really only reflects poorly on the risky scheme, and the people doing the investing. The rest of us will happily continue holding our Bitcoin in safe storages, spending only what we need when we need it.
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September 07, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
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In the end, when pirate doesn't pay, Matthew will also not pay a single bet.

That will show to team ponzi that they are as gullible for trusting him to pay the bets as pirate investors were on trusting pirate.

That will teach Micon a lesson, that's for sure lol

I don't think most of Team Ponzi actually thought he was going to pay; it was obvious early on he was not serious. Most bets were placed by people harassed into "putting their money where their mouth is" by shills who spammed several threads and Ponzi scheme victims desperately trying to hedge their exposure.

And they're not out any money, so not really as gullible, no.
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September 07, 2012, 06:30:52 PM
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Matthew -- to me, your post suggests you have insider knowledge...how else could you know that goat's actions could actually affect pirate paying back his debtors? I mean, there is no obvious reason pirate needs info to pay people back now that he didn't need before...  Seems hard to connect the dots without knowing inside stuff...should i be disappointed in you?

Do you believe everything you see on the internet?

Indeed not.  I'm a physician -- I should hope I can do better Smiley

Anyhow, you didn't address the issue...your post and your words seem to imply you know the inner workings of the pirate scheme.  Is that true?  Or are you simply assuming that, for some reason, Goat's refusal to give Pirate info he never needed before is going to result in your losing the bet...It sure riled you up...

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September 07, 2012, 06:56:36 PM
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What I'm saying is, I lose zero credibility if Pirate doesn't pay out, whether Matthew pays his bet or not.

That doesn't make you less gullible or greedy...

You can say what you want about greed; sure I'd like to be a bazillionsaire, what else is new?

I really don't see where gullibility enters the equation. I'd have bet with anybody on this forum, how does that make me gullible?

The gullibility enters the equation because you didn't escrow the bet. And let me tell you, Matt is as gullible as the next guy, because he did just the same thing, trust any of us to pay up if we lose. Except he knows he will not win, so, people who bet him won't need to have the money to pay him. But you and almost everybody believes he will pay. You guys even got satisfied when he moved 10k or 20k BTC from one address to other, despite that being no guarantee of payment.
Most of Matt's detractors just kept their mouth shut about his inability to pay after that stunt.

Repeat with me: GULLIBLE.

I get your argument even though a lot of people don't seem to understand. You lost money through pirate and you spent a long time defending him all the while feeling as you were getting slapped with the gullibility card!

OK so I understand it's damaged your ego realizing you were wrong, and you want to slap those people back with a nonsensical argument but you have to admit the people warning you about the ponzi were on your side and had you pulled your head out of your bum and listened they would have saved you from your own greed and gullibility.

I don't think projecting your anger and failures away from pirate and onto the people that warned you is healthy mate. How much did you lose btw, and why are you so butthurt with Micon?
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September 07, 2012, 07:08:34 PM
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I am starting to understand the pattern of why some people's ignore link is highlighted...
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September 07, 2012, 07:41:59 PM
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I just saw the spreadsheet.  So the bet has almost doubled in 24 hours?  Is this officially a joke or something?

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September 07, 2012, 08:01:14 PM
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I just saw the spreadsheet.  So the bet has almost doubled in 24 hours?  Is this officially a joke or something?

Well it is funny...
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September 07, 2012, 08:20:24 PM
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I just saw the spreadsheet.  So the bet has almost doubled in 24 hours?  Is this officially a joke or something?

Yes, it's "official", Matthew is a joke - discussion thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106310.0
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September 07, 2012, 08:25:55 PM
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I have a feeling that payments will be going out this weekend, so I would advise everyone to get their bitcoins ready for payment to Matthew.

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September 07, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
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In the end, when pirate doesn't pay, Mtthew will also not pay a single bet.

That will show to all team ponzi that they are as gullible for trusting him to pay the bets as pirate investors were on trusting pirate.

No, not as gullible. Pirate "investors" actually *deposited* their coins. MNW bettors only pledged them in a forum statement.
On the other hand, it seems Pirate "investors" may have been making financial decisions on the assumption that Matthew will pay out. So there are some people that will have actual non-hypothetical losses if he doesn't pay out but Team Ponzi most likely aren't amongst them.

But you and almost everybody believes he will pay.
Personally, I've carefully refrained from commenting on whether I think he'll pay or not. There are some good reasons for this which you may be able to spot if you think about the issue.

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September 07, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
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Everybody calm down, after three sleepless nights, I think I finally have it all figured out. I must compliment Matthew here on his brillance, his scheme is actually pretty clever.

Matt came up with the bet at the time when everybody, sans select few still in denial, realized that it would take at least a miracle for Pirate to pay out, and he rightfully anticipated that lots of members will join in lured by what it essentaily is, free-money handout. People thought Matt was nuts and made few tasteless jokes at his expense, but make no mistake, he's no idiot, he knew full well that he was going to lose the bet. He also knew that he didn't have required bitcoins but these never had any role in his ingenious plan anyway. Here comes the brilliant part. Matt is secretly gay, he hopes that when it comes to payout, he will be able to subsidize bitcoin with another commodity to make bettors whole, blowjobs. For this reason initial pool of 10k BTC rose to 80k BTC after vigorous testing conducted to make sure Matt can accomodate $900k worth of blowjobs. The lesson is some men will do anything for a chance to choke on bag of dicks.

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September 07, 2012, 08:52:47 PM
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I have a feeling that payments will be going out this weekend, so I would advise everyone to get their bitcoins ready for payment to Matthew.

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Heh heh heh. I see what you did there.

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September 07, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
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Everybody calm down, after three sleepless nights, I think I finally have it all figured out. I must compliment Matthew here on his brillance, his scheme is actually pretty clever.

Matt came up with the bet at the time when everybody, sans select few still in denial, realized that it would take at least a miracle for Pirate to pay out, and he rightfully anticipated that lots of members will join in lured by what it essentaily is, free-money handout. People thought Matt was nuts and made few tasteless jokes at his expense, but make no mistake, he's no idiot, he knew full well that he was going to lose the bet. He also knew that he didn't have required bitcoins but these never had any role in his ingenious plan anyway. Here comes the brilliant part. Matt is secretly gay, he hopes that when it comes to payout, he will be able to subsidize bitcoin with another commodity to make bettors whole, blowjobs. For this reason initial pool of 10k BTC rose to 80k BTC after vigorous testing conducted to make sure Matt can accomodate $900k worth of blowjobs. The lesson is some men will do anything for a chance to choke on bag of dicks.

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