Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official)

[P4man]

Theymos gave him the tag. I'm sure theymos is not happy, given that he had a bet.

Thanks for me letting me know. You have to unignore him to see it .

[bitlane]

In all honestty though, I actually feel VIOLATED.

It's as if Matthew reached into my pocket and stole the Bitcoins right out from under me. This couldn't have come at a worse time, as I already spent the Bitcoins that I had planned to win, so in essence, he's not only a Scammer, but also a thief. Matthew stole my bitcoins.

[Draino]

so, did we learn our lesson?

[smoothie]

In all honestty though, I actually feel VIOLATED.

It's as if Matthew reached into my pocket and stole the Bitcoins right out from under me. This couldn't have come at a worse time, as I already spent the Bitcoins that I had planned to win, so in essence, he's not only a Scammer, but also a thief. Matthew stole my bitcoins.

How so did you spend them?

[smoothie]

so, did we learn our lesson?

Nope we didn't. His whole "lesson" was pointless. He is a liar, a scammer, and possibly a theif at this point.

Bitcoin Magazine....in my opinion should fire him. Well that might not change much. Being associated with him now will be bad for business with their magazine.

[bg002h]

In all honestty though, I actually feel VIOLATED.

It's as if Matthew reached into my pocket and stole the Bitcoins right out from under me. This couldn't have come at a worse time, as I already spent the Bitcoins that I had planned to win, so in essence, he's not only a Scammer, but also a thief. Matthew stole my bitcoins.

Not wise.

[bixcoin]

I can't believe there is actually a discussion about if Matthew did right. This is fraud as open as can be. No judge in the world would stand a second for Matthew. I am a fairly new forum member and I always thought either Matthew is a fraud or totally insane.
He was just backed up by so many other members that seemed to know him and trusted him that I considered he might just now something everybody else doesnt.
People are doing him too good in saying he wanted to teach a lesson. You can say that about every fraud. If I would have taken the bet I would defenitely consider criminal charges!
In general it just confirms that Bitcoin is still some geek thing with lots of premature guys having too much of it and falling for the simplest scams and then not even taking real actions against the fraudsters.
For me big parts of this forums seem a bit like kindergarten. Sorry for that, just some thoughts from an outsider.

[theymos]

Matthew committed fraud, plain and simple. While I'm personally only disappointed that I'm not getting 400 BTC, others used this bet as their main method of hedging against Pirate or made other investment decisions based on this bet because they trusted Matthew. Matthew has demonstrated that he is unworthy of anyone's trust.

I guess I was right the first time.

I have no confidence in [Matthew]'s sense of morality, and I will never trade with him.

[smoothie]

I can't believe there is actually a discussion about if Matthew did right. This is fraud as open as can be. No judge in the world would stand a second for Matthew. I am a fairly new forum member and I always thought either Matthew is a fraud or totally insane.
He was just backed up by so many other members that seemed to know him and trusted him that I considered he might just now something everybody else doesnt.
People are doing him too good in saying he wanted to teach a lesson. You can say that about every fraud. If I would have taken the bet I would defenitely consider criminal charges!
In general it just confirms that Bitcoin is still some geek thing with lots of premature guys having too much of it and falling for the simplest scams and then not even taking real actions against the fraudsters.
For me big parts of this forums seem a bit like kindergarten. Sorry for that, just some thoughts from an outsider.

At this point yes you are right its immature like kindergarten. We can thank Matthew for bringing that to this forum in such a retarded way.

[smoothie]

Matthew committed fraud, plain and simple. While I'm personally only disappointed that I'm not getting 400 BTC, others used this bet as their main method of hedging against Pirate or made other investment decisions based on this bet because they trusted Matthew. Matthew has demonstrated that he is unworthy of anyone's trust.

I guess I was right the first time.

I have no confidence in [Matthew]'s sense of morality, and I will never trade with him.

Please REMOVE him permanently from the staff of this forum.

Edit: He can be viewed as Atlas version #2. LOL

[jwzguy]

Yes. How about a permaban?

[Domrada]

The fact that he is associated with that magazine has lost it many potential subscriptions.

Are you kidding ? Who out of the trolls on this forum WOULD have subscribed to news that they all talk about on a daily basis on this forum ?

Bitcoin Magazine is not targeted to bitcointalk.org geeks and trolls. It's target is the REAL WORLD in an attempt to bring more people INTO the Bitcoin environment and introduce them to something new.

Nice try though.

Nice try? I know of about 7 personally. Probably more, but at least 7.

Yup this is spot on. When I first heard about the magazine I thought, "oh, what a great way to introduce people to bitcoin. I'll get 3 subscriptions, put one issue in the waiting area at my business, one at my office, and one on the coffee table at home.  But then I found out Matthew was behind it and changed my mind.  You can ignore people like me if you want, but the fact remains.

[bitlane]

In all honestty though, I actually feel VIOLATED.

It's as if Matthew reached into my pocket and stole the Bitcoins right out from under me. This couldn't have come at a worse time, as I already spent the Bitcoins that I had planned to win, so in essence, he's not only a Scammer, but also a thief. Matthew stole my bitcoins.

How so did you spend them?

Hookers, Blow....and I invested in another 'Long Term' offer. Unfortunately that offer turned out to be a passthrough to Pirate, so I got duped again !
(I hope you can tell that I am 500% joking about this all....lol)

[BorderBits]

So this is the fourth scam this week?  

[bg002h]

Matthew committed fraud, plain and simple. While I'm personally only disappointed that I'm not getting 400 BTC, others used this bet as their main method of hedging against Pirate or made other investment decisions based on this bet because they trusted Matthew. Matthew has demonstrated that he is unworthy of anyone's trust.

I guess I was right the first time.

I have no confidence in [Matthew]'s sense of morality, and I will never trade with him.

People give pirate 3 weeks to repay money he actually took (and he doesn't) while people give Matthew 3 hours to pay a bet he says he reserved the right to cancel....

People are too gullible. I'm sorry. This is all so silly.

We are supposed to be engaged in a revolution, and it's come to _this_???

[Inedible]

Wait, wait!


Is it too late to place a bet?

[Transisto]

Matthew committed fraud, plain and simple. While I'm personally only disappointed that I'm not getting 400 BTC, others used this bet as their main method of hedging against Pirate or made other investment decisions based on this bet because they trusted Matthew. Matthew has demonstrated that he is unworthy of anyone's trust.

I guess I was right the first time.

I have no confidence in [Matthew]'s sense of morality, and I will never trade with him.

People give pirate 3 weeks to repay money he actually took (and he doesn't) while people give Matthew 3 hours to pay a bet he says he reserved the right to cancel....

People are too gullible. I'm sorry. This is all so silly.

We are supposed to be engaged in a revolution, and it's come to _this_???

You missed the part where he said he wouldn't pay anything. But to http://blockchain.info/address/13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM

[flower1024]

Matthew committed fraud, plain and simple. While I'm personally only disappointed that I'm not getting 400 BTC, others used this bet as their main method of hedging against Pirate or made other investment decisions based on this bet because they trusted Matthew. Matthew has demonstrated that he is unworthy of anyone's trust.

I guess I was right the first time.

I have no confidence in [Matthew]'s sense of morality, and I will never trade with him.

+1

Is he still a staff member?

[DeathAndTaxes]

so, did we learn our lesson?

Well I didn't have a bet but I did learn that Matt is immature, irresponsible, and reckless.  I won't be trusting him or any person or company that associates with him.

Not sure if that was the lesson he was trying to teach.

[makomk]

Matthew committed fraud, plain and simple. While I'm personally only disappointed that I'm not getting 400 BTC, others used this bet as their main method of hedging against Pirate or made other investment decisions based on this bet because they trusted Matthew. Matthew has demonstrated that he is unworthy of anyone's trust.

I guess I was right the first time.

I have no confidence in [Matthew]'s sense of morality, and I will never trade with him.

Quoted for truth. What's more, Matthew not only knowingly accepted bets from people he knew were relying on them to hedge their BS&T investment, but was even specifically advertising that they could be used for that purpose.