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April 22, 2015, 12:35:17 PM
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which is best pool ?

which paying many bitcoin in earning ?

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April 22, 2015, 01:01:15 PM
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All things being equal you will earn the same amount of coin no matter which pool you choose.  Things are not equal though.  Some pools have fees.  Some are not ideally suited to the miner - example they are on the other side of the planet.  Some are poorly written.  Some are poorly connected.

I suggest you look through this forum and read the pool threads.  Figure out what works best for you and make your decision.

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April 22, 2015, 01:06:52 PM
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I just tett me whichbl paying many bitcoin in moning ?

I want earning s3 in day 0.004.

I was antpool and one day i got 0.002  thos nunber is very low

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April 22, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
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As people have indicated in other threads:

- You need to run your S3 the 24 hours of the day. If you run it 16 hours --> 0.00026
- You need to run your S3 at least 2 full days to have stable payments. Pools pay depending on how did you participated in the previous xx hours (xx depends on the pool).

Example: a pool pays your participation in the last 20 hours. So if you have been mining with them only 5 hours you will recieve only a 25% of what you expect. Yo have to be mining FULL 20 hours and then you will start to see your correct payments.

I think you still don't understand what represents the luck of a pool, so I will try to make it very simple with an example:


*\__/ The example \__/*

Imagine you are in a casino, playing with a 20-sided dice. You will roll the dice each 10 minutes:



Antpool (a big pool) says --> "If you obtain a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, I will pay you $10"
Ghash (a small pool) says ---> "If you obtain a 6, I will pay you $50"
Note: $10 and $50 are just examples

Which is better??? Both are the same! They pay you the same amount corresponding to the probability you have to win with them.

With Antpool, you have small but frequent payments. With Ghash you you have unfrequent, but big payments.

But if you play with any of them during a week you will see the same payment

That is the important thing: You have to stay with your pool at least a FULL WEEK, mining 24 hours/day to see how much is really paying you. Stand a week with Antpool, and you will see on average your desired 0.0004btc/day

More clear now?
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April 22, 2015, 02:14:31 PM
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You have to look at the fees and the orphan history to determine your expected long term payment
(assuming the pool is paying you what they say they will)

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April 22, 2015, 03:47:59 PM
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As people have indicated in other threads:

- You need to run your S3 the 24 hours of the day. If you run it 16 hours --> 0.00026
- You need to run your S3 at least 2 full days to have stable payments. Pools pay depending on how did you participated in the previous xx hours (xx depends on the pool).

Example: a pool pays your participation in the last 20 hours. So if you have been mining with them only 5 hours you will recieve only a 25% of what you expect. Yo have to be mining FULL 20 hours and then you will start to see your correct payments.

I think you still don't understand what represents the luck of a pool, so I will try to make it very simple with an example:


*\__/ The example \__/*

Imagine you are in a casino, playing with a 20-sided dice. You will roll the dice each 10 minutes:

http://www.gmdice.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/2/d20-giant-brushed-steel.jpg[/img]

Antpool (a big pool) says --> "If you obtain a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, I will pay you $10"
Ghash (a small pool) says ---> "If you obtain a 6, I will pay you $50"
Note: $10 and $50 are just examples

Which is better??? Both are the same! They pay you the same amount corresponding to the probability you have to win with them.

With Antpool, you have small but frequent payments. With Ghash you you have unfrequent, but big payments.

But if you play with any of them during a week you will see the same payment

That is the important thing: You have to stay with your pool at least a FULL WEEK, mining 24 hours/day to see how much is really paying you. Stand a week with Antpool, and you will see on average your desired 0.0004btc/day

More clear now?


Thanks man.
You are good man.

I advice .

Only one question have.

I that was on antpool 1 week full 24h after will be stable paying and i every 24h will i get 0.004 ??

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April 22, 2015, 04:24:50 PM
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Why should was one week? For lucky ?

If what ?

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April 22, 2015, 05:00:55 PM
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Why should was one week? For lucky ?

If what ?
The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize.  You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours.  For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.

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April 22, 2015, 05:09:19 PM
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Why should was one week? For lucky ?

If what ?
The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize.  You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours.  For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.

Maybe that 2 minute turn off and after turn on ?

If dont maybe ?

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April 22, 2015, 05:14:46 PM
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Why should was one week? For lucky ?

If what ?
The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize.  You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours.  For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.

Maybe that 2 minute turn off and after turn on ?

If dont maybe ?
While I don't truly understand what you're asking, my guess is that you're wondering if turning your miner off and on will have any effect.  The answer is that the only effect it will have is that you aren't hashing for 2 minutes.  Each and every single hash produced by your miner has an equal chance at being the one that solves a block.  There is no such thing as historical influence playing any role in future actions.  Each and every hash is independent.

Point your gear to a pool and let it ride.  Look at the stats.  If something is wrong, like extremely high reject rates, then you have to evaluate if it's your gear, or the pool that has the problem.

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April 22, 2015, 05:22:56 PM
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Why should was one week? For lucky ?

If what ?
The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize.  You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours.  For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.

Maybe that 2 minute turn off and after turn on ?

If dont maybe ?
While I don't truly understand what you're asking, my guess is that you're wondering if turning your miner off and on will have any effect.  The answer is that the only effect it will have is that you aren't hashing for 2 minutes.  Each and every single hash produced by your miner has an equal chance at being the one that solves a block.  There is no such thing as historical influence playing any role in future actions.  Each and every hash is independent.

Point your gear to a pool and let it ride.  Look at the stats.  If something is wrong, like extremely high reject rates, then you have to evaluate if it's your gear, or the pool that has the problem.

Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ?

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April 22, 2015, 05:23:26 PM
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You have to look at the fees and the orphan history to determine your expected long term payment

If these are the only criteria, then I'd argue P2Pool is the winner hands down Wink

Edit: @ToQcHista check out P2Pool.org, especially the "read this first" part....
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April 22, 2015, 05:26:53 PM
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You have to look at the fees and the orphan history to determine your expected long term payment

If these are the only criteria, then I'd argue P2Pool is the winner hands down Wink

Edit: @ToQcHista check out P2Pool.org, especially the "read this first" part....

I want attpool but interested me i that long time runing miner after coming soon about 1 week , i will get every day 0.004 ?

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April 22, 2015, 05:34:13 PM
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Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ?
No.  You can turn your miner off for 2 minutes.  The only effect will be that you have 2 minutes of not mining.  Will there be any effect on your payout?  Sure... but it's pretty minimal since 2 minutes is a pretty small percentage of a day.

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April 22, 2015, 06:00:06 PM
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Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ?
No.  You can turn your miner off for 2 minutes.  The only effect will be that you have 2 minutes of not mining.  Will there be any effect on your payout?  Sure... but it's pretty minimal since 2 minutes is a pretty small percentage of a day.

Okey. Thanks man.

So , i wait one week turn on miner that after i will get  every day 0.004btc

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April 22, 2015, 06:13:53 PM
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Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ?
No.  You can turn your miner off for 2 minutes.  The only effect will be that you have 2 minutes of not mining.  Will there be any effect on your payout?  Sure... but it's pretty minimal since 2 minutes is a pretty small percentage of a day.

Okey. Thanks man.

So , i wait one week turn on miner that after i will get  every day 0.004btc
No... I don't think you're understanding this.  I posted a reply to you in another thread that I will post here as well:

Even but 100% was that my s3 was raning.

What do i ? That i will get 0.004btc ?
You need to understand how this whole thing works.  When you look at mining calculators, they are providing you an expected value.  They simply say, "Given the probability of finding X shares in Y time, you would expect to earn Z coins".  The simplified version of the formula they all use is:
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25 / (Network Diff * 2^32 / hash rate per second / 86400) = number of coins you earn in a day
Using an S3 as an example, and with current network difficulty of 47610564513:
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25 / (47610564513 * 2^32 / 440000000000 / 86400) = 0.00464776 BTC
There are a whole host of factors that influence that value in reality.  Pool luck, rejected shares, orphaned blocks, pool fees, etc all represent factors that affect your actual earnings vs your expected earnings.

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April 22, 2015, 06:40:18 PM
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I cant undertand .

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So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ?

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April 22, 2015, 06:49:55 PM
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I cant undertand .

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So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ?
It means that you aren't guaranteed to get that amount.  Some days you'll get less.  Some days you might get more.  There are a lot of things that determine what you get in actuality vs what the mining calculators say you should expect.

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April 22, 2015, 06:52:58 PM
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I cant undertand .

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So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ?
It means that you aren't guaranteed to get that amount.  Some days you'll get less.  Some days you might get more.  There are a lot of things that determine what you get in actuality vs what the mining calculators say you should expect.

Yes . i guess but if lucky was good.
One week that passes , i will get about 0.0035-0.004.  ??

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April 22, 2015, 06:54:31 PM
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Please tell me else.

Why should was turn on moner one week ?

What happens ? That passes 1 week ?

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