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April 26, 2015, 11:29:27 AM
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Just found very large transaction fee, it is in Block 353672, but I can't locate the exact transaction



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April 26, 2015, 11:37:33 AM
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Well the miners definitely appreciate this. I'm going to assume that someone made a mistake while sending a transaction.
This has happened in the past, nothing new. It's easier to type 100 instead of 0.100 than you think.

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April 26, 2015, 11:44:29 AM
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98 BTC fee - very generous! could be satoshi himself.

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April 26, 2015, 11:47:33 AM
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This one...

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/860e4e6bc2b846f00a1660dcb49d84a00dcd7b87ba23100e836dfb682249a807

85.89984592 BTC mining fee paid to transfer 16.37152845 BTC.
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April 26, 2015, 11:51:35 AM
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Well the miners definitely appreciate this. I'm going to assume that someone made a mistake while sending a transaction.
This has happened in the past, nothing new. It's easier to type 100 instead of 0.100 than you think.

I think the wallet app should warn for abnormal very large transaction fee or even don't allow it.
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April 26, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
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Well the miners definitely appreciate this. I'm going to assume that someone made a mistake while sending a transaction.
This has happened in the past, nothing new. It's easier to type 100 instead of 0.100 than you think.

I think the wallet app should warn for abnormal very large transaction fee or even don't allow it.

Seems the problem was because of some error at BitGo's end. Here is more details from the victim...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33u2id/help_losing_over_85_btc_because_of_bitgos_flawed/

Ethically AntPool may return the amount.

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April 26, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
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Well the miners definitely appreciate this. I'm going to assume that someone made a mistake while sending a transaction.
This has happened in the past, nothing new. It's easier to type 100 instead of 0.100 than you think.

I think the wallet app should warn for abnormal very large transaction fee or even don't allow it.

Seems the culprit is BitGo. Here is more details from the victim...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33u2id/help_losing_over_85_btc_because_of_bitgos_flawed/

Ethically AntPool may return the amount.
sure... "Ethically" they should be..  Roll Eyes
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April 26, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
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sure... "Ethically" they should be..  Roll Eyes

Probably they will be...

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BitMain/AntPool and BitGo are in contact wrt resolving this erroneous transaction fee. BitGo's CTO personally contacted me and has assured the loss will be recovered. A rep for BitMain has also expressed confidence that the excess fee will be returned.

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April 26, 2015, 11:57:39 AM
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Well the miners definitely appreciate this. I'm going to assume that someone made a mistake while sending a transaction.
This has happened in the past, nothing new. It's easier to type 100 instead of 0.100 than you think.

I think the wallet app should warn for abnormal very large transaction fee or even don't allow it.

Seems the problem was because of some error at BitGo's end. Here is more details from the victim...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33u2id/help_losing_over_85_btc_because_of_bitgos_flawed/

Ethically AntPool may return the amount.

Good to know, seems happy ending!
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April 26, 2015, 12:00:21 PM
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Could this be a mistake? I can't think of many wallets that would actually confuse users into sending such a transaction. Could this actually be a generous individual?

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April 26, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
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Well the miners definitely appreciate this. I'm going to assume that someone made a mistake while sending a transaction.
This has happened in the past, nothing new. It's easier to type 100 instead of 0.100 than you think.

I think the wallet app should warn for abnormal very large transaction fee or even don't allow it.
Well you should suggest it. That would be a nice safety feature, because if the block gets mined by 'unknown' one can forget about his money.
I think a warning would be more appropriate. Like a box asking you to confirm when the fee is very high.

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April 26, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
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Just found very large transaction fee, it is in Block 353672, but I can't locate the exact transaction





Another hacked exchange or merchant and is trying to get BTC out as quick as possible...?

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April 26, 2015, 12:06:53 PM
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Same thing happened before and the block founder pool was ghash.io and they returned the amount
Check here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0

This guy is lucky that he came across to good will pools.


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April 26, 2015, 12:21:04 PM
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Same thing happened before and the block founder pool was ghash.io and they returned the amount
Check here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0

This guy is lucky that he came across to good will pools.

wallet apps are user unfriendly, it is one of reason that Bitcoin could not get popular.
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April 26, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
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Same thing happened before and the block founder pool was ghash.io and they returned the amount
Check here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0

This guy is lucky that he came across to good will pools.

wallet apps are user unfriendly, it is one of reason that Bitcoin could not get popular.

But what app would make it confusing enough for someone to mistake the transaction fee with the amount to be sent? Wouldn't someone that owns so much BTC already know the difference.

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April 26, 2015, 12:26:33 PM
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Could this be a mistake? I can't think of many wallets that would actually confuse users into sending such a transaction. Could this actually be a generous individual?

Yes of course, it is only a mistake.

Same thing happened before and the block founder pool was ghash.io and they returned the amount
Check here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0

This guy is lucky that he came across to good will pools.

wallet apps are user unfriendly, it is one of reason that Bitcoin could not get popular.

But what app would make it confusing enough for someone to mistake the transaction fee with the amount to be sent? Wouldn't someone that owns so much BTC already know the difference.

I do not think it was intentional, who is so intelligent to put 85 btc as fee?
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April 26, 2015, 12:31:25 PM
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This one...

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/860e4e6bc2b846f00a1660dcb49d84a00dcd7b87ba23100e836dfb682249a807

85.89984592 BTC mining fee paid to transfer 16.37152845 BTC.


sender wants to be on the safe side. now he can be sure his BTC arrived.  Grin

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April 26, 2015, 12:34:16 PM
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This one...

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/860e4e6bc2b846f00a1660dcb49d84a00dcd7b87ba23100e836dfb682249a807

85.89984592 BTC mining fee paid to transfer 16.37152845 BTC.


sender wants to be on the safe side. now he can be sure his BTC arrived.  Grin

 Cheesy

This probably made up for all the 'low' and '0' Fee transactions Miners allowed to go through.

 

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April 26, 2015, 12:41:26 PM
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Could this be a mistake? I can't think of many wallets that would actually confuse users into sending such a transaction. Could this actually be a generous individual?

Yes of course, it is only a mistake.

Same thing happened before and the block founder pool was ghash.io and they returned the amount
Check here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0

This guy is lucky that he came across to good will pools.

wallet apps are user unfriendly, it is one of reason that Bitcoin could not get popular.

But what app would make it confusing enough for someone to mistake the transaction fee with the amount to be sent? Wouldn't someone that owns so much BTC already know the difference.

I do not think it was intentional, who is so intelligent to put 85 btc as fee?

High transaction fee is almost useless. It does not make next new block generation be faster, but just affects miners whether to include your transaction into next block to be generated. I think high transaction fee should be disallowed in wallet app to prevent  money loss from typo or other careless mistakes
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April 26, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
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Could this be a mistake? I can't think of many wallets that would actually confuse users into sending such a transaction. Could this actually be a generous individual?

Yes of course, it is only a mistake.

Same thing happened before and the block founder pool was ghash.io and they returned the amount
Check here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602152.0

This guy is lucky that he came across to good will pools.

wallet apps are user unfriendly, it is one of reason that Bitcoin could not get popular.

But what app would make it confusing enough for someone to mistake the transaction fee with the amount to be sent? Wouldn't someone that owns so much BTC already know the difference.

I do not think it was intentional, who is so intelligent to put 85 btc as fee?

High transaction fee is almost useless. It does not make next new block generation be faster, but just affects miners whether to include your transaction into next block to be generated. I think high transaction fee should be disallowed in wallet app to prevent  money loss from typo or other careless mistakes

In that case I agree with you, maybe a double confirm before send the bitcoin transaction. I think it is really necessary and can prevent this type of mistake.
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