Gaming on the Blockchain

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

Director Andrew Wagner has been running a series of reviews of cryptocurrency, blockchain, and decentralization-based video games. It's called Gaming on the Blockchain; the first review is of Moonga, which is putting its online trading cards on the Bitcoin blockchain as smart property. The long-term goal is to provide comprehensive coverage of this nascent industry, which includes all of the following installments:

• Moonga Review
• Munne Project Review
• Spells of Genesis Preview
• The Huntercoin Saga

UPDATE: all articles are now listed at www.blockchaingaming.com, in addition to others and video/audio clips. If someone asks you for a quick link to information to learn about decentralized video games, give 'em that.

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[Amph]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

[Amph]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

[Kprawn]

They going to use Counterparty protocol - http://counterparty.io/ and it's currency is called, Bitcrystals { http://www.spellsofgenesis.com/users/faq } Only 100,000,000 BitCrystal will be produced of which 70,000,000 (70%) will be available for purchase in the token sale.

It's a start, but I would have preferred them using only Bitcoin, not some other weird derivative.

Also a pity that Apple would get such a huge share of their earnings. {About 30% of all game packs sold}
 

[yodark]

Hi Everyone !

Yodark from SOG here.

Also a pity that Apple would get such a huge share of their earnings. {About 30% of all game packs sold}

Yes Google and Apple take 30% it's an important part but largely covered by the payment convenience and the large amount of user driven by these plateform. This is the reason many game publisher are going on mobile because they are generating large amount of revenue. In our case if we are not allowing people to buy with the store system
1. We won't be able to publish the game on AppStore and Google play.
2. We will cut out large amount of revenue from people who will not use another mean of payment. Ultimately it's less beneficial for us and bitcrystal owners.

It's a start, but I would have preferred them using only Bitcoin, not some other weird derivative.

As The Bitcoin Co-op mentioned players who own digital assets will use bitcoin in other to exchange their game assets. The reason we are using Counterparty and not making our own minable currency it's because we want to use bitcoin. Counterparty works on the top of bitcoin blockchain. If you have for example the "red dragon" as a digital asset in fact we are tagging some satoshi saying this satoshi represents "red dragon". Then you can use the bitcoin protocol to trade the red dragon among the players. In order to make a transaction with the counterparty asset you need to pay the miner fee in bitcoin.
This way it will be very simple for bitcoin owner to to acquire game assets and players will have to understand (or at least) use bitcoin to play trade in game. They are going to learn more about BTC.

For bitcrystal it's our asset for the crowdsale on counterparty. It's not a bitcoin competitor since it's also on bitcoin blockchain. It the required asset to get premium in game. If a player wants to use the AppStore or PlayStore we are going to burn their value that we buy back from bakers. But of course they will be on sale for BTC. Any bitcoin owner will be able to buy them for BTC and bypass the stores. This way it will be more advantageous to buy with bitcoin. Player will be then incentivised to understand bitcoin and to get some in order to get cheaper stuff.
Since bitcrystal asset are limited their value will reflect the games popularity. The more player will be willing to buy game asset the higher will be the value of bitcrystal and to lower will be the price (in bitcrystal but same in USD) of stuff.

This way, bakers and early fan are part of the project success and incentivised to talk about the game. Because the more player will play the more stuff they are going to get in game.

To summarise in few words. If spells of Genesis is a success the benefit will be

1. Project bakers will be rewarded
2. Bitcoin will be more accessible to mainstream users since user will be willing to have some to be able to trade
3. Bitcoin and counterparty trading activity will rise

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Yes we are among the first one doing this. The long term vision is if SOG experiment is sucessfull to use our technology to create a platform that allows game devellopers to make their decentralised assets games



 

[fertine]

bitcrystals for free

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

[Amevalentine]

To summarise in few words. If spells of Genesis is a success the benefit will be

1. Project bakers will be rewarded
2. Bitcoin will be more accessible to mainstream users since user will be willing to have some to be able to trade
3. Bitcoin and counterparty trading activity will rise

Yes we are among the first one doing this. The long term vision is if SOG experiment is sucessfull to use our technology to create a platform that allows game devellopers to make their decentralised assets games

I like this develop off bitcoin expand.
yes. since the user of mobile gaming apps increase, it is worthy of attention by bitcoin to get into the market.
and deserves to be in support.

[pereira4]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Bitcoin is perfect for the simple android games that are very addicting like the flappy bird type, to give top scorers a nice reward. The problem is the bloat of the blockchain with too many micropayments.

[Mayuyu48]

As a gamer, i always interested with gaming project related with bitcoin
okay at the first we only see card game, who knows in the future we will see RPG or MMORPG using bitcoin as their main currency
That would be interesting for gamer and bitcoin addict

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Bitcoin is perfect for the simple android games that are very addicting like the flappy bird type, to give top scorers a nice reward. The problem is the bloat of the blockchain with too many micropayments.

This problem can be solved with using bitcoin collector / micro wallet to collect temporary bitcoin obtained, and withdraw it when pass withdraw threshold

[BillyBobZorton]

As a gamer, i always interested with gaming project related with bitcoin
okay at the first we only see card game, who knows in the future we will see RPG or MMORPG using bitcoin as their main currency
That would be interesting for gamer and bitcoin addict

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Bitcoin is perfect for the simple android games that are very addicting like the flappy bird type, to give top scorers a nice reward. The problem is the bloat of the blockchain with too many micropayments.

This problem can be solved with using bitcoin collector / micro wallet to collect temporary bitcoin obtained, and withdraw it when pass withdraw threshold

True, even tho it feels both safer and just "good" to receive your coins instantly and directly into your personal wallet, so you don't have to do that process every so often.
Of course this seems inconvenient with the current block size limit...

[Amph]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

something along the line of huntercoin, would be great already it's strategic enough for me, but with bitcoin as a currency

you think that it will possible in the future to put a complex game like battlefield in the blockchain?

[MakingMoneyHoney]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

something along the line of huntercoin, would be great already it's strategic enough for me, but with bitcoin as a currency

you think that it will possible in the future to put a complex game like battlefield in the blockchain?

There are a few games for earning HYPER... you play the games, get points, trade the points in for HYPER. (1 game is for HYPER only, the other is HYPER, EMC2, MOON, FLAP, CCB, BRD, and GoldPieces)

http://makingmoneyhoney.com/games4cryptos.htm

I'd love to add more games that could be played for Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency too. I'm not into gambling, and I wouldn't really count gambling for cryptos gaming. Gaming implies skill mattering in how well you do and how much crypto you get. These games (in the above link) take skill to get more, faster, than someone else, and it's better than using HYPER faucets, by far.

As far as Huntercoin, I did look into it once, but needing to have some in your wallet to play stopped me once, and I looked into it a second time, thinking of getting some of an exchange, but noticed users complained about bots, and I didn't really look any farther than that.

[Amph]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

something along the line of huntercoin, would be great already it's strategic enough for me, but with bitcoin as a currency

you think that it will possible in the future to put a complex game like battlefield in the blockchain?

There are a few games for earning HYPER... you play the games, get points, trade the points in for HYPER. (1 game is for HYPER only, the other is HYPER, EMC2, MOON, FLAP, CCB, BRD, and GoldPieces)

http://makingmoneyhoney.com/games4cryptos.htm

I'd love to add more games that could be played for Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency too. I'm not into gambling, and I wouldn't really count gambling for cryptos gaming. Gaming implies skill mattering in how well you do and how much crypto you get. These games (in the above link) take skill to get more, faster, than someone else, and it's better than using HYPER faucets, by far.

As far as Huntercoin, I did look into it once, but needing to have some in your wallet to play stopped me once, and I looked into it a second time, thinking of getting some of an exchange, but noticed users complained about bots, and I didn't really look any farther than that.

ah yeah i know about hyper, i tryed to earn some of those coin by playing cs go, it was fun, but not so remunerative

for huntercoin you could just buy them if you want to play, they are really cheap right now

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

something along the line of huntercoin, would be great already it's strategic enough for me, but with bitcoin as a currency

you think that it will possible in the future to put a complex game like battlefield in the blockchain?

It would be trivially easy to place game rewards such as new weapons or medals on the blockchain as smart property, and record your kill/death ratio, total score, and other stats via ledger applications such as Factom. Placing the entire game on the blockchain is unnecessary, however, because first person shooters do not generally take place in a single and consistent online world. Hackers have very little incentive to target your 30-minute team match.

All MMO games, however, will be heavily reliant on blockchain technology. In persistent worlds like EVE Online or World of Warcraft, altering the environment has lasting consequences, and the current solution of a powerful central server has obvious flaws that we probably don't need to explain to users of BitcoinTalk.org. Blizzard and its competitors are already researching the issue, guaranteed.

[ashour]

I think that gaming and blockchain technology would build interesting and unique platforms and applications allowing financial freedom fro gamers.

[ashour]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

something along the line of huntercoin, would be great already it's strategic enough for me, but with bitcoin as a currency

you think that it will possible in the future to put a complex game like battlefield in the blockchain?

It would be trivially easy to place game rewards such as new weapons or medals on the blockchain as smart property, and record your kill/death ratio, total score, and other stats via ledger applications such as Factom. Placing the entire game on the blockchain is unnecessary, however, because first person shooters do not generally take place in a single and consistent online world. Hackers have very little incentive to target your 30-minute team match.

All MMO games, however, will be heavily reliant on blockchain technology. In persistent worlds like EVE Online or World of Warcraft, altering the environment has lasting consequences, and the current solution of a powerful central server has obvious flaws that we probably don't need to explain to users of BitcoinTalk.org. Blizzard and its competitors are already researching the issue, guaranteed.

Many games will probably be relied on the blockchain tech but the question is how are they going to use the blockhain technology ? Huge gaming companies could already be working on  blockchain alternatives.

[Mayuyu48]

As a gamer, i always interested with gaming project related with bitcoin
okay at the first we only see card game, who knows in the future we will see RPG or MMORPG using bitcoin as their main currency
That would be interesting for gamer and bitcoin addict

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Bitcoin is perfect for the simple android games that are very addicting like the flappy bird type, to give top scorers a nice reward. The problem is the bloat of the blockchain with too many micropayments.

This problem can be solved with using bitcoin collector / micro wallet to collect temporary bitcoin obtained, and withdraw it when pass withdraw threshold

True, even tho it feels both safer and just "good" to receive your coins instantly and directly into your personal wallet, so you don't have to do that process every so often.
Of course this seems inconvenient with the current block size limit...

yeah but too many people annoyed with that "dust"
it will make our transaction size bigger and need more fees for it
I think if that is small amount of bitcoin, user will use "micro wallet" method, but if we talk about big amount of bitcoin, we will use direct and instant withdrawal to our wallet

[MakingMoneyHoney]

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system like, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

something along the line of huntercoin, would be great already it's strategic enough for me, but with bitcoin as a currency

you think that it will possible in the future to put a complex game like battlefield in the blockchain?

There are a few games for earning HYPER... you play the games, get points, trade the points in for HYPER. (1 game is for HYPER only, the other is HYPER, EMC2, MOON, FLAP, CCB, BRD, and GoldPieces)

http://makingmoneyhoney.com/games4cryptos.htm

I'd love to add more games that could be played for Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency too. I'm not into gambling, and I wouldn't really count gambling for cryptos gaming. Gaming implies skill mattering in how well you do and how much crypto you get. These games (in the above link) take skill to get more, faster, than someone else, and it's better than using HYPER faucets, by far.

As far as Huntercoin, I did look into it once, but needing to have some in your wallet to play stopped me once, and I looked into it a second time, thinking of getting some of an exchange, but noticed users complained about bots, and I didn't really look any farther than that.

ah yeah i know about hyper, i tryed to earn some of those coin by playing cs go, it was fun, but not so remunerative

for huntercoin you could just buy them if you want to play, they are really cheap right now

It is a delicate balance of getting enough to make it worth it and the hosts not paying too much out for too many people because the games are free to play. But as it is, the Dragon Knight & Hyper Wars are worth it, IMHO. If you're out there doing faucets anyway, because you get way more and can actually enjoy playing.

Also, HYPER stakes, so whatever you get can turn into more even if you do nothing for a while.