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April 28, 2015, 07:00:19 PM
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... phony trust ...

I assure you, my trust is 100% real.  I have earned it, and now I'm making it available those who can afford it.
Save up your Satoshis, don't drug or gamble, and someday you'll be able to buy some Trust of your own.
And I'll be ready to sell it to you.

In the meantime, I thank you in advance for GTFO my thread.



Okay, but if we suppose that Alice will buy a positive from Bob (he is in the defaultTrust list | 2). After Alice will tell that Bob is selling positive trust... what do you think it will happen?
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April 28, 2015, 07:03:35 PM
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You shouldnt be selling trust ratings at all. This will only get your default trust removed and/or banned. Abusing the trust system is not allowed(I think)
But if you really want that, post it into digital goods or services (Marketplace)

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April 28, 2015, 07:07:44 PM
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... phony trust ...

I assure you, my trust is 100% real.  I have earned it, and now I'm making it available those who can afford it.
Save up your Satoshis, don't drug or gamble, and someday you'll be able to buy some Trust of your own.
And I'll be ready to sell it to you.

In the meantime, I thank you in advance for GTFO my thread.





If it is real then you are 100% an asshole.

I was convinced you were just trolling and poking a bit of fun.   I mean who could be so dumb as to not know where to put something for sale and choose Meta?  Anyone with anything more than a brain stem rolling around in their head could figure out that this is not the proper category.

but you insist otherwise, so at your insistence, now you're simply a piece of shit.

or a troll

or what results when a troll and a piece of shit mate.



whatever the case, I think I'll hang for a while.  how much is this phony trust anyhow?  If you're going to sell something you need to hone that sales pitch a bit I think.  and I am here to help.

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April 28, 2015, 07:12:20 PM
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Okay, but if we suppose that Alice will buy a positive from Bob (he is in the defaultTrust list | 2). After Alice will tell that Bob is selling positive trust... what do you think it will happen?

Why should anything happen?  The Trust is mine, I have earned it, I can do with it as I choose, so I sell it.
There are no rules against selling Trust, I have delineated some plausible scenarios how bought trust could be used ethically, so not sure what your objection is?

What happens to Bob, a seller of trusted accounts, if Alice decides to rat him out?
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April 28, 2015, 07:15:10 PM
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Why should anything happen?  The Trust is mine, I have earned it, I can do with it as I choose, so I sell it.
There are no rules against selling Trust, I have delineated some plausible scenarios how bought trust could be used ethically, so not sure what your objection is?

What happens to Bob, a seller of trusted accounts, if Alice decides to rat him out?

Thats for whoever gave you your trust to decide. If you earn trust and then scam somebody, well you earned your trust previously, why should you lose it? Trust is a dynamic thing, if the person who added you to default trust no longer trusts you because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust. If the person who trusted you doesn't take action, then the person who trusted them can take action, etc etc.
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April 28, 2015, 07:19:55 PM
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You shouldnt be selling trust ratings at all. This will only get your default trust removed and/or banned. Abusing the trust system is not allowed(I think)
But if you really want that, post it into digital goods or services (Marketplace)

Selling trust is not against the forum rules.  If it was a bad thing, theymos would have made a rule against it.
That said, you are posting to up your post count, and I'm happy to legitimize your comment with a reply.
Remember my kindness, and consider purchasing Trust from BespokeServicesLTD when you feel you can afford it.
Thank you.
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April 28, 2015, 07:22:26 PM
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You shouldnt be selling trust ratings at all. This will only get your default trust removed and/or banned. Abusing the trust system is not allowed(I think)
But if you really want that, post it into digital goods or services (Marketplace)

Selling trust is not against the forum rules.  If it was a bad thing, theymos would have made a rule against it.
That said, you are posting to up your post count, and I'm happy to legitimize your comment with a reply.
Remember my kindness, and consider purchasing Trust from BespokeServicesLTD when you feel you can afford it.
Thank you.
How much are you charging? I might know someone who is interested if the price is right.
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April 28, 2015, 07:26:32 PM
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...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

...How much are you charging? I might know someone who is interested if the price is right.

I'm sad to say BespokeServicesLTD is not of yet prosperous enough to start enabling our direct competitors.
Soon.
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April 28, 2015, 07:37:44 PM
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...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. The chances of you being removed from default trust by whoever added you in the first place when they find out you are selling trust is incredibly high. And if they don't, whoever added that person to default trust may re evaluate based on that person's inaction.

That said, I do believe this is all a hypothetical situation, because anyone actually on default trust understands how it works better than what you are displaying. Not to say that this hypothetical question isn't worth addressing.
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April 28, 2015, 07:46:05 PM
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...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. ...

Yes, and selling accounts is also "frowned upon," or "discouraged."  And yet... default trust members are selling with one hand and neg repping with the other, creating demand for more trusted accounts.

Pretty sure I'll do OK here, have solid grasp on how the trust system works Smiley

*BTW, Haven't answered my question: why is selling my Trust somehow shadier than selling a trusted account? 
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April 28, 2015, 07:56:05 PM
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...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. ...

Yes, and selling accounts is also "frowned upon," or "discouraged."  And yet... default trust members are selling with one hand and neg repping with the other, creating demand for more trusted accounts.

Pretty sure I'll do OK here, have solid grasp on how the trust system works Smiley

*BTW, Haven't answered my question: why is selling my Trust somehow shadier than selling a trusted account? 

If selling accounts was frowned upon or discouraged, more people would leave account sellers negative feedback. People are welcome to if they wish. And I did answer your question, in response, I said, "I didn't say that" in regards to selling trusted accounts being less shady than selling trust. People are welcome to do what they will with their own opinions.
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April 28, 2015, 08:09:18 PM
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If selling accounts was frowned upon or discouraged, more people would leave account sellers negative feedback. ...

From the unofficial list of unofficial not rules but suggestions to be interpreted however you wish:
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
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Yeah, I guess all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

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April 28, 2015, 08:18:55 PM
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If you start selling trusts, it would simply beat the purpose of the system. Wouldn't be surprised if thermos takes it down soon. Tongue
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April 28, 2015, 08:33:48 PM
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...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. ...

Yes, and selling accounts is also "frowned upon," or "discouraged."  And yet... default trust members are selling with one hand and neg repping with the other, creating demand for more trusted accounts.

Pretty sure I'll do OK here, have solid grasp on how the trust system works Smiley

*BTW, Haven't answered my question: why is selling my Trust somehow shadier than selling a trusted account? 


The obvious difference is that a person can sell one account that is now one bastardized account.

Doing this we have geometrically more bastardized accounts.

And "they're doing it" is nothing more than whining that anyone over the age of 10 realizes is juvenile justification. 

What you are proposing is wrong.  you know it and so does everyone else.  potentially helping people to scam people is aiding in that scam, regardless of what the forum rules are or who is doing this or that.

you are responsible for your own actions.  you are the individual proposing this.

doing this makes you a scammy piece of crap.  I do hope the community catches up with you on this and I think it likely that it will.  All of your crybaby shit aside, people don't like this type of shit and have seen too much of it.
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April 28, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
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If selling accounts was frowned upon or discouraged, more people would leave account sellers negative feedback. ...

From the unofficial list of unofficial not rules but suggestions to be interpreted however you wish:
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
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mprep's forum guidelines reflect his personal opinion as well, hense the "unofficial" in the title. Account sales aren't discouraged by forum administration, because they don't care. If someone sells a trusted account, the chances of that account losing its trust are equally high.
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April 28, 2015, 08:47:11 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious guys.  I would just ignore him.   Undecided

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April 28, 2015, 08:55:34 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious guys.  I would just ignore him.   Undecided

Why are you so confident that OP is a troll? What he's advertising sounds very plausible to me.

We all know that accounts with positive trust are already being trafficked, it wouldn't be impossible for someone to acquire an account in default trust level 2 and start giving out trust ratings for profit. How long this would last for is questionable though.

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April 28, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
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If selling accounts was frowned upon or discouraged, more people would leave account sellers negative feedback. ...

From the unofficial list of unofficial not rules but suggestions to be interpreted however you wish:
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
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mprep's forum guidelines reflect his personal opinion as well, hense the "unofficial" in the title.

Yeah, I've noticed the unofficial in the title.

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No shit?  But they'd start caring if I started selling Trust, you say?  I'm friends with them, perhaps they might not care so much?
You know, If I don't sell trust in the open, newbies might not realize that green trust could be bought, and might not be as careful as they should be.  That's why account selling is allowed on this forum, to educate the unwary, amirite?



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April 28, 2015, 09:25:21 PM
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... you a scammy piece of crap. ...

Enough. You've earned the first spot on my ignore list Smiley

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April 28, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
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No shit?  But they'd start caring if I started selling Trust, you say?  I'm friends with them, perhaps they might not care so much?
You know, If I don't sell trust in the open, newbies might not realize that green trust could be bought, and might not be as careful as they should be.  That's why account selling is allowed on this forum, to educate the unwary, amirite?

Nope, didn't say that either. Me warning you that it isn't a good idea doesnt equal an administrative ban on selling trust. If your friend gave you the trust that you then sell to people, your friend would then be removed most likely. It's not a rule, it's just how people tend to respond.

Again, your lack of understanding of how trust works leads me to believe that you are making a statement rather than actually selling trust.
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