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August 05, 2017, 11:02:43 PM
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Is PoS already working?

No it has not been released yet.

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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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Because some people would rather not download the whitepaper here is it is without graphics.



Bata Cryptocurrency Whitepaper
Bitcoin Firewall 1.1

Table of Contents
Table of Contents 2
Bitcoin Firewall (v 1.1) 3-4
Abstract 3
Why a firewall? 3-4
>51% majority hash-power attack 4-6
Technical overview 4
Proof of concept 5
Recent examples 6
Attacks on BATA (BTA) 6-9
Pumping & Dumping 6
Network flooding 7-8
Double-spend @ Bittrex 8
Prevention & Mitigation 8-9
Real-time 'intelligent' hard-fork protection 9-11
Research & developments 10
Proof of effectiveness 11
References 12-13

Copyright: August 1, 2017 Justin Percy
Founder of Biznatch Enterprises & Profit Shares Platform, BATA developer.
Public Development Repository: https://github.com/BiznatchEnterprises/BitcoinFirewall

World's first implementation of connections firewall & artificially intelligent attack detection.

Why a firewall?

“Attackers chosen coins that are traded on big exchanges (in this case our
friends from Bittrex) and made a double spend attack due to owning more
than 51% hashes needed.” [1]
Bitcoin Firewall 1.1 uses a very unique method for detecting potential
hard-fork attacks, coupled with dynamic block chain DDoS flooding. All connected
nodes/peers are examined using a dynamic rule set. By quickly avoiding long-term
acceptance of malicious commands and transactions, Bitcoin based developers of cryptocoins
can easily mitigates risks involved with low network hash-rates, and the costs involved
with attempting to maintain the majority of network hashing.
If rule set criteria are met, the connecting node is further examined to verify that their
blockchain start height is within safe limits of the average among all peers connected. Range based
dynamic blockchain checkpoints implementing averages instead of static heights,
further enhance network security by limiting potential attacks known as “more than 51% of
distributed hashing power”. Once a potential attack is detected: the connected node/peer is
forcefully terminated and added to a session blacklist and immediately refused future
connections. This can be considered a temporary session break, for safety.
“Actually, it's very easy to do damage to the network once you have 51%; just build your own chain
faster than the network, and broadcast it whenever you like. If you send some of your coins to a new
address in your own chain, all the transactions issued in the live network by spending those same coins
will be reversed at the moment the longer chain is broadcast.” [2]
“An attacker that controls more than 50% of the network's computing power can, for the time that he is
in control, exclude and modify the ordering of transactions. This allows him to: Reverse transactions
that he sends while he's in control, Prevent some or all transactions from gaining any confirmations,
Prevent some or all other generators from getting any generation, The attacker can't: Reverse other
people's transactions, Prevent transactions from being sent at all (they'll show as 0/unconfirmed),
Change the number of coins generated per block, Create coins out of thin air, Send coins that never
belonged to him.” [3]

“Large-scale peer-to-peer systems face security threats from faulty or hostile remote computing
elements. To resist these threats, many such systems employ redundancy. However, if a single faulty
entity can present multiple identities, it can control a substantial fraction of the system, thereby
undermining this redundancy. One approach to preventing these “Sybil attacks” is to have a trusted
agency certify identities. This paper shows that, without a logically centralized authority, Sybil attacks
are always possible except under extreme and unrealistic assumptions of resource parity and
coordination among entities.” [4]
>51% majority hash-power attack
Mining new coins requires consensus among all nodes on the network to agree upon
validation of new blocks containing existing (spent) confirmed transactions. Mining pools
compute new hash values and send the data to the network via the nodes, eventually
showing up in a client wallet. This process is very complex and requires all peers to cooperate
by confirming and transferring funds safely among all participants of the network efficiently.
Attackers are modifying open source wallets with sophisticated changes. These can alter the
performance of ALL nodes and peers, and thus the consensus among them as well. This
could become detrimental enough, similar to a distributed denial of service attack; Possibly for
a short period of time, enough to lower the security of all nodes and peers and successfully
by-pass all check-sum algorithms for spending confirmed funds twice.
“The client accepts the 'longest' chain of blocks as valid. The 'length' of the entire block chain refers to
the chain with the most combined difficulty, not the one with the most blocks. This prevents someone
from forking the chain and creating a large number of low-difficulty blocks, and having it accepted by
the network as 'longest'.” [2]
Technical overview
"Until 2009, Finney's system was the only RPOW system to have been implemented; it never saw
economically significant use. In 2009, the bitcoin network went online. Bitcoin is a proof-of-work
cryptocurrency that, like Finney's RPOW, is also based on the Hashcash POW. But in bitcoin doublespend
protection is provided by a decentralized P2P protocol for tracking transfers of coins, rather
than the hardware trusted computing function used by RPOW. Bitcoin has better trustworthiness
because it is protected by computation; RPOW is protected by the private keys stored in the TPM
hardware… Bitcoins are "mined" using the Hashcash proof-of-work function by individual nodes and
verified by the decentralized P2P bitcoin network." [3]

“Double-spending is an error in a digital cash scheme in which the same single digital token is spent
twice or more. This is possible because a digital token consists of a digital file that can be duplicated
or falsified. As with counterfeit money, such double-spending leads to inflation by creating a new
amount of fraudulent currency that did not previously exist. This devalues the currency relative to other
monetary units, and diminishes user trust as well as the circulation and retention of the currency.
Fundamental cryptographic techniques to prevent double-spending while preserving anonymity in a
transaction are blind signatures and particularly in offline systems, secret splitting.” [5]
“Bitcoin requires that all transactions, without exception, be included in a shared public transaction
log known as a "block chain." This mechanism ensures that the party spending the bitcoins really owns
them, and also prevents double-counting and other fraud. The block chain of verified transactions is
built up over time as more and more transactions are added to it. Bitcoin transactions take some time
to verify because the process involves intensive number-crunching and complex algorithms that take up
a great deal of computing power. It is, therefore, exceedingly difficult to duplicate or falsify the block
chain because of the immense amount of computing power that would be required to do so.” [6]
Proof of concept
Bitcoin, Litecoin and several other crypto-coins are less vulnerable to double spend attacks.
The simple reason is: They have many decentralized mining pools, coupled with a very large
amount of processing power. In monetary value: not worth attempting double spend attacks.
“It's much more difficult to change historical blocks, and it becomes exponentially more difficult the
further back you go. As above, changing historical blocks only allows you to exclude and change the
ordering of transactions. It's impossible to change blocks created before the last checkpoint. Since this
attack doesn't permit all that much power over the network, it is expected that no one will attempt it. A
profit-seeking person will always gain more by just following the rules, and even someone trying to
destroy the system will probably find other attacks more attractive. However, if this attack is
successfully executed, it will be difficult or impossible to "untangle" the mess created — any changes
the attacker makes might become permanent.” [2]
"Hackers have tried to get around the Bitcoin verification system by using methods such as outcomputing
the block chain security mechanism, or using a double-spending technique that involves
sending a fraudulent transaction log to a seller and another to the rest of the Bitcoin network. These
ploys have met with only limited success.” [7]
“We have derived the probability for a successful double-spend, and tabulated it in various ways. We
have also briefly discussed the conditions in which a double-spending attack can be economical, and
hence likely.” [8]

“Small-cap” coins are very vulnerable and highly susceptible to attacks if they only verify
blocks using a Proof of Work algorithms. Recently exploited hashing algorithms such as
SHA256, Scrypt, X11 and others have left many developers scrambling for solutions.
Struggling with development funds, they have very few miners, and even less pools to
contribute to the network processing power. Very low cost attacks can be simply rented by
cloud services for short periods of time ensure the double-spend attack is successful… and
they sometimes are very profitable!
Recent examples of double-spend attacks:
1) EMC2 Einsteinium [10]
2) QTL [11]
3) CANN [12]
4) BATA [12]
5) WBB [12]
6) UNB [12]
7) WUE [13]
Attacks on BATA (BTA)
Pumping & dumping
February 10, 2017 - “I am not a fan of Pump n Dumps, and I really hope this was not a plan by
someone to target Bata for a PnD as this project has merits. But with Bittrex showing a 24 hr volume
of 64+ BTC why are people selling at a loss? Don't panic and hold your price is what I would be
thinking... But I am not expert in manipulating markets.” [15]

February 09, 2017 - “After a mega pump and dump afterwards and the big news was today can't see
any news only riddles and that's what investors don't like m8” [16]
February 09, 2017 - “I must say I am very disappointed to see all these people come out of nowhere
and suddenly accuse me personally of doing something.” [17]
April 13, 2017 - “Get your facts straight before making accusations. There was no premine and
nothing has been dumped. I have mined or bought all my BTA. Worst of all your comments are
libelous… Here is your proof that GEENSTIJL is a pumper:” [18]
March 03, 2017 - “Speaking about the so-called speculative pumps, which, Yes, for weak projects was
crucial and of course in such conditions it was like a holiday and of course it was death and
speculation, but these projects were aimed at it and talk about some specially rigged solutions... I don't
think, though... here, of course, speaking about the viability of the coin, we talk about all the
instruments that can be applied to each phase " [19]
June 10, 2017, “Let's just ask ourselves, have these people really got anything better to do with their
wretched, unrewarding lives? Is this really the best they can conjure up after days, months, and years
of restlessness thinking about how to decredit someone else's work and success? If they spent more
time evaluating their own lives maybe they'd actually get somewhere..” [20]
Network flooding
Modified wallets appeared to be tricking authentic versions to submit massive amounts of
data throughout the P2P network, causing delays, increased orphan rates and overloaded
nodes. By first initiating a submission of the attacking hard-fork transactions, the majority of
distributed hashing power can be effectively reached as legitimate peers broadcasting the
“real” block-chain database get knocked offline momentarily, opening up a window...

This brute force splitting of consensus, creates the necessary environment to achieve a full
double-spend attack with success. Mining pools can be taken offline quite easily and thus the
initial investment of achieving >51% hashing power can be greatly reduced.
Double-spend @ Bittrex successful (June, 2017)
Network hash-rates
dropped below 3 GH,
and attackers injected
79 BTA worth of doublespend
transactions into
Bittrex's wallet. This
dual-attack was able to
sell and withdraw the
equivalent BTC before
administrators at Bittrex
discovered blockchain
anomalies. Renting only
5 GH of Scrypt mining
power costed approximately 0.044 Bitcoins for 5 hours. At these rental rates any attempts at
double spending was a low risk / high reward scenario.
“A number of POW cryptocurrencies have attacked recently with a 51% attack. We were hit first time
and lost a small number of BTA. Bittrex noticing put our wallet into maintenance mode, which we
thank them for. We decided to lift the number of confirmations and put the wallet back online. More
coins started to get attacked, with much higher confirmations, so Bittrex proactively put our wallet into
maintenance before we were attacked again. For an attack to be worth the time and money, the reward
must also be high. We since actively been monitoring the hashrate of each pool and maintaining our
own pool with higher hash rates than any pool approaching the 50% mark...” [12]
Prevention & mitigation
“Wallet maintenance implies one of several possible things could be happening: There could be a
possible fork on the block chain. In order to protect funds, we have disabled the wallet until a
consensus has been made on which chain is the proper chain. The wallet has been updated by the
developer and the exchange is in the process of implementing the wallet update. The wallet daemon on
our server has hung or crashed. The wallet is sending orphan transactions or having an issue that
requires the developer to work with us on resolving.” [9]

“To perform a successful double-spending attack, the attacker A needs to trick the vendor V into
accepting a transaction TRV that V will not be able to redeem subsequently. While this might be
computationally challenging for A to achieve if TRV was confirmed in a Bitcoin block7, this task might
be easier if the vendor accepts fast payments.” [14]
Real-time 'intelligent' hard-fork protection
A Bitcoin firewall has been a cliché concept very rarely discussed among developers. The
controversial act of banning nodes and peers was manually time consuming and hard to
distinguish good from bad network traffic automatically, in certain situations it has worked in
slowing or eventually stopping an attack but can be very time consuming or fruitless if the
attackers use a large-botnet with various ISPs, proxies or VPN/VPS connections.

Research & developments
Here is an example of valid BATA seed node connection stats after catching up on the blockchain
sync after a few days.
Below is an example of a malicious peer attempting to avoid detection while sending doublespend
transactions. What's important to focus on is the Starting Height comparisons above.

Proof of effectiveness
BATA core 10.5 - Debug.log output (edited):
2017-07-31 05:39:32 receive version message” NULL, version 0, blocks=-1, peer=2
2017-07-31 05:39:32 Added time data, samples 3, offset +1 (+0 minutes)
2017-07-31 05:39:34 Firewall - Netflood Detected: ***.***.***.***:5784
2017-07-31 05:39:34 Firewall - Blacklisted: ***.***.***.***:5784
2017-07-31 05:39:34 Firewall - Panic Disconnect: ***.***.***.***:5784
2017-07-31 05:47:29 receive version message: /Satoshi:0.8.6.2/: version 80007, blocks=718973
2017-07-31 05:47:31 Firewall - Netflood Detected: ***.***.***.***:5784
2017-07-31 05:47:31 Firewall - Blacklisted: ***.***.***.***:5784
2017-07-31 05:47:31 Firewall - Panic Disconnect: ***.***.***.***:5784

References:
[1] Double spend attack at Bittrex
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@kingscrown/double-spend-attack-on-some-proof-of-work-coinsstopped-by-bittrex
[2] What can an attacker with 51% of hash power do?
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/662
[3] Bitcoin Weaknesses
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Attacker_has_a_lot_of_computing_power
[4] The Sybil Attack
http://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/the-sybil-attack.pdf
[5] Double-spending
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-spending
[6] Proof of work system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system
[7] Breaking down Double Spending
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/doublespending.asp
[8] Analysis of hashrate-based double-spending
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1402.2009.pdf
[9] What does it mean when a wallet is in maintenance?
https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000233911-What-does-it-mean-when-awallet-is-in-maintenance-
[10] EMC2 Double spends
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ze49r1xevaoz0vt/EMC2+Double+Spends.pdf

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August 07, 2017, 01:00:53 AM
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For those who have used / or use Coinomi Android wallet, Bata is back online now.

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For those who have used / or use Coinomi Android wallet, Bata is back online now.

Good to hear! Glad to see the team is still hard at work its been awhile since I lurked on the thread; is slack still where you go for the latest news and update?

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For those who have used / or use Coinomi Android wallet, Bata is back online now.

Good to hear! Glad to see the team is still hard at work its been awhile since I lurked on the thread; is slack still where you go for the latest news and update?

Yes Slack is the best place.

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August 07, 2017, 10:03:11 PM
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Is PoS already working?

No it has not been released yet.


In which specific block go will work PoS  of the BTA?
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August 08, 2017, 12:03:35 AM
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Is PoS already working?

No it has not been released yet.


In which specific block go will work PoS  of the BTA?

As I have previously advised on Slack, Development is creating a Scrypt Hybrid, not X11, therefore this is completely new, unseen in Crypto. Testing has commenced. The best way of ruining Bata would be to release without being fully tested.

The short answer is there is no specific block we have advised yet, but we will advise.


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Crypto Broker Mining Pool - Added Bata

https://pool.cryptobroker.io/bta

  • Auto-Profit Switching Port (Equihash & Scrypt)
  • Automatic Payouts
  • Affiliate Commission

The mining pool update allows users to mine the most profitable coin based on algorithm. Automatic payouts can be setup to withdrawal coins to your exchange of choice. Servers have been upgraded and redundencies/alerts enhanced offering a more reliable mining pool setup.
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Crypto Broker Mining Pool - Added Bata

https://pool.cryptobroker.io/bta

  • Auto-Profit Switching Port (Equihash & Scrypt)
  • Automatic Payouts
  • Affiliate Commission

The mining pool update allows users to mine the most profitable coin based on algorithm. Automatic payouts can be setup to withdrawal coins to your exchange of choice. Servers have been upgraded and redundencies/alerts enhanced offering a more reliable mining pool setup.

Thanks for adding BTA, I will add to the website soon.

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Crypto Broker Mining Pool - Added Bata

https://pool.cryptobroker.io/bta

  • Auto-Profit Switching Port (Equihash & Scrypt)
  • Automatic Payouts
  • Affiliate Commission

The mining pool update allows users to mine the most profitable coin based on algorithm. Automatic payouts can be setup to withdrawal coins to your exchange of choice. Servers have been upgraded and redundencies/alerts enhanced offering a more reliable mining pool setup.

Thanks for adding BTA, I will add to the website soon.

Thanks, appreciate the support.

I'll look at joining the Slack group as I'm curious about the Script Hybrid you mentioned above. I assume this will require some changes to the stratum server implementation for mining in the long term. Would love to help test things out to make it a smooth transition.
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Crypto Broker Mining Pool - Added Bata

https://pool.cryptobroker.io/bta

  • Auto-Profit Switching Port (Equihash & Scrypt)
  • Automatic Payouts
  • Affiliate Commission

The mining pool update allows users to mine the most profitable coin based on algorithm. Automatic payouts can be setup to withdrawal coins to your exchange of choice. Servers have been upgraded and redundencies/alerts enhanced offering a more reliable mining pool setup.

Thanks for adding BTA, I will add to the website soon.

Thanks, appreciate the support.

I'll look at joining the Slack group as I'm curious about the Script Hybrid you mentioned above. I assume this will require some changes to the stratum server implementation for mining in the long term. Would love to help test things out to make it a smooth transition.

Excellent thanks we will be in touch when external testing commences.

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August 12, 2017, 01:47:41 AM
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Development update:
Posted in Slack:

We are planning that 10.5.1 will be the last release before the code integration of the next step in Bata development.  After the release of 10.5.1, we will be working on the release of the Masternode and Hybrid releases.

Posted in #batacoin_devToday at 11:41 AM

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so you've been saying for the last 3 months...
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Bitcoin Firewall Whitepaper now available!

World’s first implementation of connections firewall & artificially intelligent attack detection in Bata (BTA) Cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin Firewall 1.1

Developed by Justin Percy — Bata Development

Why a firewall?
Bitcoin Firewall 1.1 uses a very unique method for detecting potential hard-fork attacks, coupled with dynamic block chain DDoS flooding. All connected nodes/peers are examined using a dynamic rule set. By quickly avoiding long-term acceptance of malicious commands and transactions, Bitcoin based developers of cryptocoins can easily mitigates risks involved with low network hash-rates, and the costs involved with attempting to maintain the majority of network hashing.
If rule set criteria are met, the connecting node is further examined to verify that their blockchain start height is within safe limits of the average among all peers connected. Range based dynamic blockchain checkpoints implementing averages instead of static heights, further enhance network security by limiting potential attacks known as “more than 51% of distributed hashing power”. Once a potential attack is detected: the connected node/peer is forcefully terminated and added to a session blacklist and immediately refused future connections. This can be considered a temporary session break, for safety.
>51% majority hash-power attack
Mining new coins requires consensus among all nodes on the network to agree upon validation of new blocks containing existing (spent) confirmed transactions. Mining pools compute new hash values and send the data to the network via the nodes, eventually showing up in a client wallet. This process is very complex and requires all peers to cooperate by confirming and transferring funds safely among all participants of the network efficiently. Attackers are modifying open source wallets with sophisticated changes. These can alter the performance of ALL nodes and peers, and thus the consensus among them as well. This could become detrimental enough, similar to a distributed denial of service attack; Possibly for a short period of time, enough to lower the security of all nodes and peers and successfully by-pass all check-sum algorithms for spending confirmed funds twice.

Sounds interesting? To read the full whitepaper download http://bata.money/downloads/Bitcoin_Firewall%20_1.1.pdf. or via bata.io/development

Great job Dev do not throw BATA. I'm planning to start my own advertising company, to attract more investors in BATA.

https://abload.de/img/vatavcs7o.jpg

Please do not criticize this initiative, this is only my first trial balloon

Ктo здecь и пoльзoвaтeлeй инвecтиpyeт в вaтa Bы чтo coвceм из yмa выжили?

PS. Sorry for the lack of translation
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August 12, 2017, 12:47:54 PM
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To the Newbies who believe they know everything, but who have not contributed anything to Bata.

Development is not paid for by you, we never asked for money upfront (like a crowdfund or ICO).

Bata has many recent commits to our Github, (this is where dev's do their work - if you know anything about crypto). Part of a developer's work is to make sure that "your" coins are not lost due to a fork and not to put out code unless it is ready to ensure our network remains secure and running smoothly.

We have many members who contribute to make Bata their own.

The posts that are not contributing are ignored.

 

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Do not forget I have not sold one $BTA Wink

Or traded it.

Can you show and confirm us your Bata address? I see you are an honest man, I think it will not be difficult for you to do it Wink

Certainly:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

BCpmn5bsBxBZ57uJPToT8Sv9KpG95ZargM

And confirm Kiss

Can you send 2 BTA to - BGPsjmA2c4Jw4fjpKMy2qFWrJLG8DnEDAG from BCpmn5bsBxBZ57uJPToT8Sv9KpG95ZargM after that I will send it back Smiley

What I will confirm with you is what I stated earlier, I have not sold or traded any BTA since the announcement.

Thank you man, I found what I want, and so now I am sure that this is your address. Sorry for the lack of confidence. Smiley

I have a few questions. Will you destroy any coins or distribute them (for example, part for the development, part for additional services), and when will be available POS Mining?

Thanks



The dev is still selling Wink every few weeks he hypes big ideas to increase price at the same time coins are moved out of his Wallet. Very weird Wink

Lol this project still no progress I'm so suprised Cheesy:D

And the dev needed more money look his wallet cashed out again a bit. Sold 50% so far but people please buy bata masternodes, uber nodes, meganodes, bata shoes this pc888 what are you smoking m8
Stop the hype and stop making new accounts to hype your old dead project.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

Wallet of the Dev slowly dumping on you guys. First develop something and show it to the world then profit

And another sell off from the dev see Wallet for proof

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

Dev only promises with big hyping like ubernodes but no real
development for years. Anyway only newbies would still buy this dev dump coins
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August 13, 2017, 12:48:35 AM
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Ктo здecь и пoльзoвaтeлeй инвecтиpyeт в вaтa Bы чтo coвceм из yмa выжили?

PS. Sorry for the lack of translation

If it was really вaтa when translated to English it would be Vata not Bata.

This coin really has nothing to do with cotton but Barter as in direct trading of goods for other goods.

oбмeнивaть
exchange, swap, trade, change, barter, interchange

вымeнивaть
exchange, barter

According to Google translate.
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August 13, 2017, 02:06:22 AM
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Do not forget I have not sold one $BTA Wink

Or traded it.

Can you show and confirm us your Bata address? I see you are an honest man, I think it will not be difficult for you to do it Wink

Certainly:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

BCpmn5bsBxBZ57uJPToT8Sv9KpG95ZargM

And confirm Kiss

Can you send 2 BTA to - BGPsjmA2c4Jw4fjpKMy2qFWrJLG8DnEDAG from BCpmn5bsBxBZ57uJPToT8Sv9KpG95ZargM after that I will send it back Smiley

What I will confirm with you is what I stated earlier, I have not sold or traded any BTA since the announcement.

Thank you man, I found what I want, and so now I am sure that this is your address. Sorry for the lack of confidence. Smiley

I have a few questions. Will you destroy any coins or distribute them (for example, part for the development, part for additional services), and when will be available POS Mining?

Thanks



The dev is still selling Wink every few weeks he hypes big ideas to increase price at the same time coins are moved out of his Wallet. Very weird Wink

Lol this project still no progress I'm so suprised Cheesy:D

And the dev needed more money look his wallet cashed out again a bit. Sold 50% so far but people please buy bata masternodes, uber nodes, meganodes, bata shoes this pc888 what are you smoking m8
Stop the hype and stop making new accounts to hype your old dead project.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

Wallet of the Dev slowly dumping on you guys. First develop something and show it to the world then profit

And another sell off from the dev see Wallet for proof

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

Dev only promises with big hyping like ubernodes but no real
development for years. Anyway only newbies would still buy this dev dump coins

Seems like your mommy forgot to give you your meds today...

I enjoy the deep insight into the crypto world of economics that you share in your posts.  The humor and tactful criticism (or is it cynicism), that adds much value to the forum discussions.
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August 13, 2017, 11:47:36 AM
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Ктo здecь и пoльзoвaтeлeй инвecтиpyeт в вaтa Bы чтo coвceм из yмa выжили?

PS. Sorry for the lack of translation

If it was really вaтa when translated to English it would be Vata not Bata.

This coin really has nothing to do with cotton but Barter as in direct trading of goods for other goods.

oбмeнивaть
exchange, swap, trade, change, barter, interchange

вымeнивaть
exchange, barter

According to Google translate.

What are you talking about? Here is the right translation for you. This is the translation from Google translate.

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August 13, 2017, 03:30:43 PM
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Do not forget I have not sold one $BTA Wink

Or traded it.

Can you show and confirm us your Bata address? I see you are an honest man, I think it will not be difficult for you to do it Wink

Certainly:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

BCpmn5bsBxBZ57uJPToT8Sv9KpG95ZargM

And confirm Kiss

Can you send 2 BTA to - BGPsjmA2c4Jw4fjpKMy2qFWrJLG8DnEDAG from BCpmn5bsBxBZ57uJPToT8Sv9KpG95ZargM after that I will send it back Smiley

What I will confirm with you is what I stated earlier, I have not sold or traded any BTA since the announcement.

Thank you man, I found what I want, and so now I am sure that this is your address. Sorry for the lack of confidence. Smiley

I have a few questions. Will you destroy any coins or distribute them (for example, part for the development, part for additional services), and when will be available POS Mining?

Thanks



The dev is still selling Wink every few weeks he hypes big ideas to increase price at the same time coins are moved out of his Wallet. Very weird Wink

Lol this project still no progress I'm so suprised Cheesy:D

And the dev needed more money look his wallet cashed out again a bit. Sold 50% so far but people please buy bata masternodes, uber nodes, meganodes, bata shoes this pc888 what are you smoking m8
Stop the hype and stop making new accounts to hype your old dead project.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

Wallet of the Dev slowly dumping on you guys. First develop something and show it to the world then profit

And another sell off from the dev see Wallet for proof

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bta/address.dws?324.htm

Dev only promises with big hyping like ubernodes but no real
development for years. Anyway only newbies would still buy this dev dump coins

Seems like your mommy forgot to give you your meds today...

I enjoy the deep insight into the crypto world of economics that you share in your posts.  The humor and tactful criticism (or is it cynicism), that adds much value to the forum discussions.

The Wallet of the dev shows it all he is selling a chunk each time he hypes about
Ubernodes and other crap which was succesfull for a pump on other coins.

And when it goes up the dev sells another few 1000 coins. And in the end there is
zero proof of development only hyping but no real product.

Project was abandoned for years and suddenly he starts hyping and selling.
dev sold 450.000 coins this year about 10% of all tokens and where is the product?

Also your avatar says it all a can of cheap beer I know your kind of people all to well
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