[VOTE] UK General Election 2015

[Salman Anjum]

The Conservatives have won the 2015 general election, with a majority of 12. Here's an at-a-glance guide to the key points of the election.

Uk election 2015 visit the link for more information....

Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32633008

[Chavez]

Yeah can't believe these bellends have been voted in, say bye bye to the NHS.

The NHS is dead for sure it cant last 5 years of tory at this point.  We'll probably need health insurance after 5 years.

1 thing im fine with is a small cost to see the GP, i get fed up with waiting rooms full of people who dont need to be there.

People shouldn't have to pay anything to healthcare especially not in a country like the UK. All this commotion over that they don't have the money is bullshit. They can pull the money from elsewhere. How about not starting wars or scrapping trident for a start. Maybe legalise cannabis and put the billions that would likely generate into it.

[saddampbuh]

making everyone pay a token amount like £10 might be a good ideas as it would put time wasters off, gp surgeries are packed because of idiots going in with colds, a&e departments are overcrowded because of drunks, we also need to make sure foreigners have their own healthcare before they come here

[protokol]

Yeah can't believe these bellends have been voted in, say bye bye to the NHS.

The NHS is dead for sure it cant last 5 years of tory at this point.  We'll probably need health insurance after 5 years.

1 thing im fine with is a small cost to see the GP, i get fed up with waiting rooms full of people who dont need to be there.

Yes, I think this could be a bad situation. The NHS could be in trouble, also we've got the monster that is Theresa May back in the position of Home Secretary. Therefore we can expect no change in drug laws (I wouldn't be surprised if more authoritarian drug legislation is passed soon), and loss of civil liberties through more online surveillance and blocking of sites "to save the children!".

They are dinosaurs and need to DIE. 

(metaphorically of course)

[Wilikon]

[MJK]

making everyone pay a token amount like £10 might be a good ideas as it would put time wasters off, gp surgeries are packed because of idiots going in with colds, a&e departments are overcrowded because of drunks, we also need to make sure foreigners have their own healthcare before they come here

I'm not sure this is a good idea. What about people who can't really afford £10 or how about if somebody puts off going to the GP or hospital because they don't want to pay only to later find out its something serious. There are plenty of alternative ways funds can be raised without just making people pay so they'll hopefully stay away. These things always penalize the poor most.

[WhatTheGox]

making everyone pay a token amount like £10 might be a good ideas as it would put time wasters off, gp surgeries are packed because of idiots going in with colds, a&e departments are overcrowded because of drunks, we also need to make sure foreigners have their own healthcare before they come here

I'm not sure this is a good idea. What about people who can't really afford £10 or how about if somebody puts off going to the GP or hospital because they don't want to pay only to later find out its something serious. There are plenty of alternative ways funds can be raised without just making people pay so they'll hopefully stay away. These things always penalize the poor most.

You dont even need to make it £10 even like £2 will do the job for the most part, £2 everyone should be able to afford lets be honest and just having to pay makes people with colds not waste the doctors time.   People waste the doctors time because its totally free.  

I also think we should have health guidance volunteers similar to how we have PCSOs that people can go and see to get health guidance.  Just using the internet these days i've managed to diagnose all kinds of crap and in some cases done a better job than the GP.

[funtotry]

I don't like this at all. Under NO circumstances is ANYONE allowed to treat anyone like this. The anti-tories are just a bunch of crybabies, just crying and throwing a fit when they didn't win.
I really don't like this method of politics though. UKIP got 13% of the votes (I am a ukip supporter btw) and only 0.2% of the seats, only 1 seat.
Lib-dem, plaid Cymru, and snp combined got 13% but got MUCH more seats than UKIP.
Just doesn't make sense to me.

[TheButterZone]

A slight diversion for @criminalsunion today:

Sane people who know of specific Tories or [insert party members here] committing unspeakable atrocities, would shoot them... OOPS #gunsense

[Daniel91]

I'm really shocked that Cameron won again.
All the studies of public opinion spoke about a very close race in this election but on the end he won great victory.
It seems that these polls are not as reliable as journalists or people thinks.
Any way, now it will be very interesting to see whether Cameron will keep his promise and to hold a referendum about leaving the UK from the EU and see how it will affect the requirements for the independence from Scotland.

[newflesh]

I'm really shocked that Cameron won again.
All the studies of public opinion spoke about a very close race in this election but on the end he won great victory.
It seems that these polls are not as reliable as journalists or people thinks.
Any way, now it will be very interesting to see whether Cameron will keep his promise and to hold a referendum about leaving the UK from the EU and see how it will affect the requirements for the independence from Scotland.

Well 63% of the population didn't vote for Cameron so that's at least some relief, Ian Duncan Smith is already about to slash £12 billion from the welfare state, who said they aren't the nasty party?

[Lethn]

I'm really shocked that Cameron won again.
All the studies of public opinion spoke about a very close race in this election but on the end he won great victory.
It seems that these polls are not as reliable as journalists or people thinks.
Any way, now it will be very interesting to see whether Cameron will keep his promise and to hold a referendum about leaving the UK from the EU and see how it will affect the requirements for the independence from Scotland.

Well 63% of the population didn't vote for Cameron so that's at least some relief, Ian Duncan Smith is already about to slash £12 billion from the welfare state, who said they aren't the nasty party?

As you guys now know from there's an incredibly arrogant hard left movement here in the UK and they are genuinely not above doing anything they want in elections to get their way, I don't actually have a problem with using political compass style left/right with these guys because they genuinely believe that anyone other than them are the enemy.

This kind of extremely hostile and aggressive attitude drove regular voters to the conservatives, the arrogance is astounding, my favourite thing will always be when Labour said that we shouldn't even have a vote on the European Union, to put it into context for you Americans, these guys are the polar opposite in terms of ideology of the Republicans but just as nasty.

[fiN.]

I'm really shocked that Cameron won again.
All the studies of public opinion spoke about a very close race in this election but on the end he won great victory.
It seems that these polls are not as reliable as journalists or people thinks.
Any way, now it will be very interesting to see whether Cameron will keep his promise and to hold a referendum about leaving the UK from the EU and see how it will affect the requirements for the independence from Scotland.

Same. Don't get why people would vote for him again after they do such a crappy job but people always seem to get voted for a second term. Probably a fix, though he didn't exactly have any competition to worry about. Cameron seemed far too cocky and arrogant even saying he wouldn't run for a third term as well.

[Wilikon]

Thanks UK for reminding me of why I want to leave this shithole guys, oh and wait to make a self-moderated thread, that pretty much ruins any semblance of a proper debate oh and lol yes we have some pretty nasty people here in regards to that anti-tory manifesto, you guys may think the Republicans are nuts in America by comparison the 'Conservatives' here are actually pretty moderate and it's Labour who are the psychopaths in our country.

Adults with brain of a 3yo Left-wing Londoners riot, deface landmarks over massive conservative election victory

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/10/left-wing-britons-riot-deface-landmarks-over-massive-conservative-election-victory/

[practicaldreamer]

I'm really shocked that Cameron won again.
All the studies of public opinion spoke about a very close race in this election but on the end he won great victory.
It seems that these polls are not as reliable as journalists or people thinks.
Any way, now it will be very interesting to see whether Cameron will keep his promise and to hold a referendum about leaving the UK from the EU and see how it will affect the requirements for the independence from Scotland.

Well 63% of the population didn't vote for Cameron so that's at least some relief, Ian Duncan Smith is already about to slash £12 billion from the welfare state, who said they aren't the nasty party?

UK electorate = 45 million

Tories got 11 million

So thats circa 1 in 4 of all those eligible to vote voted Tory. ie 25%

Was interesting to see the demographics of the Tory electorate as well - they had next to no support in urban conurbations - but loads of support in rural and semi rural England.
   Englands green and pleasant land hey ? Must be great - sat listening to Elgar, eating strawberries, doing your bit for charity and voting tory.

The polls were so wildly out because no-one likes openly admitting that they are so blatantly voting in favour of their own self interest to the extent that they vote Tory.

BTW - at the next referendum for Scottish independance I have just turned from a no (in the last one) to a big YES voter.

[bryant.coleman]

Now things will get really interesting. Another 5 years of Tory rule will further alienate the Scots. Remember that the fiercely anti-Tory SNP swept the elections in Scotland with 56 seats (out of 59). Another independence referendum can happen within a few years time, and many of the pensioners (who voted overwhelmingly for the Union) won't be alive by then.

And remember this:

A survey, commissioned by Conservative peer Lord Ashcroft, said 71% of 16 to 17-year-olds voted for Scotland to be independent and 29% voted against.

[Wilikon]

Sad Third Grade School Girl Oxford Professor “Unfriends” All Of Her Conservaive Friends After Liberals Lose UK Elections…

One of the first things I did after seeing the depressing election news this morning was check to see which of my Facebook friends ‘like’ the pages of the Conservatives or David Cameron, and unfriend them. (Thankfully, none of my friends ‘like’ the UKIP page.) Life is too short, I thought, to hang out with people who hold abhorrent political views, even if it’s just online.

This marked a change of heart for me. Usually, I try to remain engaged with such people in the hope that I might be able to change their views through debate. (Admittedly, I don’t always engage constructively with them. Sometimes, late at night, when my brain is too tired to do anything fancy and I spot an offensive tweet by a UKIP supporter, the urge to murder them in 140 characters is too difficult to resist.) Did I do the wrong thing? Should I have kept my Conservative friends?

I’m not so sure. I am attracted by the view that we should all keep the debate open, discuss our political views, take other people’s views into account, and revise and improve our own as we all benefit from this dialogue. I’m attracted by the view that there is such a thing as progress in politics. But—depressingly—I’m far more sceptical than I was yesterday about how much of a difference we can make with political debate. There are several reasons for this.

One is that, in much of British culture, people are uncomfortable with debate about politics. It would, in some circles, be rude to raise the topic of politics over dinner, and to try to change someone’s mind about their political views—well, that’s frankly out of order. We’re much more comfortable talking about the weather, who might win the X Factor, or Kim Kardashian’s arse. The British unwillingness to discuss politics was illustrated today by the sway of the ‘shy Tories’: the people who voted Conservative, but who kept quiet about it in the run-up to the election, and certainly didn’t tell the opinion polls.


http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2015/05/if-youre-a-conservative-im-not-your-friend/

[funtotry]

Sad Third Grade School Girl Oxford Professor “Unfriends” All Of Her Conservaive Friends After Liberals Lose UK Elections…

One of the first things I did after seeing the depressing election news this morning was check to see which of my Facebook friends ‘like’ the pages of the Conservatives or David Cameron, and unfriend them. (Thankfully, none of my friends ‘like’ the UKIP page.) Life is too short, I thought, to hang out with people who hold abhorrent political views, even if it’s just online.

This marked a change of heart for me. Usually, I try to remain engaged with such people in the hope that I might be able to change their views through debate. (Admittedly, I don’t always engage constructively with them. Sometimes, late at night, when my brain is too tired to do anything fancy and I spot an offensive tweet by a UKIP supporter, the urge to murder them in 140 characters is too difficult to resist.) Did I do the wrong thing? Should I have kept my Conservative friends?

I’m not so sure. I am attracted by the view that we should all keep the debate open, discuss our political views, take other people’s views into account, and revise and improve our own as we all benefit from this dialogue. I’m attracted by the view that there is such a thing as progress in politics. But—depressingly—I’m far more sceptical than I was yesterday about how much of a difference we can make with political debate. There are several reasons for this.

One is that, in much of British culture, people are uncomfortable with debate about politics. It would, in some circles, be rude to raise the topic of politics over dinner, and to try to change someone’s mind about their political views—well, that’s frankly out of order. We’re much more comfortable talking about the weather, who might win the X Factor, or Kim Kardashian’s arse. The British unwillingness to discuss politics was illustrated today by the sway of the ‘shy Tories’: the people who voted Conservative, but who kept quiet about it in the run-up to the election, and certainly didn’t tell the opinion polls.


http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2015/05/if-youre-a-conservative-im-not-your-friend/

Its clear that this girl isn't in her write mind. Everyone is entitled to their own political opinion, and while you may disagree with someone, unfriending them is just childish, and if she really cannot hold a debate with them, and have to unfriend them to just run from the "problem" instead of facing it. If she really cared about her political views, she would try to "convert" them instead of just running away.

[chmod755]

Sad Third Grade School Girl Oxford Professor “Unfriends” All Of Her Conservaive Friends After Liberals Lose UK Elections…

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2015/05/if-youre-a-conservative-im-not-your-friend/

Thanks for sharing, especially with the debate in the comment section.

The Blog Admin later published this:

Statement from Blog Admin

A recent post on this blog by a lecturer from Royal Holloway has caused negative comment and attention. All posts on the blog reflect the author’s own arguments, and are not a reflection of the views of other blog writers, of the Centre, or of the University. Blog authors include staff and students of Oxford University, and staff from other Universities. Due to resource issues, the blog is largely unmoderated, though we of course expect all contributors to take their responsibility seriously to maintain the academic and public engagement mission of the blog.

In order to promote a balanced debate, we will shortly be hosting an open letter in response to this post from a group of University students. We were also pleased to see a generally high standard of debate amongst the comments.

[Wilikon]

Sad Third Grade School Girl Oxford Professor “Unfriends” All Of Her Conservaive Friends After Liberals Lose UK Elections…

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2015/05/if-youre-a-conservative-im-not-your-friend/

Thanks for sharing, especially with the debate in the comment section.

The Blog Admin later published this:

Statement from Blog Admin

A recent post on this blog by a lecturer from Royal Holloway has caused negative comment and attention. All posts on the blog reflect the author’s own arguments, and are not a reflection of the views of other blog writers, of the Centre, or of the University. Blog authors include staff and students of Oxford University, and staff from other Universities. Due to resource issues, the blog is largely unmoderated, though we of course expect all contributors to take their responsibility seriously to maintain the academic and public engagement mission of the blog.

In order to promote a balanced debate, we will shortly be hosting an open letter in response to this post from a group of University students. We were also pleased to see a generally high standard of debate amongst the comments.

That's a logical move. This is the kind of decision that'll keep oxford open for another 800 years...

 

P.S.: What's a Conservaive? I should have caught that.