[POLL] What would get you to play NastyKeno?

[OgNasty]

You can view the NastyKeno thread here for those who aren't familiar: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020151.0

or the website at: Keno.NastyFans.org

You can also read more about the organization any proceeds would be donated to (NastyFans) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0


TheAnalogKid has been running a several week promotion refunding 0.01 BTC to each incorrect prediction and there have still been unclaimed credits, leading me to ask...

What would get you to play NastyKeno?

[arallmuus]

You can view the NastyKeno thread here for those who aren't familiar: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020151.0

or the website at: Keno.NastyFans.org

You can also read more about the organization any proceeds would be donated to (NastyFans) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0


TheAnalogKid has been running a several week promotion refunding 0.01 BTC to each incorrect prediction and there have still been unclaimed credits, leading me to ask...

What would get you to play NastyKeno?

The thing is not that people dont love free credits to play and win, it is just that not everyone aware of this games since not everyone tend to look in the games and rounds section.
Best thing for you to do is to move the thread into gambling section to gather more attention since you now have a website to get more attention to the game. Another thing is faster round is needed, I was in the first round and I felt that the round was too long that is why I decided not to participate in another round again despite free credits is given

Tl;dr : it is never a nice thing to wait just to know a result

[OgNasty]

Tl;dr : it is never a nice thing to wait just to know a result

This is valuable feedback.  The idea of tying in the NastyFans weekly distribution was to bring a bit of fun and awareness to the weekly distributions.  I can see why you would want an immediate result though.

Would you consider playing again if there was an address where you could make "instant" predictions and as soon as your TX was included in a block you could see if you were correct?  Would daily payouts be frequent enough?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Never played it.
What is it?

[arallmuus]

Tl;dr : it is never a nice thing to wait just to know a result

This is valuable feedback.  The idea of tying in the NastyFans weekly distribution was to bring a bit of fun and awareness to the weekly distributions.  I can see why you would want an immediate result though.

Would you consider playing again if there was an address where you could make "instant" predictions and as soon as your TX was included in a block you could see if you were correct?  Would daily payouts be frequent enough?

If you could make the game into the instantly mode, then this could boost the popularity of the game but not enough to lure in more players. You need to pack it with some animations perhaps on your website.

Example of luckyb.it . The site is only about sending your bet through wallet and get the result few seconds after that, but the twist is that there are some animations of ball falling in the site (pliinko style)

Ognasty keno isnt so much difference than luckyb.it . If there is a website to show some animations for the keno than your game could go head to head with luckyb.it  . Another plus point of having website is that you can move the thread to gambling to gain some attention

Never played it.
What is it?

check the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020151.0

[OgNasty]

If you could make the game into the instantly mode, then this could boost the popularity of the game but not enough to lure in more players. You need to pack it with some animations perhaps on your website.

Example of luckyb.it . The site is only about sending your bet through wallet and get the result few seconds after that, but the twist is that there are some animations of ball falling in the site (pliinko style)

Ognasty keno isnt so much difference than luckyb.it . If there is a website to show some animations for the keno than your game could go head to head with luckyb.it  . Another plus point of having website is that you can move the thread to gambling to gain some attention

I don't think TheAnalogKid wants to deal with the security concerns that come along with running a hot wallet on a server for instant payouts at this time.  I wouldn't have an issue with setting up an address for instant predictions though, where you could see immediately if you won, and payouts could be processed a few times per day (or whenever you want if you PM to "hit the magic button" that processes payouts).

You make a good point about luckyb.it having cool animations and such.  NastyKeno is a much more simple approach, and I think there are those who appreciate a less flashy option.  It is something for us to consider though as the platform is developed.  The site was built using basic cross-platform DHTML scripts, which are intended to be lightning fast and widely compatible.  I will look into what style enhancements might be possible with this development type.

[arallmuus]

If you could make the game into the instantly mode, then this could boost the popularity of the game but not enough to lure in more players. You need to pack it with some animations perhaps on your website.

Example of luckyb.it . The site is only about sending your bet through wallet and get the result few seconds after that, but the twist is that there are some animations of ball falling in the site (pliinko style)

Ognasty keno isnt so much difference than luckyb.it . If there is a website to show some animations for the keno than your game could go head to head with luckyb.it  . Another plus point of having website is that you can move the thread to gambling to gain some attention

I don't think TheAnalogKid wants to deal with the security concerns that come along with running a hot wallet on a server for instant payouts at this time.  I wouldn't have an issue with setting up an address for instant predictions though, where you could see immediately if you won, and payouts could be processed a few times per day (or whenever you want if you PM to "hit the magic button" that processes payouts).

You make a good point about luckyb.it having cool animations and such.  NastyKeno is a much more simple approach, and I think there are those who appreciate a less flashy option.  It is something for us to consider though as the platform is developed.  The site was built using basic cross-platform DHTML scripts, which are intended to be lightning fast and widely compatible.  I will look into what style enhancements might be possible with this development type.

Good idea for the bolded part but you will need someone to constantly standby just to process the request whenever there is someone who request the payout.

You are right that someone may like the less flashy option. Not saying that you need a flashy animations but still something to catch up the attention of the players is something to add to the game. Basically sending bets from wallet , veryfing the result manually through blockchain is not something that a gambler wants to do . So my point is providing some simple animations on site that will tell you about the result will be good for the starting point

Atleast the nastyfans got it own community, shouldnt be hard for you to start up a new game and gather some attention after you develop the platform

[bitbaby]

You can view the NastyKeno thread here for those who aren't familiar: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020151.0

or the website at: Keno.NastyFans.org

This is the first time I have seen that thread mainly because I don't go to games and rounds section too often. I like the blockchain hash idea, it's in-fact completely 100% provably fair as block hash cannot be predicted or altered.

One think I don't understand is this part:

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

[arallmuus]

One think I don't understand is this part:

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain.  The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea.  The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

[boopy265420]

One think I don't understand is this part:

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain.  The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea.  The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

I navigated through this thread in games and rounds section and exact this is the main reason I avoided it to play. Weekly distribution is saddest point of this game. Distribution should occur more frequent which will encourage the players to come and play on it.

[Billy Hlapinnio]

The website can surely be better. 

[arallmuus]

I navigated through this thread in games and rounds section and exact this is the main reason I avoided it to play. Weekly distribution is saddest point of this game. Distribution should occur more frequent which will encourage the players to come and play on it.

right I have mentioned this above, gamblers hate to wait for result, especially if you need to wait for 1 week


Ognasy, if you have some time please check on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1029243.0.

The concept of that game is almost like ognasty keno, difference is that it is based on the TX ID from the sender to the corespondent address. The game was working at first but it has stopped working now. Plus if you make some website to support some animations for this then it will gain much more attention than the current game

[Cinnob0n]

Draws take too long to be picked. If the shorten the time ill start using the site again.

[newcripto]

One think I don't understand is this part:

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain.  The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea.  The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

Thank you arallmuus for explaining it well.I did not know before what this game is about.The shorter the duration of game will be the more popular it will be. Admin need to make some changes as you mentioned above, I am agreed with you.

[Havelivi]

One think I don't understand is this part:

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain.  The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea.  The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

I navigated through this thread in games and rounds section and exact this is the main reason I avoided it to play. Weekly distribution is saddest point of this game. Distribution should occur more frequent which will encourage the players to come and play on it.

i think so that weekly draw result keep away many players to put bet on keno, i saw their giveaway thread in games and round section but to know about the result for a week is terrible period in gambling terms.

[twister]

IMHO you should add several games, like the current one is weekly, you can add couple of more games which open daily or hourly even and apart from that I voted for #5, I think giveaways and promotion always helps bring attention to a site.

[XinXan]

The promotions are always good but i dont understand how can you have better odds? In the better odds option, i mean how can you raise the odds?

[OgNasty]

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

Thank you arallmuus for explaining it well.I did not know before what this game is about.The shorter the duration of game will be the more popular it will be. Admin need to make some changes as you mentioned above, I am agreed with you.

Thanks.  It seems that a more frequent prediction option is something that is wanted by most, and I will see about making that happen soon.

The promotions are always good but i dont understand how can you have better odds? In the better odds option, i mean how can you raise the odds?

It could offer higher odds, for example, instead of paying out 10:1 for a correct single character predictions, it could pay out 12:1.  It doesn't seem like this is the stumbling block for potential users though as it seems people would prefer more promotions over higher odds.

One free BTC to new users, with no deposit requirement and no withdrawal restrictions harsher than "you must gamble at least BTC1 to withdraw."

Also, wife checks browser history, so "nasty" has always been a deterrent. Why not OgKeno? Makes you sound more like an arrogant Chinese kid serious Bitcoin businessman.

There are no withdrawals or deposits or accounts of any kind on the site, only placing predictions, and the prediction amount is 0.01 BTC, not 1 BTC.  I don't mind how the name Nasty makes me sound either.  My reputation is not a concern I have.  Addressing your question though, this isn't OgKeno because it is a game run on behalf of NastyFans, not myself.  If I was hosting the site and keeping the profits, maybe OgKeno would be appropriate, but I am not doing either.

[bitbaby]

One think I don't understand is this part:

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain.  The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea.  The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

I understood that it was based on Tx ID and one has to check which block the Tx was included in to see the results by checking the last character of that block hash, which is why I said that it makes it 100% provably fair, but was confused as to what is Nasty distribution. Thanks for clearing that up

And I agree, gamblers don't have a lot of patience and waiting is not one of their virtues.

[ajareselde]

Why dont u just make it a daily drawing, waiting for a week i even forget that i made a bet there. Giveaway is a nice thing tho, i was also surprised to see that some of
it wasnt claimed, but that may be because people didnt understand the game.
poll says it all, decrease duration, find another form of giveaway, it doesnt have to be a generous as this one, with time, people will come, but for now, anyone who wants to gamble will just go to dice site and
make a gamble and result in a second.