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May 07, 2015, 04:46:47 PM Last edit: May 15, 2015, 06:46:02 PM by cyclops |
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I'm cyclops, user of this forum for a few years now, used to trading with members here and with an, until now, impecable reputation. I am writing this Scam accusation regarding another Hero Member of the forum: lophie (Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62227) What happened:: This user has a thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941771.0 advertising as a developer for hire. So to keep it simple and short, on April the 13th I contracted his services after discussing via Skype the rate, and timeframe for a developing job (Accounting app). It all came to 7 days and 100$ as you can see in the above thread. Now nearly a month later no software has been delivered and I have not received any communication from this user since April the 26 when he said: Me: Updates? This is taking longer than expected...
Him: Yes, I am so sorry. Unexpected events happened for me in real life, My laptop screen broke and it stopped me from working for a couple of days. I understand your frustration and appreciate your patience. After that I sent three messages, on the 3rd, 4th and 6th of May. No response was received even though the user has connected during these days and posted on the forum as you can see in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950714.840He has both my email and Skype and has not bothered to reply by any means to me. I can provide proof of everything, Skype chats, emails, PM's... I am now demanding the immediate repayment of the 100$, exactly 0.443 Bitcoins, that I sen't him as a payment for his services, I do not longer want the software (which I doubt he has even started developing) as this user is not trustworthy to me. (I have left negative trust on his profile, will decide what to do once this user has repaid what he owes) Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62227Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941771.0Amount Scammed: 100$ or 0.443 BTCPayment Method: Bitcoin Proof of Payment: Tx1 89803954bffa8589bc22e3824b60c36e319b640c950a68f2028701c2db551f79 TX2 44748803b88deb5d06f62a4b5fd563016ee18d43bdc2136c2550448ce32d9200 https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/89803954bffa8589bc22e3824b60c36e319b640c950a68f2028701c2db551f79https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/44748803b88deb5d06f62a4b5fd563016ee18d43bdc2136c2550448ce32d9200Address for repayment: 144cQFAUZDcyq6E4Tm2aytXqUeNVXzwCuj Logs and that:Skype: http://pastebin.com/yNiYbaG6There are previous conversations, nothing relevant to the topic only technical aspects of the software. Email:http://imgur.com/a/1R4EaNon relevant, only me sending some files to him (Pdf and XLS documents) regarding the software functionality. (I never got a response) PMs:By chronological order, as you can see he stopped responding after april the 26. He posted in the forum after that day so he did not respond intentionally. http://imgur.com/a/6GLcR15/05/2015 Update: The owed money has been returned: https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/762a2a1d5511769550614dcb1d914ea26ed29dd3b5fc7e83b16c35061d6b8899 But I will not remove my negative feedback from the user lophie, for the following reasons: - His lack of interest on the matter, he has not tried to work things out but instead acted in an arrogant way. - No response, explanation, was given even though he promised one. To this point I don't know why he did what he did. - The payment has been received from another user "Sakarias-Corporation" who has showed more interest in resolving this matter than lophie (who has worked for him). As Sakarias has told me, the money comes from a pay that was due to lophie for his work. Almost all my communication regarding payment updates have gone through this user who I believe has better ways of contacting lophie than me.
I highly recommend that you do not trade with lophie, he has showed himself as an user who can't be trusted, the way this situation has been resolved is really sketchy. And as final recommendation, use Escrow.
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caskey4521
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May 07, 2015, 08:06:55 PM |
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He is online right now. I hope you could solve this out.
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cyclops (OP)
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May 07, 2015, 08:08:58 PM |
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He is online right now. I hope you could solve this out.
I already PM'ed him today, some users are updating its trust profile with negative feedback and he is not responding to me. Even though he is still posting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950714.860
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lophie
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May 08, 2015, 07:04:29 AM |
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Please provide the public with the private chats, Skype and emails. I will respond accordingly afterwards.
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Will take me a while to climb up again, But where is a will, there is a way...
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GannickusX
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May 08, 2015, 10:17:33 AM |
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Please provide the public with the private chats, Skype and emails. I will respond accordingly afterwards.
And thats your argument against this accusation? Are you going to pay him the 100$ back or not, simply as that. Why does he need to provide the chats if he already proved that he paid you?
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May 08, 2015, 10:26:25 AM |
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well this will be a heroic battle are bets allowed? ^^ If so I bet on cyclops. If there was really damning evidence in lophie's logs he would have posted them himself since both parties have them. He didn't so there's not and he's just stalling some more most likely.
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コピペ copypaste
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cyclops (OP)
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May 08, 2015, 12:15:49 PM |
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Please provide the public with the private chats, Skype and emails. I will respond accordingly afterwards.
Logs posted, as said I will now only accept the repayment of the 0.443 BTC Please provide the public with the private chats, Skype and emails. I will respond accordingly afterwards.
And thats your argument against this accusation? Are you going to pay him the 100$ back or not, simply as that. Why does he need to provide the chats if he already proved that he paid you? Yep, as you can see in his thread( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941771.0) he even confirmed the payment. P.S. I have received PM's from other users stating other suspicious activities from this user, will update once I have more proof.
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lophie
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May 08, 2015, 05:14:35 PM |
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et the emails and skype chats are still not here... something smells funny...
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cyclops (OP)
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May 08, 2015, 05:18:30 PM |
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et the emails and skype chats are still not here... something smells funny...
Look again, the Skype log is there, and has been for hours. Emails are not relevant as it is only me sending you project information. Stop avoiding responding to the accusation.
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lophie
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May 08, 2015, 05:25:23 PM |
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et the emails and skype chats are still not here... something smells funny...
Look again, the Skype log is there, and has been for hours. Emails are not relevant as it is only me sending you project information. Stop avoiding responding to the accusation.
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May 08, 2015, 05:31:44 PM |
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et the emails and skype chats are still not here... something smells funny...
Look again, the Skype log is there, and has been for hours. Emails are not relevant as it is only me sending you project information. Stop avoiding responding to the accusation. http://imgur.com/a/1R4EaStop avoiding the matter and respond!
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lophie
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May 08, 2015, 05:51:31 PM |
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et the emails and skype chats are still not here... something smells funny...
Look again, the Skype log is there, and has been for hours. Emails are not relevant as it is only me sending you project information. Stop avoiding responding to the accusation. http://imgur.com/a/1R4EaStop avoiding the matter and respond! I am not avoiding you. I just need you to be honest with the public with all the information not just selected stuff and rage pms and slandering businesses of my friends. Did you even do your research about my involvement in their businesses before you harm their businesses or the likes of you do this in real life as well? As I said. I will respond accordingly when the information are public, which are now. So expect a proper response to you in the very near future. Mean while you can look in the mirror and evaluate what you did to a poor old man in south america with a heart condition seeing his grandson flipout about his new upcoming business because someone slandered his business because of a distant friend he asked for a technical advice from. Good job asshole. the world does not revolve around you and I just could not respond as quick as I should (See not even denying I am late to respond). since we are at it. It is VERY easy to find my phone numbe that I even offered, since when was "skype" more reliable to reach someone? Anyway, approperiate respecting professional response coming soon.
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lophie
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May 08, 2015, 05:57:31 PM |
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Non relevant,
so he did not respond intentionally.
Praise the lord we have a psychic that knows people intentions, I like deciding what is not relevant for the public, more that I like how 2 non affected third parties gave me a negative review. Isn't that enough for a counter scam accusation against them?
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May 08, 2015, 05:59:27 PM |
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If I can say my personal opinion (if it is possible). I do not think lophie is a dishonest person, he is an active user here in the forum and he appears a good and legit 'user' so I think this is only a misunderstanding... and all this situation will be resolved (also privately, without all this public scene ).
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lophie
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May 08, 2015, 06:02:09 PM |
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If I can say my personal opinion (if it is possible). I do not think lophie is a dishonest person, he is an active user here in the forum and he appears a good and legit 'user' so I think this is only a misunderstanding... and all this situation will be resolved (also privately, without all this public scene ).
No no let him go for it, There are alot o people I will insult very soon in a proper mature way.
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May 08, 2015, 06:05:21 PM |
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@Lophie I'm sure you know what "One Hand Can't Clap" means. You are also responsible for cyclop's actions. Also It's not good to take someone's money,make him wait for a month and call him asshole just because he needs his money back. Anyways now if you are willing to close this case, you should refund his money as soon as possible as he clearly stated that he just need his money back not a professional response.
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lophie
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May 08, 2015, 06:10:22 PM |
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@Lophie I'm sure you know what "One Hand Can't Clap" means. You are also responsible for cyclop's actions. Also It's not good to take someone's money,make him wait for a month and call him asshole just because he needs his money back. Anyways now if you are willing to close this case, you should refund his money as soon as possible as he clearly stated that he just need his money back not a professional response.
Everyone is responsible for their actions. You all need a proper response. EDIT: Some of you "deserve" a proper response. but some "needs"
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May 08, 2015, 10:17:57 PM |
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-snip- Proof of Payment: 89803954bffa8589bc22e3824b60c36e319b640c950a68f2028701c2db551f79 44748803b88deb5d06f62a4b5fd563016ee18d43bdc2136c2550448ce32d9200 -snip-
Please update the TX hash, you broke it somehow. Its probably easiest if you just provide a link instead of a two line hash with whitespaces. They are two transactions not one.
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Muhammed Zakir
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May 09, 2015, 04:15:30 AM |
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@lophie: Skip the current part and please respond properly. You are worsening this which can be solved easily. If cyclops said anything wrong, point it. This looks like you can't go forward with this deal, do it is better to refund cyclops.
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