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September 04, 2012, 02:54:18 PM |
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Does anybody know if they will be stand alone units that just need internet, or we will have to connect them to a PC?
How they will be controlled?
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crazyates
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September 04, 2012, 03:45:58 PM |
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You will need a spare PC with spare USB ports (laptops work great for this).
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stick_theman
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September 07, 2012, 02:55:53 PM |
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You will need a spare PC with spare USB ports (laptops work great for this).
Once configured, we can free up the laptop so the SC can go headless, right? |
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September 07, 2012, 03:10:15 PM |
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You will need a spare PC with spare USB ports (laptops work great for this).
Once configured, we can free up the laptop so the SC can go headless, right? No. It should be just like current Singles or Mini Rigs or any other FPGA out there, you need a PC to run the mining equipment. |
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stick_theman
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September 07, 2012, 03:39:39 PM |
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No. It should be just like current Singles or Mini Rigs or any other FPGA out there, you need a PC to run the mining equipment.
I don't understand. Sorry. So the Single SC will simply be a replacement for the current CPU or GPU? the Single SC will need other components of the PC, e.g. hard drive, memory to run? Thanks |
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freeAgent
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September 07, 2012, 04:02:57 PM |
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No. It should be just like current Singles or Mini Rigs or any other FPGA out there, you need a PC to run the mining equipment.
I don't understand. Sorry. So the Single SC will simply be a replacement for the current CPU or GPU? the Single SC will need other components of the PC, e.g. hard drive, memory to run? Thanks Yes, exactly. Think of it as a peripheral. Like a mouse or keyboard, it's useless without being connected to a running computer. |
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crazyates
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September 07, 2012, 04:09:56 PM |
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No. It should be just like current Singles or Mini Rigs or any other FPGA out there, you need a PC to run the mining equipment.
I don't understand. Sorry. So the Single SC will simply be a replacement for the current CPU or GPU? the Single SC will need other components of the PC, e.g. hard drive, memory to run? Thanks No it's not like that. You need a working computer or a laptop to run the mining software. Then you connect the SC Single to the PC with a USB cable, like you would a USB keyboard or a flash drive. Here is a video (not mine) of 8 Singles connected by USB to a laptop, running a mining software (BitMinter) that uses the Singles to mine. |
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September 07, 2012, 06:54:35 PM |
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A cheap low powered netbook will work well for this. You dont need a lot of cpu power and 2gb ram is plenty. Connect to a usb hub if you need more ports.
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freeAgent
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September 07, 2012, 07:34:28 PM |
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A cheap low powered netbook will work well for this. You dont need a lot of cpu power and 2gb ram is plenty. Connect to a usb hub if you need more ports.
Some people are even using Raspberry Pis with FPGA. I would think that they should theoretically be able to handle the ASICs as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69183.msg919685#msg919685 |
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September 07, 2012, 07:51:35 PM |
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A cheap low powered netbook will work well for this. You dont need a lot of cpu power and 2gb ram is plenty. Connect to a usb hub if you need more ports.
Some people are even using Raspberry Pis with FPGA. I would think that they should theoretically be able to handle the ASICs as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=69183.msg919685#msg919685I think this is my favorite tho.  |
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stick_theman
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September 07, 2012, 11:58:19 PM |
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A cheap low powered netbook will work well for this. You dont need a lot of cpu power and 2gb ram is plenty. Connect to a usb hub if you need more ports.
I understand we haven't seen the design yet. If we were going to use the laptop, how many USB ports do we need? Each SC will take a USB port?! Can we join SCs together? |
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September 08, 2012, 03:52:00 AM |
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A cheap low powered netbook will work well for this. You dont need a lot of cpu power and 2gb ram is plenty. Connect to a usb hub if you need more ports.
I understand we haven't seen the design yet. If we were going to use the laptop, how many USB ports do we need? Each SC will take a USB port?! Can we join SCs together? Each SC Single will most likely use 1 USB port. They don't use a lot of bandwidth, so using any USB hub will work just fine to connect several SC Singles to one laptop. |
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September 15, 2012, 05:58:51 AM |
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They are just external devices that plug into USB ports.
The FPGA mini-rig needs two USB ports. What I'm wondering is how many will be needed for 1,000GH rigs? Seems like a lot of data to be passing thru.
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September 15, 2012, 06:25:52 AM |
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They are just external devices that plug into USB ports.
The FPGA mini-rig needs two USB ports. What I'm wondering is how many will be needed for 1,000GH rigs? Seems like a lot of data to be passing thru.
The BFL MR uses 2 USB ports because it is actually using an average of 18 FPGA modules, that are all controlled via USB. There are 2 USB hubs inside the MR, and each hub has one of the cables you mentioned. It is unknown how many ASIC chips a 1TH unit will have, and likely won't be known until someone here on the forums gets one and takes it apart. It's actually not a lot of data, from what I've read here on the forums. The data sent to/from the computer to the miner is very small, so the USB bandwidth is nowhere near its max limits. |
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September 18, 2012, 03:48:56 AM |
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They are just external devices that plug into USB ports.
The FPGA mini-rig needs two USB ports. What I'm wondering is how many will be needed for 1,000GH rigs? Seems like a lot of data to be passing thru.
You would need somewhere in the neighborhood of 2500 of them PLUS also magic if you want them to be profitable, as ASICs are about to be released that are 8.75x faster at approximately the same power level (everyone assumes). |
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Fking (OP)
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October 05, 2012, 06:56:01 PM |
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Good to know, i thought they will be stand alone units.
Does anybody know if they will require cooling? eg will they have fan noise? And what would be the physical dimensions of the new singles...?
I have a spare galaxy S3, would be pretty cool if i can connect them to that and run the mining proggie on it... :>
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Desolator
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October 06, 2012, 07:57:11 PM |
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I believe the specs say they'll use a very similar casing as the FPGA single which has a top-mounted fan. I think it's even a super silent Effizio Silenx red series fan if I remember correctly. So they're basically self contained units that monitor and run themselvs with their own power indicators and cooling and all that.
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Fking (OP)
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October 08, 2012, 01:28:33 PM |
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so, they will be quite small? that's good.
What's the noise level?
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October 08, 2012, 01:43:17 PM |
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Okay, I was assuming it was this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835226034which is a mere 15 dba! Silenx claims it's beyond human hearing capability  But unfortunaetly I must be thinking of another manufacturer's device because this pic:  Seems to indicate that they're using unbelievably crappy, low quality, cheap fans. I carry those at my shop and they suck! They're loud, they break a lot, and I hate them. So they spend a fortune on copper heatsinks and then can't spend an extra couple bucks to get a good fan, wow. BFL says the current single from them runs at 32db btw so that's probably similar to the new ones. |
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