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Purely because I consider it to be within in my “related disciplinary interest” bailiwick ... When Discrimination Is Baked into AlgorithmsA recent ProPublica analysis of The Princeton Review’s prices for online SAT tutoring shows that customers in areas with a high density of Asian residents are often charged more. When presented with this finding, The Princeton Review called it an “incidental” result of its geographic pricing scheme. The case illustrates how even a seemingly neutral price model could potentially lead to inadvertent bias—bias that’s hard for consumers to detect and even harder to challenge or prove.
Hm. We learned in the late 80s that ML was vulnerable to this, how come the lesson appears to have been forgotten? I wonder if I have not been mistakenly assuming that the lack of acknowledgement of the issue by contemporary proponents of ML was a sign that the issue (GIGO) is so basic as to have been fully internalised. To discover that the knowledge has apparently been lost is more than a little disturbing. Cheers Graham
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September 08, 2015, 11:52:26 AM |
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Purely because I consider it to be within in my “related disciplinary interest” bailiwick ... When Discrimination Is Baked into AlgorithmsA recent ProPublica analysis of The Princeton Review’s prices for online SAT tutoring shows that customers in areas with a high density of Asian residents are often charged more. When presented with this finding, The Princeton Review called it an “incidental” result of its geographic pricing scheme. The case illustrates how even a seemingly neutral price model could potentially lead to inadvertent bias—bias that’s hard for consumers to detect and even harder to challenge or prove.
Hm. We learned in the late 80s that ML was vulnerable to this, how come the lesson appears to have been forgotten? I wonder if I have not been mistakenly assuming that the lack of acknowledgement of the issue by contemporary proponents of ML was a sign that the issue (GIGO) is so basic as to have been fully internalised. To discover that the knowledge has apparently been lost is more than a little disturbing. Cheers Graham If we take a step back from programming, in a way life can be seen as an algorithm and in the algorithm of life the rich becomes richer and the poor becomes poorer which widens the gap and as a result the poor becomes discriminated against even further. This can also be applied to crypto where those with lots of money to acquire hash power will become richer and the those that cannot afford it becomes poorer. In the POS context those with lots of money to get lots of coins will become richer by staking and those that cannot afford lots of coins will become poorer. This is partly what causes the rush to new coins that we always see where people with little resources try to mine coins quickly at low diff because later they wont be able to afford it and soon large farms are onto a new coin. I don't think it is easy to solve this part of discrimination in life, but it is possible though to collect wealth with little resources with enough planning and being smart about it, eg. by seeing opportunities others don't or by regular saving of small amounts and by your retirement age what seems to have been small amounts are suddenly a large amount.
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September 09, 2015, 02:04:57 PM |
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windows server 2012 last qtwallet vcoin installad and syncro now is online and working setgenerate true -1
and i have in console setgenerate true -1
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 { "blocks" : 306678, "currentblocksize" : 1000, "currentblocktx" : 0, "difficulty" : 29730.11608509, "errors" : "", "generate" : true, "genproclimit" : -1, "hashespersec" : 1219350, "pooledtx" : 0, "testnet" : false }
now i want set one NODE how i can run it??? anyone can help me?? my vcoin address is VV5YJPpKYHKPdwi989VTj2f9EkdaFiDsVc anyone can send any vcoin for verify if my wallet working i think of yes
Thanks for anyone want help me ;-)
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September 09, 2015, 03:56:24 PM |
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windows server 2012 last qtwallet vcoin installad and syncro now is online and working setgenerate true -1
and i have in console setgenerate true -1
getmininginfo
 { "blocks" : 306678, "currentblocksize" : 1000, "currentblocktx" : 0, "difficulty" : 29730.11608509, "errors" : "", "generate" : true, "genproclimit" : -1, "hashespersec" : 1219350, "pooledtx" : 0, "testnet" : false }
now i want set one NODE how i can run it??? anyone can help me?? my vcoin address is VV5YJPpKYHKPdwi989VTj2f9EkdaFiDsVc anyone can send any vcoin for verify if my wallet working i think of yes
Thanks for anyone want help me ;-)
What are you trying to do? Do you want to setup your local wallet as a node?
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September 09, 2015, 05:16:00 PM |
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windows server 2012 last qtwallet vcoin installad and syncro now is online and working setgenerate true -1
and i have in console setgenerate true -1
getmininginfo
 { "blocks" : 306678, "currentblocksize" : 1000, "currentblocktx" : 0, "difficulty" : 29730.11608509, "errors" : "", "generate" : true, "genproclimit" : -1, "hashespersec" : 1219350, "pooledtx" : 0, "testnet" : false }
now i want set one NODE how i can run it??? anyone can help me?? my vcoin address is VV5YJPpKYHKPdwi989VTj2f9EkdaFiDsVc anyone can send any vcoin for verify if my wallet working i think of yes
Thanks for anyone want help me ;-)
What are you trying to do? Do you want to setup your local wallet as a node? yes i want run vcoin node
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September 09, 2015, 07:58:07 PM Last edit: September 10, 2015, 07:25:50 AM by jc12345 |
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yes i want run vcoin node All you do is to install the Windows client. Then in the ...\roaming\vcoin folder you place a file called vcoin.conf. Inside the file put the lines in the block below. Also change the user ID and password to something suitable. You can then also sync up quickly by copying the bootstrap.dat file into the ...\roaming\vcoin folder. Link to bootstrap.dat. rpcuser=yourusername //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcpassword=yourpassword //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcallowip = 127.0.0.1 rpcallowip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx //put in here the IP address of your miner if you want to solo mine rpcport = 9984 //put this port after the IP address of the PC with the wallet on in your miner if you want to solo mine server = 1 daemon = 1 listen = 1 addnode=185.25.22.33:5522 addnode=45.63.1.27:5530 addnode=185.92.222.31 addnode=108.61.117.249 addnode=108.61.10.90 addnode=176.9.26.47 addnode=188.165.2.147 addnode=193.227.134.111 addnode=213.5.65.155 addnode=31.54.135.69 addnode=32.214.108.194 addnode=37.187.99.136 addnode=45.55.140.160 addnode=45.55.236.155 addnode=46.105.118.15 addnode=5.147.116.112 addnode=5.9.36.211 addnode=52.18.54.170 addnode=67.241.161.8 addnode=84.160.239.117 addnode=91.114.115.230 addnode=95.28.130.127 addnode=99.113.26.253
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September 09, 2015, 11:49:15 PM |
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yes i want run vcoin node All you do is to install the Windows client. Then in the ...\roaming\vcoin folder you place a file called vcoin.conf. Inside the file put the lines in the block below. Also change the user ID and password to something suitable. You can then also sync up quickly by copying the bootstrap.dat file into the ...\roaming\vcoin folder. Link to bootstrap.dat. rpcuser=yourusername //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcpassword=yourpassword //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcallowip = 127.0.0.1 rpcallowip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx //put in here the IP address of your miner if you want to solo mine rpcport = 9984 //put in here the IP address of your miner if you want to solo mine server = 1 daemon = 1 listen = 1 addnode=185.25.22.33:5522 addnode=45.63.1.27:5530 addnode=185.92.222.31 addnode=108.61.117.249 addnode=108.61.10.90 addnode=176.9.26.47 addnode=188.165.2.147 addnode=193.227.134.111 addnode=213.5.65.155 addnode=31.54.135.69 addnode=32.214.108.194 addnode=37.187.99.136 addnode=45.55.140.160 addnode=45.55.236.155 addnode=46.105.118.15 addnode=5.147.116.112 addnode=5.9.36.211 addnode=52.18.54.170 addnode=67.241.161.8 addnode=84.160.239.117 addnode=91.114.115.230 addnode=95.28.130.127 addnode=99.113.26.253
Ok i already have wallet installed and already syncro and working. Now i created vcoin.conf in folder ...roaming/Vcoin Vcoin.conf whit your code Restarted The Vcoin wallet In console i setgenerate true -1 AND NOW? 1> HOW I CAN VERIFY MY NODE WORKING ? 2> HOW I CAN VERIFY MY WALLET MINING? Thanks for help me! :-)
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September 10, 2015, 02:57:19 AM |
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yes i want run vcoin node All you do is to install the Windows client. Then in the ...\roaming\vcoin folder you place a file called vcoin.conf. Inside the file put the lines in the block below. Also change the user ID and password to something suitable. You can then also sync up quickly by copying the bootstrap.dat file into the ...\roaming\vcoin folder. Link to bootstrap.dat. rpcuser=yourusername //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcpassword=yourpassword //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcallowip = 127.0.0.1 rpcallowip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx //put in here the IP address of your miner if you want to solo mine rpcport = 9984 //put in here the IP address of your miner if you want to solo mine server = 1 daemon = 1 listen = 1 addnode=185.25.22.33:5522 addnode=45.63.1.27:5530 addnode=185.92.222.31 addnode=108.61.117.249 addnode=108.61.10.90 addnode=176.9.26.47 addnode=188.165.2.147 addnode=193.227.134.111 addnode=213.5.65.155 addnode=31.54.135.69 addnode=32.214.108.194 addnode=37.187.99.136 addnode=45.55.140.160 addnode=45.55.236.155 addnode=46.105.118.15 addnode=5.147.116.112 addnode=5.9.36.211 addnode=52.18.54.170 addnode=67.241.161.8 addnode=84.160.239.117 addnode=91.114.115.230 addnode=95.28.130.127 addnode=99.113.26.253
Ok i already have wallet installed and already syncro and working. Now i created vcoin.conf in folder ...roaming/Vcoin Vcoin.conf whit your code Restarted The Vcoin wallet In console i setgenerate true -1 AND NOW? 1> HOW I CAN VERIFY MY NODE WORKING ? 2> HOW I CAN VERIFY MY WALLET MINING? Thanks for help me! :-) If your wallet is synching and your local chain is updating with blocks and if you can see other connections in the bottom right then your wallet is a node. It seems that you are trying to mine with the built in wallet miner. I would advise against it at this point as the difficulty is too high for CPU mining. The only way to mine it at the moment is with an ASIC miner connected to the wallet. Forgot about using setgenerate. For academic reasons, if you want to know if your wallet built-in miner is working, you can look at your system processes and resource usage and if your CPU is running at 100% then your CPU is mining. If you are connected to your local wallet with an ASIC on your local network, then look in your miner console software to see if it is connected and mining.
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Maicol792
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September 10, 2015, 07:19:35 AM |
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yes i want run vcoin node All you do is to install the Windows client. Then in the ...\roaming\vcoin folder you place a file called vcoin.conf. Inside the file put the lines in the block below. Also change the user ID and password to something suitable. You can then also sync up quickly by copying the bootstrap.dat file into the ...\roaming\vcoin folder. Link to bootstrap.dat. rpcuser=yourusername //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcpassword=yourpassword //put this in your miner if you want to solo mine rpcallowip = 127.0.0.1 rpcallowip = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx //put in here the IP address of your miner if you want to solo mine rpcport = 9984 //put in here the IP address of your miner if you want to solo mine server = 1 daemon = 1 listen = 1 addnode=185.25.22.33:5522 addnode=45.63.1.27:5530 addnode=185.92.222.31 addnode=108.61.117.249 addnode=108.61.10.90 addnode=176.9.26.47 addnode=188.165.2.147 addnode=193.227.134.111 addnode=213.5.65.155 addnode=31.54.135.69 addnode=32.214.108.194 addnode=37.187.99.136 addnode=45.55.140.160 addnode=45.55.236.155 addnode=46.105.118.15 addnode=5.147.116.112 addnode=5.9.36.211 addnode=52.18.54.170 addnode=67.241.161.8 addnode=84.160.239.117 addnode=91.114.115.230 addnode=95.28.130.127 addnode=99.113.26.253
Ok i already have wallet installed and already syncro and working. Now i created vcoin.conf in folder ...roaming/Vcoin Vcoin.conf whit your code Restarted The Vcoin wallet In console i setgenerate true -1 AND NOW? 1> HOW I CAN VERIFY MY NODE WORKING ? 2> HOW I CAN VERIFY MY WALLET MINING? Thanks for help me! :-) If your wallet is synching and your local chain is updating with blocks and if you can see other connections in the bottom right then your wallet is a node. It seems that you are trying to mine with the built in wallet miner. I would advise against it at this point as the difficulty is too high for CPU mining. The only way to mine it at the moment is with an ASIC miner connected to the wallet. Forgot about using setgenerate. For academic reasons, if you want to know if your wallet built-in miner is working, you can look at your system processes and resource usage and if your CPU is running at 100% then your CPU is mining. If you are connected to your local wallet with an ASIC on your local network, then look in your miner console software to see if it is connected and mining. Yes all this... Is one accademic reasons ... Thanks for help ... I searching to learn :-) Now i searching difference from node to Full node :-) Thanks!!!
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September 10, 2015, 07:24:11 AM Last edit: September 10, 2015, 07:53:21 AM by jc12345 |
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Yes all this... Is one accademic reasons ... Thanks for help ... I searching to learn :-) Now i searching difference from node to Full node :-) Thanks!!!
Please correct me if I am wrong but afaik a node is a wallet that is connected to the network whether it has a local chain or not. A full node is a wallet that has the full chain locally. Therefore if your wallet is fully synced and the chain is local on your PC then you are a full node.
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September 12, 2015, 09:35:41 AM |
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Link to updated bootstrap.dat @ block 315,097 (62MB zipped) Checksums sha256 : 07a360e6bbb0aa1dd84fc38d8961e6288be70407846e39491d78a36bae067847 md5 : d84b6b21afd16fc5812612f34f522b54
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September 13, 2015, 04:36:05 AM |
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Yes all this... Is one accademic reasons ... Thanks for help ... I searching to learn :-) Now i searching difference from node to Full node :-) Thanks!!!
Please correct me if I am wrong but afaik a node is a wallet that is connected to the network whether it has a local chain or not. A full node is a wallet that has the full chain locally. Therefore if your wallet is fully synced and the chain is local on your PC then you are a full node. Curious to what situation a connected wallet isn't a node, I thought all local wallets hold a ledger i.e. are full nodes.
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September 13, 2015, 05:50:31 AM |
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Yes all this... Is one accademic reasons ... Thanks for help ... I searching to learn :-) Now i searching difference from node to Full node :-) Thanks!!!
Please correct me if I am wrong but afaik a node is a wallet that is connected to the network whether it has a local chain or not. A full node is a wallet that has the full chain locally. Therefore if your wallet is fully synced and the chain is local on your PC then you are a full node. Curious to what situation a connected wallet isn't a node, I thought all local wallets hold a ledger i.e. are full nodes. Here are some links that talk about when a wallet is a full node. Link1Link2
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September 13, 2015, 05:29:47 PM |
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Purely because I consider it to be within in my “related disciplinary interest” bailiwick ... When Discrimination Is Baked into AlgorithmsA recent ProPublica analysis of The Princeton Review’s prices for online SAT tutoring shows that customers in areas with a high density of Asian residents are often charged more. When presented with this finding, The Princeton Review called it an “incidental” result of its geographic pricing scheme. The case illustrates how even a seemingly neutral price model could potentially lead to inadvertent bias—bias that’s hard for consumers to detect and even harder to challenge or prove.
Hm. We learned in the late 80s that ML was vulnerable to this, how come the lesson appears to have been forgotten? I wonder if I have not been mistakenly assuming that the lack of acknowledgement of the issue by contemporary proponents of ML was a sign that the issue (GIGO) is so basic as to have been fully internalised. To discover that the knowledge has apparently been lost is more than a little disturbing. Cheers Graham If there were more details released about how they are supposed to be charged more, I could maybe make an actual judgement on that, but so far they have essentially made a good work moving forward that shows arrows pointing to a box labeled nothing and that's it.
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September 13, 2015, 06:22:37 PM |
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Nope, no connection. I'm curious why you thought it might be somehow connected. Did you actually think it was or did you consider it unlikely but thought you'd check anyway? Cheers Graham
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September 13, 2015, 08:55:54 PM |
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i did consider it unlikely , but had to check it out anyway
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September 13, 2015, 10:47:36 PM |
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i did consider it unlikely , but had to check it out anyway Had a suspicion that was the case, thanks for indulging my curiosity. I'm obliged to you. Cheers Graham
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September 14, 2015, 09:35:08 AM |
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Glad to seeing peoples to participate in vcoin community
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disamsal
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September 14, 2015, 11:28:50 AM |
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it seems to me like a good coin to baghold
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