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Man, some of you guys are fucking annoying. Get off of Dogie's case, or start a thread dedicated to Dogie bashing so you folks can congregate there and circle jerk each other in privacy so we don't have to continually read your fucking useless drivel.
Since none of you geniuses actually have one of these, I'll comment on them. I've got 3 S4+, and so far they're running great. Not a single issue. They seem much better than what came with S4s, by a long shot. Will they die in 2 months? Who the fuck knows. If BITMAIN is serious about these PSUs, they should send a sample to Oklahoma Wolf over at jonnyguru.com. He'll reveal the truth about this PSU in short order. (BITMAIN: If you're interested in this, I can set it up... Just PM me)
About those 2 pictures posted earlier... The first has nothing to even do with the PSU, it's a heat sink fin loose in the main S4 case. BITMAIN QC failure for sure, things like that are hardware killers. The second picture is of a pinched 12V fan wire inside the PSU. Yep, another QC issue, but one that falls on the PSU OEM, not BITMAIN. BITMAIN can't be expected to open up every PSU to check them out for physical damage, in fact they'd probably cause more problems than they'd catch if they did. What that picture tells me, is that the short circuit protection works perfectly in that PSU, and it saved the PSU from failure. You'd be a fool to think this only happens to BITMAIN hardware. Pinched wires have happened with Delta PSUs, Flextronic PSUs, Seasonic PSUs, etc... Shit happens. It'll just happen much less with the big boys I just mentioned.
Now, this PSU is a no-go for me. 18AWG wires and unknown quality means I'll stick to used server hardware made by the likes of Delta.
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dog1965
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May 21, 2015, 12:24:33 AM |
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Man, some of you guys are fucking annoying. Get off of Dogie's case, or start a thread dedicated to Dogie bashing so you folks can congregate there and circle jerk each other in privacy so we don't have to continually read your fucking useless drivel.
Since none of you geniuses actually have one of these, I'll comment on them. I've got 3 S4+, and so far they're running great. Not a single issue. They seem much better than what came with S4s, by a long shot. Will they die in 2 months? Who the fuck knows. If BITMAIN is serious about these PSUs, they should send a sample to Oklahoma Wolf over at jonnyguru.com. He'll reveal the truth about this PSU in short order. (BITMAIN: If you're interested in this, I can set it up... Just PM me)
About those 2 pictures posted earlier... The first has nothing to even do with the PSU, it's a heat sink fin loose in the main S4 case. BITMAIN QC failure for sure, things like that are hardware killers. The second picture is of a pinched 12V fan wire inside the PSU. Yep, another QC issue, but one that falls on the PSU OEM, not BITMAIN. BITMAIN can't be expected to open up every PSU to check them out for physical damage, in fact they'd probably cause more problems than they'd catch if they did. What that picture tells me, is that the short circuit protection works perfectly in that PSU, and it saved the PSU from failure. You'd be a fool to think this only happens to BITMAIN hardware. Pinched wires have happened with Delta PSUs, Flextronic PSUs, Seasonic PSUs, etc... Shit happens. It'll just happen much less with the big boys I just mentioned.
Now, this PSU is a no-go for me. 18AWG wires and unknown quality means I'll stick to used server hardware made by the likes of Delta.
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May 21, 2015, 12:37:41 AM |
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Man, some of you guys are fucking annoying. Get off of Dogie's case, or start a thread dedicated to Dogie bashing so you folks can congregate there and circle jerk each other in privacy so we don't have to continually read your fucking useless drivel.
Since none of you geniuses actually have one of these, I'll comment on them. I've got 3 S4+, and so far they're running great. Not a single issue. They seem much better than what came with S4s, by a long shot. Will they die in 2 months? Who the fuck knows. If BITMAIN is serious about these PSUs, they should send a sample to Oklahoma Wolf over at jonnyguru.com. He'll reveal the truth about this PSU in short order. (BITMAIN: If you're interested in this, I can set it up... Just PM me)
About those 2 pictures posted earlier... The first has nothing to even do with the PSU, it's a heat sink fin loose in the main S4 case. BITMAIN QC failure for sure, things like that are hardware killers. The second picture is of a pinched 12V fan wire inside the PSU. Yep, another QC issue, but one that falls on the PSU OEM, not BITMAIN. BITMAIN can't be expected to open up every PSU to check them out for physical damage, in fact they'd probably cause more problems than they'd catch if they did. What that picture tells me, is that the short circuit protection works perfectly in that PSU, and it saved the PSU from failure. You'd be a fool to think this only happens to BITMAIN hardware. Pinched wires have happened with Delta PSUs, Flextronic PSUs, Seasonic PSUs, etc... Shit happens. It'll just happen much less with the big boys I just mentioned.
Now, this PSU is a no-go for me. 18AWG wires and unknown quality means I'll stick to used server hardware made by the likes of Delta.
Blah Blah Blah Blah..... All of his comment was very valid. Like a product or not your able to voice your opinion. Eventually it becomes trolling like behavior. Posting meme equivalent images, trying to hurt a product over and over. It becomes bad behavior. |
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May 21, 2015, 01:12:35 AM |
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Man, some of you guys are fucking annoying. Get off of Dogie's case, or start a thread dedicated to Dogie bashing so you folks can congregate there and circle jerk each other in privacy so we don't have to continually read your fucking useless drivel.
Since none of you geniuses actually have one of these, I'll comment on them. I've got 3 S4+, and so far they're running great. Not a single issue. They seem much better than what came with S4s, by a long shot. Will they die in 2 months? Who the fuck knows. If BITMAIN is serious about these PSUs, they should send a sample to Oklahoma Wolf over at jonnyguru.com. He'll reveal the truth about this PSU in short order. (BITMAIN: If you're interested in this, I can set it up... Just PM me)
About those 2 pictures posted earlier... The first has nothing to even do with the PSU, it's a heat sink fin loose in the main S4 case. BITMAIN QC failure for sure, things like that are hardware killers. The second picture is of a pinched 12V fan wire inside the PSU. Yep, another QC issue, but one that falls on the PSU OEM, not BITMAIN. BITMAIN can't be expected to open up every PSU to check them out for physical damage, in fact they'd probably cause more problems than they'd catch if they did. What that picture tells me, is that the short circuit protection works perfectly in that PSU, and it saved the PSU from failure. You'd be a fool to think this only happens to BITMAIN hardware. Pinched wires have happened with Delta PSUs, Flextronic PSUs, Seasonic PSUs, etc... Shit happens. It'll just happen much less with the big boys I just mentioned.
Now, this PSU is a no-go for me. 18AWG wires and unknown quality means I'll stick to used server hardware made by the likes of Delta.
Blah Blah Blah Blah..... All of his comment was very valid. Like a product or not your able to voice your opinion. Eventually it becomes trolling like behavior. Posting meme equivalent images, trying to hurt a product over and over. It becomes bad behavior. Exactly like a product or not you have the right to voice in this case post and image or opinion as many times as you like to as well. when I said blah blah blah I meant its getting repetitive nothing else. and of coarse his comments make a lot of sense "Except the cursing" especially Johnny guru he gives excellent reviews of PSU units. to sum it up this forum reminds me of the jerry springer show that use to air in the USA years ago I don't know if it still does. |
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May 21, 2015, 02:22:36 AM |
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Man, some of you guys are fucking annoying. Get off of Dogie's case, or start a thread dedicated to Dogie bashing so you folks can congregate there and circle jerk each other in privacy so we don't have to continually read your fucking useless drivel.
Since none of you geniuses actually have one of these, I'll comment on them. I've got 3 S4+, and so far they're running great. Not a single issue. They seem much better than what came with S4s, by a long shot. Will they die in 2 months? Who the fuck knows. If BITMAIN is serious about these PSUs, they should send a sample to Oklahoma Wolf over at jonnyguru.com. He'll reveal the truth about this PSU in short order. (BITMAIN: If you're interested in this, I can set it up... Just PM me)
About those 2 pictures posted earlier... The first has nothing to even do with the PSU, it's a heat sink fin loose in the main S4 case. BITMAIN QC failure for sure, things like that are hardware killers. The second picture is of a pinched 12V fan wire inside the PSU. Yep, another QC issue, but one that falls on the PSU OEM, not BITMAIN. BITMAIN can't be expected to open up every PSU to check them out for physical damage, in fact they'd probably cause more problems than they'd catch if they did. What that picture tells me, is that the short circuit protection works perfectly in that PSU, and it saved the PSU from failure. You'd be a fool to think this only happens to BITMAIN hardware. Pinched wires have happened with Delta PSUs, Flextronic PSUs, Seasonic PSUs, etc... Shit happens. It'll just happen much less with the big boys I just mentioned.
Now, this PSU is a no-go for me. 18AWG wires and unknown quality means I'll stick to used server hardware made by the likes of Delta.
Blah Blah Blah Blah..... All of his comment was very valid. Like a product or not your able to voice your opinion. Eventually it becomes trolling like behavior. Posting meme equivalent images, trying to hurt a product over and over. It becomes bad behavior. Exactly like a product or not you have the right to voice in this case post and image or opinion as many times as you like to as well. when I said blah blah blah I meant its getting repetitive nothing else. and of coarse his comments make a lot of sense "Except the cursing" especially Johnny guru he gives excellent reviews of PSU units. to sum it up this forum reminds me of the jerry springer show that use to air in the USA years ago I don't know if it still does. Pot, meet kettle. |
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philipma1957
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May 21, 2015, 04:19:13 AM
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So after all the complaints mine included. No one purchased this to test it?
At bitmaintech :
I have no need for it so I will not buy one , but If you send me one I will test and review it and mail back to your USA
location.
I will run 3 s-3's using a 240 volt source. I will use the 12x 18 gauge cables 4 per s-3 and determine the amps is uses.
I have no interest and gave a fair review of your s-5 I also showed how to mod the s-5 to decent noise levels.
3 s-3's pull about 1200 watts at freq 250 your gear should do a good job running 3 s-3's
I would do a comparison to an evga 1300 running s-3's you should get better watts.
Note I no longer do any signatures and have been known to do fair and accurate reviews.
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May 21, 2015, 04:45:24 AM |
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I can test it with one S5 and send in to your representative in Russia too.  Everyone have seen my freestyle review of S5. |
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philipma1957
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May 21, 2015, 04:52:16 AM |
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I can test it with one S5 and send in to your representative in Russia too. Everyone have seen my freestyle review of S5. It was a good review. With the s-5 you can push the individual pcie cables harder then I can with my s-3's An s-5 at 1300 gh would be a good test of the cables. |
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May 21, 2015, 09:39:39 AM |
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2 s-3's pull about 1200 watts at freq 250 your gear should do a good job running 3 s-3's
I would do a comparison to an evga 1300 running s-3's you should get better watts.
Being realistic, what can we actually test on a PSU without proper DC equipment? "Yes it turns on, yes it didn't explode, yes it powered some miners, yes it consumed this much power". We already know these things from the 100s and 100s of S4s its in. The circlejerk of made up stuff is what needs to change, and it probably will now the guy with 7 different accounts is banned. |
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2 s-3's pull about 1200 watts at freq 250 your gear should do a good job running 3 s-3's
I would do a comparison to an evga 1300 running s-3's you should get better watts.
Being realistic, what can we actually test on a PSU without proper DC equipment? "Yes it turns on, yes it didn't explode, yes it powered some miners, yes it consumed this much power". We already know these things from the 100s and 100s of S4s its in. The circlejerk of made up stuff is what needs to change, and it probably will now the guy with 7 different accounts is banned. Basically. All we (most of us I'd imagine) can do is measure AC in and DC out and come to a very rough efficiency conclusion. Most of us won't be equipped to measure anything else. Dogie, can you ask someone at BITMAIN if they'll stand behind their product by sending a review unit to jonnyguru? I'll gladly put them in touch with Oklahoma Wolf, or even take care of making it happen myself if their English isn't up to snuff. |
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May 21, 2015, 01:28:23 PM |
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2 s-3's pull about 1200 watts at freq 250 your gear should do a good job running 3 s-3's
I would do a comparison to an evga 1300 running s-3's you should get better watts.
Being realistic, what can we actually test on a PSU without proper DC equipment? "Yes it turns on, yes it didn't explode, yes it powered some miners, yes it consumed this much power". We already know these things from the 100s and 100s of S4s its in. The circlejerk of made up stuff is what needs to change, and it probably will now the guy with 7 different accounts is banned. Basically. All we (most of us I'd imagine) can do is measure AC in and DC out and come to a very rough efficiency conclusion. Most of us won't be equipped to measure anything else. Dogie, can you ask someone at BITMAIN if they'll stand behind their product by sending a review unit to jonnyguru? I'll gladly put them in touch with Oklahoma Wolf, or even take care of making it happen myself if their English isn't up to snuff. I could pull out my fluke and tell some about it. I have not had a reason to use it in a while. Normally I use my cheaper gear for just getting readings. I have had 3 S4's all new from Bitmain. All still work great on PSU not a single issue. So I personally have not had a issue with Bitmain PSU's. |
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2 s-3's pull about 1200 watts at freq 250 your gear should do a good job running 3 s-3's
I would do a comparison to an evga 1300 running s-3's you should get better watts.
Being realistic, what can we actually test on a PSU without proper DC equipment? "Yes it turns on, yes it didn't explode, yes it powered some miners, yes it consumed this much power". We already know these things from the 100s and 100s of S4s its in. The circlejerk of made up stuff is what needs to change, and it probably will now the guy with 7 different accounts is banned. Basically. All we (most of us I'd imagine) can do is measure AC in and DC out and come to a very rough efficiency conclusion. Most of us won't be equipped to measure anything else. Dogie, can you ask someone at BITMAIN if they'll stand behind their product by sending a review unit to jonnyguru? I'll gladly put them in touch with Oklahoma Wolf, or even take care of making it happen myself if their English isn't up to snuff. I could pull out my fluke and tell some about it. I have not had a reason to use it in a while. Normally I use my cheaper gear for just getting readings. I have had 3 S4's all new from Bitmain. All still work great on PSU not a single issue. So I personally have not had a issue with Bitmain PSU's. Asking, I guess it depends if they want to sell 100 or 10,000 of them. |
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May 21, 2015, 10:33:57 PM |
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2 s-3's pull about 1200 watts at freq 250 your gear should do a good job running 3 s-3's
I would do a comparison to an evga 1300 running s-3's you should get better watts.
Being realistic, what can we actually test on a PSU without proper DC equipment? "Yes it turns on, yes it didn't explode, yes it powered some miners, yes it consumed this much power". We already know these things from the 100s and 100s of S4s its in. The circlejerk of made up stuff is what needs to change, and it probably will now the guy with 7 different accounts is banned. Basically. All we (most of us I'd imagine) can do is measure AC in and DC out and come to a very rough efficiency conclusion. Most of us won't be equipped to measure anything else. Dogie, can you ask someone at BITMAIN if they'll stand behind their product by sending a review unit to jonnyguru? I'll gladly put them in touch with Oklahoma Wolf, or even take care of making it happen myself if their English isn't up to snuff. I could pull out my fluke and tell some about it. I have not had a reason to use it in a while. Normally I use my cheaper gear for just getting readings. I have had 3 S4's all new from Bitmain. All still work great on PSU not a single issue. So I personally have not had a issue with Bitmain PSU's. Asking, I guess it depends if they want to sell 100 or 10,000 of them. Did you get that fluke for free to ? |
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May 21, 2015, 10:36:41 PM |
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This thing is, on the face of it, a fire hazard!
Once we get an independent, forum trusted reviewer that can give an unbiased opinion (not pretty pictures accompanied by waffle from a certified VAT fraudster) then that opinion can be changed. Is this PSU certified by any EU agency anyway?
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May 21, 2015, 11:13:06 PM |
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2 s-3's pull about 1200 watts at freq 250 your gear should do a good job running 3 s-3's
I would do a comparison to an evga 1300 running s-3's you should get better watts.
Being realistic, what can we actually test on a PSU without proper DC equipment? "Yes it turns on, yes it didn't explode, yes it powered some miners, yes it consumed this much power". We already know these things from the 100s and 100s of S4s its in. The circlejerk of made up stuff is what needs to change, and it probably will now the guy with 7 different accounts is banned. Basically. All we (most of us I'd imagine) can do is measure AC in and DC out and come to a very rough efficiency conclusion. Most of us won't be equipped to measure anything else. Dogie, can you ask someone at BITMAIN if they'll stand behind their product by sending a review unit to jonnyguru? I'll gladly put them in touch with Oklahoma Wolf, or even take care of making it happen myself if their English isn't up to snuff. I could pull out my fluke and tell some about it. I have not had a reason to use it in a while. Normally I use my cheaper gear for just getting readings. I have had 3 S4's all new from Bitmain. All still work great on PSU not a single issue. So I personally have not had a issue with Bitmain PSU's. Asking, I guess it depends if they want to sell 100 or 10,000 of them. Did you get that fluke for free to ? No... i payed quite a bit on it at one time, plus accessories. Looking back I should have spent it on something else.... but I always wanted a fluke. I have not gotten one these for review either..... so might check your sources. |
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May 30, 2015, 10:02:35 AM |
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.... Is this PSU certified by any EU agency anyway?
No. Only  and China Export  logos. No CE logo. |
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philipma1957
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May 30, 2015, 03:41:23 PM |
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and yet to see any testing on this by anyone on any gear.
which shows the current state of home mining is pretty much dead at the moment.
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May 30, 2015, 03:46:24 PM |
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Or the current state of people able to test this thing effectively don't care to put up the $180 for it.
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May 30, 2015, 03:52:47 PM |
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Or the current state of people able to test this thing effectively don't care to put up the $180 for it.
I offerred to test it and return it to the USA rep. They never responded. Other then the dog barking at my generous offer of 2 or 3 days of testing it at no charge to them. and returning it on my dime to I believe Colorado. So no one has offered to prove if it is a platinum psu. or if it is not. |
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May 30, 2015, 04:33:34 PM |
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I also wouldn't mind playing around with one, but I don't have the money to spend on stuff I don't need. I wonder how many they'd sell if it had your stamp of approval? Or conversely, how many they specifically wouldn't sell if it had your stamp of rejection? Maybe they're not willing to make that bet. Or maybe they figure they're selling enough of them anyway that it's not worth coordinationg a handoff.
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