PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas)

[redsn0w]

But why have not the others account* :

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513876
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513834

*received a negative trust from Vod? Armis, do you have created and started the PICISI 'project'? So is not it needed an official account, you can write or say whatever you want (related with the 'project') from your actual account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=225066)?

All these things make me more confusional, and the manage of this situation by both part is really strange.

redsn0w -- the two accounts that you provided links to not authorized to speak on behalf of PICISI.

The account in the photo is the only PICISI account authorized to speak on behalf of PICISI

Thanks for your clarification, so basically someone is trolling and it is really strange that those account posted in the Vod's thread (that it was locked) but who cares ... because everyone can make his own conclusion like me (and remember I am neutral).

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[Vod]

Thanks for your clarification, so basically someone is trolling and it is really strange that those account posted in the Vod's thread (that it was locked) but who cares ... because everyone can make his own conclusion like me (and remember I am neutral).

Oh boy...    I hope this helps you understand.

Pickissy is obviously my alt - I've made no efforts to hide the fact it was my alt. I made it to create a PICISI website exposing Armis' scams.  Armis also made the alt account "PICISI".  Having good morals, I can't continue to let himself pass his fake company as a charity, so I have decided to take action.  I have generously given Armis a week to claim ownership of the phrase.  He's been pretending it's his company for months, but of course it doesn't exist.  So I'm going to form the legal company, trademark the name and make the website.  Then Pickissy will be the only account authorized to speak for the official PICISI website.  The website I make will be nothing like the website Armis continues to claim is coming - mine will be educational and won't be asking for donations.  There will be no way a reasonable person will confuse my legit website with Armis' scam.  He may launch a website later, but it will not be the official PICISI website.

I originally made the account "Offical PICISI" and then the corrected spelling "Official PICISI" but I have decided not to use them because it can be argued I'm trying to impersonate the account "PICISI" and scam donations like Armis is doing.  I may log onto them one more time to replace the important comments word for word with the new Pickissy account, just to avoid future confusion.

I hope everyone understands I can't keep coming back here to defend against Armis' lies about me - "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain  Remember, he does not stand behind his words, so consider whatever he posts with a grain of salt.  He has free reign to lie about me all he wants for the next week.

We're giving you a week Armis - take a shit or get off the toilet!  And no complaining later on when people (and Google) associate the phrase PICISI with an educational website - you have your chance to legitimize yourself now!  

Peace people, I am outta here - we'll continue this in about a week.

[Armis]

Thanks for your clarification, so basically someone is trolling and it is really strange that those account posted in the Vod's thread (that it was locked) but who cares ... because everyone can make his own conclusion like me (and remember I am neutral).

Oh boy...    I hope this helps you understand.

Pickissy is obviously my alt - I've made no efforts to hide the fact it was my alt. I made it to create a PICISI website exposing Armis' scams.  Armis also made the alt account "PICISI".  Having good morals, I can't continue to let himself pass his fake company as a charity, so I have decided to take action.  I have generously given Armis a week to claim ownership of the phrase.  He's been pretending it's his company for months, but of course it doesn't exist.  So I'm going to form the legal company, trademark the name and make the website.  Then Pickissy will be the only account authorized to speak for the official PICISI website.  The website I make will be nothing like the website Armis continues to claim is coming - mine will be educational and won't be asking for donations.  There will be no way a reasonable person will confuse my legit website with Armis' scam.  He may launch a website later, but it will not be the official PICISI website.

I originally made the account "Offical PICISI" and then the corrected spelling "Official PICISI" but I have decided not to use them because it can be argued I'm trying to impersonate the account "PICISI" and scam donations like Armis is doing.  I may log onto them one more time to replace the important comments word for word with the new Pickissy account, just to avoid future confusion.

I hope everyone understands I can't keep coming back here to defend against Armis' lies about me - "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain  Remember, he does not stand behind his words, so consider whatever he posts with a grain of salt.  He has free reign to lie about me all he wants for the next week.

We're giving you a week Armis - take a shit or get off the toilet!  And no complaining later on when people (and Google) associate the phrase PICISI with an educational website - you have your chance to legitimize yourself now!  

Peace people, I am outta here - we'll continue this in about a week.

After all of the other nonsense this doesn't surprise me. 

[redsn0w]

Thanks for your clarification, so basically someone is trolling and it is really strange that those account posted in the Vod's thread (that it was locked) but who cares ... because everyone can make his own conclusion like me (and remember I am neutral).

Oh boy...    I hope this helps you understand.

Pickissy is obviously my alt - I've made no efforts to hide the fact it was my alt. I made it to create a PICISI website exposing Armis' scams.  Armis also made the alt account "PICISI".  Having good morals, I can't continue to let himself pass his fake company as a charity, so I have decided to take action.  I have generously given Armis a week to claim ownership of the phrase.  He's been pretending it's his company for months, but of course it doesn't exist.  So I'm going to form the legal company, trademark the name and make the website.  Then Pickissy will be the only account authorized to speak for the official PICISI website.  The website I make will be nothing like the website Armis continues to claim is coming - mine will be educational and won't be asking for donations.  There will be no way a reasonable person will confuse my legit website with Armis' scam.  He may launch a website later, but it will not be the official PICISI website.

I originally made the account "Offical PICISI" and then the corrected spelling "Official PICISI" but I have decided not to use them because it can be argued I'm trying to impersonate the account "PICISI" and scam donations like Armis is doing.  I may log onto them one more time to replace the important comments word for word with the new Pickissy account, just to avoid future confusion.

I hope everyone understands I can't keep coming back here to defend against Armis' lies about me - "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain  Remember, he does not stand behind his words, so consider whatever he posts with a grain of salt.  He has free reign to lie about me all he wants for the next week.

We're giving you a week Armis - take a shit or get off the toilet!  And no complaining later on when people (and Google) associate the phrase PICISI with an educational website - you have your chance to legitimize yourself now!  

Peace people, I am outta here - we'll continue this in about a week.

After all of the other nonsense this doesn't surprise me. 

It was not a "nice" and good way to resolve the situation, but everyone make his choices (and pay for them). Good luck with 'this battle', I am also waiting both sites.

[Armis]

It has come to my attention that Vod was feed poor intelligence by someone wanting to be a PICISI sponsor, the information did not originate from any PICISI sponsor as we were mislead to believe.  Not one of the 23 PICISI sponsors issued a complaint, requested a refund, or expressed a desire to change their association.

So all of Vod's irresponsible behavior was not in defense of any PICISI's sponsor, that's why he would not tell me who it was because he could not, it was a total fabrication, no sponsor complaint ever existed.

To everyone reading this message PICISI is a good plan, PICISI will be an honorable company, and PICISI will do great things for the CC industry.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be.

Here is what hasn't changed -- sponsorship is 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed, always was, always will be.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Mind answering?

3. Armis if you want transparency you should be posting guarantees about WHO YOU ARE running this venture. Being anonymous is not the right move and sends up some pretty large red flags for me personally.

He always ignores this question.  Why does he have the need to be anonymous?  What is he planning that he doesn't want to be identified? 

IMHO you shouldn't force him to reveal himself. He has the right to be a pseudo-anonymous operator. The only concern is how he store cryptocurrencies. As long as he get a trusted partner who holds money, there won't be a problem. Also, I think he should rephrase his organization's(?) name. "Charity" in it is misleading.

Muhammed the company name is PICISI.  the phrase pertaining to the letters of the name when said out loud as a phrase "Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas" tells you what the company is about what they do, its not designed for any single word to say what the business is, it's meant for all of the words as a phrase to say what the business is about.  Clearly not what most are used to but neither is cryptocurrency. 

PICISI is a crowdfunding site under construction, PICISI is a business plan for a crowdfunding business, and PICISI is not a six word name for a company it's a one-word name with six letters PICISI pronounced (pick-easy).


I asked Vod to play out examples that he feels have exposure so that everyone could know in practical terms where risks exist and the degree of risk, but he ignored it. 

So why don't you setup an example pertaining to PICISI where money, investors, customers, clients, and/or sponsors may be at risk of losing money dealing with PICISI.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but if your company is not a charity why are you using word charity there? I thought it was charity at first and the thread makes me confused...

[Armis]

Mind answering?

3. Armis if you want transparency you should be posting guarantees about WHO YOU ARE running this venture. Being anonymous is not the right move and sends up some pretty large red flags for me personally.

He always ignores this question.  Why does he have the need to be anonymous?  What is he planning that he doesn't want to be identified?  

IMHO you shouldn't force him to reveal himself. He has the right to be a pseudo-anonymous operator. The only concern is how he store cryptocurrencies. As long as he get a trusted partner who holds money, there won't be a problem. Also, I think he should rephrase his organization's(?) name. "Charity" in it is misleading.

Muhammed the company name is PICISI.  the phrase pertaining to the letters of the name when said out loud as a phrase "Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas" tells you what the company is about what they do, its not designed for any single word to say what the business is, it's meant for all of the words as a phrase to say what the business is about.  Clearly not what most are used to but neither is cryptocurrency.  

PICISI is a crowdfunding site under construction, PICISI is a business plan for a crowdfunding business, and PICISI is not a six word name for a company it's a one-word name with six letters PICISI pronounced (pick-easy).


I asked Vod to play out examples that he feels have exposure so that everyone could know in practical terms where risks exist and the degree of risk, but he ignored it.  

So why don't you setup an example pertaining to PICISI where money, investors, customers, clients, and/or sponsors may be at risk of losing money dealing with PICISI.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but if your company is not a charity why are you using word charity there? I thought it was charity at first and the thread makes me confused...

Gisado, Muhammed, and others "... the ... name is PICISI ... The phrase pertaining to the letters of the name when said out loud as a phrase: "Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas" it tells you what the company is about what they do, its not designed for any single word to say what the business is, it's meant for all of the words as a phrase to say what the business is about..."  The company name is not a six-word name, it's a one-word name PICISI pronounced (pick-easy).  The word in the image in the OP is the name of the plan, "the company", the site, the business, the entity, and the endeavor.

PICISI is not a charity, there is nowhere that should say otherwise.  The only proper description given for PICISI is that it is a crowdfunding site.   There are over 15 original articles, and over 100 different publication reprints there are about 7 different threads all telling everyone what PICISI will be, nowhere in that mountain of data is any material indicating that PICISI will be anything other than a crowdfunding site.

PICISI is a crowdfunding start-up currently under construction that will permit campaign organizers to raise funds in fiat and or cryptocurrency for many purposes.  PICISI will have a number of sponsors many of those sponsors will want to associate with the site in order to promote their respective CCs.  Please reference the article on 'sponsors'.  

The PICISI issued currency is Pi, it is a currency for use in the day-to-day business operation of PICISI, it will be used for 4 main purposes:
1) to raised funds for start-up, and for multiple operational licensens worldwide,
2) to be used to pay Promotion Contractors worldwide who do assignments for PICISI
3) to be used as an host CC option for Campaign Organizers,
and
4) to be used as a CC payment option for PICISI sponsors seeing to pay with Pi.
For more information about Pi reference the articles about Pi.

PICISI will be associated with various self-employed people around the world some will be Promotion Contractors who do assignments for PICISI and are paid with Pi, and some will be Campaign Contractors who do assignments for Campaign Organizers and are paid by the organizer.  For more details about Associates and Assignments see the article about PICISI Assignments.


Thanks

[Muhammed Zakir]

Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

[Armis]

Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

That's a very good question but I don't exactly understand it, please rephrase the question with elaboration.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

That's a very good question but I don't exactly understand it, please rephrase the question with elaboration.

I don't understand. If you didn't understand what I asked, how can it be a very good question?

When you raise funds, you need to store it somewhere before giving it to the person who started crowdfunding or is the funds send directly to the user's address when sponsors fund it?

[pickissy]

it's a one-word name PICISI pronounced (pick-easy).

It's pronounced Pick-issy, like my user name.   

[Armis]

it's a one-word name PICISI pronounced (pick-easy).

It's pronounced Pick-issy, like my user name.   

Given your name and your signature you are clearly a fraud.   You are only trying to make it appear that you are related to PICISI but you are not.

As was pointed out by others, Vod the "scam buster" should be trying to root out such fraudulent practices not perpetuating them with these irresponsible actions. 

[Armis]

And now a word from a current PICISI Sponsor who will bring on a new sponsor:

It has come to my attention that Vod was feed poor intelligence by someone wanting to be a PICISI sponsor, the information did not originate from any PICISI sponsor as we were mislead to believe.  Not one of the 23 PICISI sponsors issued a complaint, requested a refund, or expressed a desire to change their association.

So all of Vod's irresponsible behavior was not in defense of any PICISI's sponsor, that's why he would not tell me who it was because he could not, it was a total fabrication, no sponsor complaint ever existed.

To everyone reading this message PICISI is a good plan, PICISI will be an honorable company, and PICISI will do great things for the CC industry.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be.

Here is what hasn't changed -- sponsorship is 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed, always was, always will be.

I have still trust in Armis and his idea and will continue to support it, and as soon as i have everything in personal life sorted will also make my game/site a sponsor.

Keep on the good work!

[pickissy]

Given your name and your signature you are clearly a fraud.   You are only trying to make it appear that you are related to PICISI but you are not.

Only one of us can be officially related to PICISI and the other a fraud.  Right now we each have the claim against the other.  The truth will come out next week when one of us commits, right?     I hope at that time you will stop passing yourself off as officially speaking for the PICISI.

Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

Keep asking Muhammed Zakir!  Don't let him ignore your question!   

[djnocide]

Given your name and your signature you are clearly a fraud.   You are only trying to make it appear that you are related to PICISI but you are not.

Only one of us can be officially related to PICISI and the other a fraud.  Right now we each have the claim against the other.  The truth will come out next week when one of us commits, right?     I hope at that time you will stop passing yourself off as officially speaking for the PICISI.

True that an account created yesterday can represent a project that started 6 months ago. 

[Armis]

Given your name and your signature you are clearly a fraud.   You are only trying to make it appear that you are related to PICISI but you are not.

Only one of us can be officially related to PICISI and the other a fraud.  Right now we each have the claim against the other.  The truth will come out next week when one of us commits, right?    I hope at that time you will stop passing yourself off as officially speaking for the PICISI.

Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

Keep asking Muhammed Zakir!  Don't let him ignore your question!  

If you think you are authorized to speak for PICISI then you answer Muhammed Zakir's question.   That one is for you Fod

[pickissy]

If you think you are authorized to speak for PICISI then you answer Muhammed Zakir's question.

Ok- thank you.  Armis is not authorized to speak for the official PICISI (Pickissy) site or business.

The official PICISI project is not a crowd-funding ptrject and does not collect donations or deposits for distribution.

If Armis requests money under the guise of it going towards a PICISI project, then he is obviously scamming.

Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

Armis will be taking the raised funds and use them for his personal use.  None will be used/stored for official PICISI business.  

[pickissy]

Check out this post that was spammed all over the forum yesterday in seven different place - simple cut and paste.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be.

And now a word from a current PICISI Sponsor who will bring on a new sponsor:

Anyone else notice the intense persuasion there?  Looks like Armis just let "anyone" in again.  And he's now considering comments for possible future support to be "sponsors" - lol

For the record - the official PICISI project will not require sponsors.  Any money given to someone in the promise of a Pickissy sponsorship should consider that person as a scammer.



You still have 6 days Armis.  Shit or get off the pot.  Stop the play time - you are dealing with real money, you need a real business.  After 6 days I will create the official project and will it in a public, legal manner.

[Armis]

Check out this post that was spammed all over the forum yesterday in seven different place - simple cut and paste.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be. [/color]

And now a word from a current PICISI Sponsor who will bring on a new sponsor:

Anyone else notice the intense persuasion there?  Looks like Armis just let "anyone" in again.  And he's now considering comments for possible future support to be "sponsors" - lol

For the record - the official PICISI project will not require sponsors.  Any money given to someone in the promise of a Pickissy sponsorship should consider that person as a scammer.



You still have 6 days Armis.  Shit or get off the pot.  Stop the play time - you are dealing with real money, you need a real business.  After 6 days I will create the official project and will it in a public, legal manner.

Red is old news: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060445.msg11397837#msg11397837

keep up with the thread

[Armis]

Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account- not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how ethical it was while you were thinking about it?
I was unethical as a though, it was unethical when you started to process, it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site that said you would not do such things, it was unethical when you used it to access the site, it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did.
that applies to each of the accounts that you made that have any relation to PICISI.

To call yourself "honest and ethical" after admitting to mass unethical behavior is a liar admitting to being a liar and wanting credit for momentarily telling the truth.