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[Kyraishi]

I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so ........

The upcoming Bitlicense contains a clause that says this.

"Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate."
https://coincenter.org/2015/02/our-initial-thoughts-on-new-yorks-revised-bitlicense-proposal/

If Satoshi was still the active Bitcoin dev that would mean he would be controlling and administering a Virtual Currency. That would qualify as performing a Virtual Currency Business Activity and be subject to licensing. I'm not sure what the license would cost or involve, but it doesn't sound fun to me.

Whether he's a person, or a secret government project, he/it would still require a license.

Yeah, but that applies for the United States right?
From what we know Satoshi was in the UK (which will probably follow U.S example but anyway).
I am saying that based on the coinbase message he put in the genesis block.

[HI-TEC99]

I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so ........

The upcoming Bitlicense contains a clause that says this.

"Decentralized Currency Issuers May Still Require License - The first draft of the BitLicense stated that, “controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency” qualifies as Virtual Currency Business Activity subject to licensing. This remains unchanged in the new draft, and that’s unfortunate."
https://coincenter.org/2015/02/our-initial-thoughts-on-new-yorks-revised-bitlicense-proposal/

If Satoshi was still the active Bitcoin dev that would mean he would be controlling and administering a Virtual Currency. That would qualify as performing a Virtual Currency Business Activity and be subject to licensing. I'm not sure what the license would cost or involve, but it doesn't sound fun to me.

Whether he's a person, or a secret government project, he/it would still require a license.

Yeah, but that applies for the United States right?
From what we know Satoshi was in the UK (which will probably follow U.S example but anyway).
I am saying that based on the coinbase message he put in the genesis block.

I'm not sure but doesn't the BitLicense require anyone doing any kind of business with New York residents to get a license, even if they are located in a foreign country? I know some exchanges were considering refusing to do business with anyone from New York, but I don't know if things have changed since they released the second draft of the license.

[Daniel91]

I just want to say that Satoshi is smart enough not to  reveal his true identity and that he certainly have enough reasons and do so, and that is why we should focus on the issues that we have more info (in more productive ways). if such an opinion is stupid to you, it's okay, I can live with that.
Of course, you can do whatever you want and still research about Satoshi, but please be polite to others who don't think like you.

I didn't say stupid, I said dumb - it's a much lighter/friendlier version 
That being said, I apologize if I offended you. 

Now, are you not the least bit curious as to who Satoshi is and more importantly why do they insist on keeping all the coins they mined?
If the answer is No, then you are lying.
You know how I know that?
Because if you didn't then you wouldn't even bother with this thread 

Yes, I'm curious who Satoshi is, like every bitcoin user in the world, but just don't think that we will find answer to this question.
Maybe I'm wrong but I always try to focus my energy and time on something more productive, where I have enough info and resources etc.
This endless saga about Satoshi will probably never end and can be interesting for some people but if no concrete answers over long period of time I choose to move on to other things.
It's jsat my opinion.

[erre]

Satoshi nakamotoi is also the anagram of:

" So a man took a shit "

I think we found something important here...

[alani123]

What evidence?
All we have are his posts in this forum.

Which brings me to this question:
Why didn't he delete them before he disappeared?

Probably because there is nothing to identify him, but still.....

I wasn't referring to publicly available posts and such. The NSA, supposedly has access to private information like emails, chats and such. That's why people get mad about it. However, for several reasons, I don't think that any kind of private conversations of Satoshi held by the NSA are going to reveal anything to anybody. Firstly, I can't imagine the NSA searching and successfully finding information about Satoshi in the huge stash of information they have collected. I don't think it would even be of their interest to be honest. And even if all this is not true, wouldn't someone else already have revealed such evidence? Satoshi seemed to be extremely careful when it came to revealing his identity, which makes me think that even private conversation wouldn't be useful for that matter.

[crowetic]

I'm sorry, but this thread is friggin hilarious. Thanks for the laugh OP!

[redsn0w]

Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

 

bitcoin has not flaws, if you are thinking the contrary .... then please explain or better illustrate these flaws . Remember that bitcoin was created only few years ago and it can surpass and 'destroy' the actual economic system (because it is better and more easier to use).

Obviously I agree with your later point, you're preaching to the choir.
In regard to flaws (and/or weaknesses), since nothing is perfect, here you go.

• http://gavinandresen.ninja/utxo-uhoh
• http://gavinandresen.ninja/time-to-roll-out-bigger-blocks
• http://hashingit.com/analysis/34-bitcoin-traffic-bulletin
• http://time.com/3689359/bitcoins-track-anonymous/
• https://github.com/bitcoin/bips
• https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses

Hmm interesting 'flaws' but bitcoin is still better (100 times more) than the actual economic system based on banks and FIAT currencies. An human cannot create something 100% perfect (this is obvious) but maybe he can reaches 99% (and remember this is still an experiment).

[sexystick]

Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

 

bitcoin has not flaws, if you are thinking the contrary .... then please explain or better illustrate these flaws . Remember that bitcoin was created only few years ago and it can surpass and 'destroy' the actual economic system (because it is better and more easier to use).

Obviously I agree with your later point, you're preaching to the choir.
In regard to flaws (and/or weaknesses), since nothing is perfect, here you go.

• http://gavinandresen.ninja/utxo-uhoh
• http://gavinandresen.ninja/time-to-roll-out-bigger-blocks
• http://hashingit.com/analysis/34-bitcoin-traffic-bulletin
• http://time.com/3689359/bitcoins-track-anonymous/
• https://github.com/bitcoin/bips
• https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses

Hmm interesting 'flaws' but bitcoin is still better (100 times more) than the actual economic system based on banks and FIAT currencies. An human cannot create something 100% perfect (this is obvious) but maybe he can reaches 99% (and remember this is still an experiment).

Agree

[El Emperador]

A terrifying and apocalyptic scenario could be that NSA ( or some other "big brother" ) created Bitcoin to set up a new global currency in order to associate every address to every person in the world, just to easily control every single transaction of every single user in the world ( 'cause we all know Bitcoin transaction are public ).


In my opinion everything is possible, but this scenario is highly unrealistic. This for 3 main reasons:

1. Bitcoin is open source.
2. Thanks to the aspect above, many developers are able to create new coins, based on Bitcoin algo. Yes, in some cases they made some changes, but the important thing is that they based their coins on BTC. In other words, if Bitcoin never existed, altcoins never existed too, no doubt 'bout it.
A relevant aspect is that Satoshi Nakamoto is still an anonymous, while several altcoins devs are well-know in the community ( like Evan Duffield for example ). So if we have some doubt on Bitcoin cause we don't know who found it, we could simply move to another cryptocoin, which ensure us more privacy are more reliance.
3. If Bitcoin had been created by a so powerful organization ( like NSA ) , at this point, after 6 years, it would be much more popular and adopted all over the world. They would set up a majestic media campaign or even force people to use Bitcoin. Nothing of it happens so I think your theory is quite improbable.

[username18333]

3. If Bitcoin had been created by a so powerful organization ( like NSA ) , at this point, after 6 years, it would be much more popular and adopted all over the world. They would set up a majestic media campaign or even force people to use Bitcoin. Nothing of it happens so I think your theory is quite improbable.

What is the use of voting? We know that the machines of both parties are subsidized by the same persons, and therefore it is useless to turn in either direction.

The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.

[nutildah]

Check this out:

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=satoshi+nakamoto&t=1000

Sorry if someone posted it already, I didnt read the middle 2 pages.

Here's my favorite one, which lets me know for sure it was the Freemasons and not the NSA:

Aha Masons It Took

[BlitzandBitz]

Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

 

bitcoin has not flaws, if you are thinking the contrary .... then please explain or better illustrate these flaws . Remember that bitcoin was created only few years ago and it can surpass and 'destroy' the actual economic system (because it is better and more easier to use).

Obviously I agree with your later point, you're preaching to the choir.
In regard to flaws (and/or weaknesses), since nothing is perfect, here you go.

• http://gavinandresen.ninja/utxo-uhoh
• http://gavinandresen.ninja/time-to-roll-out-bigger-blocks
• http://hashingit.com/analysis/34-bitcoin-traffic-bulletin
• http://time.com/3689359/bitcoins-track-anonymous/
• https://github.com/bitcoin/bips
• https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses

Hmm interesting 'flaws' but bitcoin is still better (100 times more) than the actual economic system based on banks and FIAT currencies. An human cannot create something 100% perfect (this is obvious) but maybe he can reaches 99% (and remember this is still an experiment).

Agreed the inflationary tactics of banks is what causes the boom and bust cycle.

[username18333]

Agreed the inflationary tactics of banks is what causes the boom and bust cycle.

Ancient Babylonian trading markets were as volatile as our own, says an economic historian. Prices of agricultural goods in the city fluctuated hugely, and the death of Alexander the Great triggered two decades of economic instability¹.

[tokeweed]

Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

And the predictable cover-up attempts begin! Just more proof that I'm onto something they don't want people to know about.

LOL. Nice

[erre]

Check this out:

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=satoshi+nakamoto&t=1000

Sorry if someone posted it already, I didnt read the middle 2 pages.

Here's my favorite one, which lets me know for sure it was the Freemasons and not the NSA:

Aha Masons It Took

" satanist oak homo"  is the best imho

[lister storm]

The NSA never started bitcoin. This is a rumor
Bitcoin is about decentralized currency: NSA is the opposite!

[bill gator]

Watching the various videos on You Tube, there are some who are convinced bitcoin was created by the NSA to make us all use one world currency in a one world government

[blablaace]

why would the NSA create Bitcoin? Does not even make sense

[Bitware]

Tin-Foil Hat Alert: Bitcoin certainly would make the perfect currency solution for global governance, to create a cashless society where every transaction could be traced and exist forever in a database that can be looked at later - if all the worlds government would work together (or be taken over). All you would need to do is control every major ISP, which would control what miners would be allowed to access the network, then only the miners who follow the "rules" would be allowed network access. Those "rules" could include registering of addresses, regulation of the protocol, ability to seize coins by court order or bureaucratic mandate, etc... I mean the USA already passed laws and executive orders giving the government control of all communications and the internet for our national security, privacy and our "protection". We call that Net Neutrality, and it spreading all over the world to keep "a free and open internet".... controlled by your favorite dictators in chief... just sayin'.

[LiteCoinGuy]

Please stop these useless conspiracy theories. It does not matter if Satoshi was just a regular man, CIA or NSA agent.
Bitcoin is open source; Bitcoin works and currently has no flaws. It does not matter who created it.
End of story.

And the predictable cover-up attempts begin! Just more proof that I'm onto something they don't want people to know about.

LaudaM is a CIA agent...