[HERO] 0.8 BTC loan to complete freelance project

[amacar]

Hi!

Loan amount: 0.8BTC
Reason: renting servers and building seo farm (freelance order, client will pay me in 2 weeks)
Time length: 16 days
Collateral: my hero bitcointalk account

Best Regards,
Mike

[polynesia]

Hi!

Loan amount: 0.8BTC
Reason: renting servers and building seo farm (freelance order, client will pay me in 2 weeks)
Time length: 16 days
Collateral: my hero bitcointalk account

Best Regards,
Mike

I may be interested in doing this.
What is the interest proposed?

[marcotheminer]

Please ask for a signed message to prove account ownership.

[polynesia]

Agreed.
If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.

[Magic8Ball]

Agreed.
If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.

Be careful while lending. I asked him to prove ownership from an old address, and he showed me one which was edited today 2 minutes before the PM I received.

@amacar_, link: https://twitter.com/amacar_/status/523389923857281024
1Q9wz5n3bbjwtr2QiNe9CoQ9c3bepivgbf

Thank you!

[moneyflow]

when you check his trust page
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=190344

you see this
This user changed his/her password recently.


also if you check security logs then you will find password of this account was changed 2 times
possibly its an hacked account or sold if he doesn't prove ownership

[Vod]

Agreed.
If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.

Be careful while lending. I asked him to prove ownership from an old address, and he showed me one which was edited today 2 minutes before the PM I received.

@amacar_, link: https://twitter.com/amacar_/status/523389923857281024
1Q9wz5n3bbjwtr2QiNe9CoQ9c3bepivgbf

Thank you!

Very large red flag!  Good catch!

I've left the OP negative trust until we can figure out if his account has been hacked.

I'd also like to know why he edited his old post with a new bitcoin address.  

[moneyflow]

Very large red flag!  Good catch!

I've left the OP negative trust until we can figure out if his account has been hacked.

I'd also like to know why he edited his old post with a new bitcoin address.  

offcourse he edited for the loan and foll the lender when they asked for signed message
it reminds me recent scam attempt by a hero member that was happened few days ago
buy accounts at lower price and take a big loan, simple

[peligro]

There were two password changes on 23 and 28 April. There is a gap in posting from 21 to 29 April so it looks like the account was sold through an escrow which for some reason took 5 days. The post style changed to one of poor English.

If it was hacked, we would've seen some complaint by now. It is clearly a bought account and it wouldn't have come cheap considering the trust rating. Makes it even more surprising that such a huge risk was taken for a small profit.

The recent reset may mean that the loan has been given and the account transferred. This thread was started at 7:43am, the edit was done at 9:57am and the password reset at 11:05am. In that case someone bought an Hero account without any ownership proof for 0.8 BTC.

[Neotox]

I got the loan request from this user for 1BTC but i refused it
I offered him max 0.5btc if he can prove ownership via signed message, I learnt from my mistake

[Vod]

OP is now PMing me, saying he is sorry for editing the post, and promising he will not do it again.

I believe he will not do it again - you only need the scam to work once, right?   

[Quickseller]

Agreed.
If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.

Be careful while lending. I asked him to prove ownership from an old address, and he showed me one which was edited today 2 minutes before the PM I received.

@amacar_, link: https://twitter.com/amacar_/status/523389923857281024
1Q9wz5n3bbjwtr2QiNe9CoQ9c3bepivgbf

Thank you!

He can't sign from that address regardless. If you look at the OP from that thread you will see that it belongs to Rollin as the terms of that giveaway is that you post your Rollin deposit address.

[Vod]

He can't sign from that address regardless. If you look at the OP from that thread you will see that it belongs to Rollin as the terms of that giveaway is that you post your Rollin deposit address.

Ah.  He told me via PM the hard drive his wallet was on was destroyed.  

[Quickseller]

As mentioned above, it is probably a sold account. Or it could have been used as collateral for a loan and the lender deleted the posts after the borrower defaulted.

[Neotox]

here is another 6 months old bitcoin address posted by him, if he can sign a message
1PdHRDrRxBsohPRJMxTa5cVLNriEbJUhdP
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=869442.msg9630493#msg9630493

[amacar]

I lost that address! WTF? This is true! Why disk failure is so unlikely for you VOD? Thank you for negative! What a.... 

[Muhammed Zakir]

I lost that address! WTF? This is true! Why disk failure is so unlikely for you VOD? Thank you for negative! What a.... 

Be careful when lying.

He can't sign from that address regardless. If you look at the OP from that thread you will see that it belongs to Rollin as the terms of that giveaway is that you post your Rollin deposit address.

[alani123]

Disk failure isn't unlikely, especially with older drives and operating systems. But it could very well be an excuse, there's no proper way to prove that this is true. I'll have to admit though, Vod's rating on you is rather aggressive, giving the same rating to a lower ranked member would have been more reasonable, aside of that your password wasn't changed for a month's time (else it would be showing on your profile).


Sig campaign swap on March 17:

   Name              : amacar
    Position           : Senior
    Bitcoin Address : 1PdHRDrRxBsohPRJMxTa5cVLNriEbJUhdP
    Posts              : 1292
    Link to stat      : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190344;sa=statPanel

With that said, the account still seems to have a similar style of posting with the one it had in the early days of its creation. Furthermore, the twitter account posted in a message here earlier was also posted in unedited posts from 2014.

And according to that, I pose the following question to Vod:

Would a post from his twitter account verifying that he still owns it serve as appropriate proof that the account wasn't hacked?

I'll attach relevant quotes below.

Following tweet was retweeted by his twitter account on Summer 2014:
https://twitter.com/vineetsonkar/status/481823158375165955

As asked to do so in this post:

5 KTK giveaway on twitter !

Get 5 KTK to retweet this status -> https://twitter.com/vineetsonkar/status/481823158375165955

common spread on twitter

Retweeted as amacar, you don't need to tip me.

This twitter's account's posting history seems to me lining up with the bitcointalk one nicely. Even if the most valuable of the two, the bitcointalk one was hacked, most likely that the twitter one wouldn't come with it ( ).

That's why I'm thinking that if he signed a message through his twitter (instead of a BTC address since he claims that he lost his drive) would be good enough to prove ownership of the account.

[peligro]

Disk failure isn't unlikely, especially with older drives and operating systems. But it could very well be an excuse, there's no proper way to prove that this is true. I'll have to admit though, Vod's rating on you is rather aggressive, giving the same rating to a lower ranked member would have been more reasonable, aside of that your password wasn't changed for a month's time (else it would be showing on your profile).


Sig campaign swap on March 17:

   Name              : amacar
    Position           : Senior
    Bitcoin Address : 1PdHRDrRxBsohPRJMxTa5cVLNriEbJUhdP
    Posts              : 1292
    Link to stat      : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190344;sa=statPanel

With that said, the account still seems to have a similar style of posting with the one it had in the early days of its creation. Furthermore, the twitter account posted in a message here earlier was also posted in unedited posts from 2014.

And according to that, I pose the following question to Vod:

Would a post from his twitter account verifying that he still owns it serve as appropriate proof that the account wasn't hacked?

I'll attach relevant quotes below.

Following tweet was retweeted by his twitter account on Summer 2014:
https://twitter.com/vineetsonkar/status/481823158375165955

As asked to do so in this post:

5 KTK giveaway on twitter !

Get 5 KTK to retweet this status -> https://twitter.com/vineetsonkar/status/481823158375165955

common spread on twitter

Retweeted as amacar, you don't need to tip me.

This twitter's account's posting history seems to me lining up with the bitcointalk one nicely. Even if the most valuable of the two, the bitcointalk one was hacked, most likely that the twitter one wouldn't come with it ( ).

That's why I'm thinking that if he signed a message through his twitter (instead of a BTC address since he claims that he lost his drive) would be good enough to prove ownership of the account.

He edited an old post today trying to use it claim the loan. Besides being dishonest, it shows a lack of understanding of this forum, which doesn't fit with someone of 500+ activity, 1.3k+ posts.

Its clearly a bought account. He thought that he could make a quick profit by taking a loan based on the rating.

[alani123]

He edited an old post today trying to use it claim the loan. How do you explain that? At the minimum it shows a lack of understanding of this forum, which doesn't fit with someone of 500+ activity, 1.3k+ posts.

Its clearly a bought account. He thought that he could make a quick profit by taking a loan based on the rating.

Do you think that the (supposedly) bought account came along wit the twitter one? Sounds unlikely to me, not impossible though.