amacar (OP)
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May 15, 2015, 07:43:35 AM |
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Hi!
Loan amount: 0.8BTC Reason: renting servers and building seo farm (freelance order, client will pay me in 2 weeks) Time length: 16 days Collateral: my hero bitcointalk account
Best Regards, Mike
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polynesia
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May 15, 2015, 08:06:50 AM |
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Hi!
Loan amount: 0.8BTC Reason: renting servers and building seo farm (freelance order, client will pay me in 2 weeks) Time length: 16 days Collateral: my hero bitcointalk account
Best Regards, Mike
I may be interested in doing this. What is the interest proposed?
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marcotheminer
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May 15, 2015, 08:43:28 AM |
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Please ask for a signed message to prove account ownership.
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polynesia
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May 15, 2015, 09:25:14 AM |
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Agreed. If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.
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Magic8Ball
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May 15, 2015, 11:24:15 AM |
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Agreed. If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.
Be careful while lending. I asked him to prove ownership from an old address, and he showed me one which was edited today 2 minutes before the PM I received.
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moneyflow
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May 15, 2015, 11:44:41 AM |
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when you check his trust page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=190344you see this This user changed his/her password recently. also if you check security logs then you will find password of this account was changed 2 times possibly its an hacked account or sold if he doesn't prove ownership
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Vod
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May 15, 2015, 11:50:39 AM |
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Agreed. If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.
Be careful while lending. I asked him to prove ownership from an old address, and he showed me one which was edited today 2 minutes before the PM I received. Very large red flag! Good catch! I've left the OP negative trust until we can figure out if his account has been hacked. I'd also like to know why he edited his old post with a new bitcoin address. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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moneyflow
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May 15, 2015, 11:57:16 AM |
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Very large red flag! Good catch! I've left the OP negative trust until we can figure out if his account has been hacked. I'd also like to know why he edited his old post with a new bitcoin address. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) offcourse he edited for the loan and foll the lender when they asked for signed message it reminds me recent scam attempt by a hero member that was happened few days ago buy accounts at lower price and take a big loan, simple
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peligro
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May 15, 2015, 12:04:31 PM |
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There were two password changes on 23 and 28 April. There is a gap in posting from 21 to 29 April so it looks like the account was sold through an escrow which for some reason took 5 days. The post style changed to one of poor English.
If it was hacked, we would've seen some complaint by now. It is clearly a bought account and it wouldn't have come cheap considering the trust rating. Makes it even more surprising that such a huge risk was taken for a small profit.
The recent reset may mean that the loan has been given and the account transferred. This thread was started at 7:43am, the edit was done at 9:57am and the password reset at 11:05am. In that case someone bought an Hero account without any ownership proof for 0.8 BTC.
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Neotox
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May 15, 2015, 12:06:23 PM |
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I got the loan request from this user for 1BTC but i refused it I offered him max 0.5btc if he can prove ownership via signed message, I learnt from my mistake ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Available PM me to rent this space.
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Vod
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May 15, 2015, 12:33:52 PM |
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OP is now PMing me, saying he is sorry for editing the post, and promising he will not do it again. I believe he will not do it again - you only need the scam to work once, right? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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Quickseller
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May 15, 2015, 12:38:13 PM |
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Agreed. If ownership is proven by signing a message with an address posted more than 6 months back (in an unedited post), I will do this loan.
Be careful while lending. I asked him to prove ownership from an old address, and he showed me one which was edited today 2 minutes before the PM I received. He can't sign from that address regardless. If you look at the OP from that thread you will see that it belongs to Rollin as the terms of that giveaway is that you post your Rollin deposit address.
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Vod
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May 15, 2015, 12:46:29 PM |
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He can't sign from that address regardless. If you look at the OP from that thread you will see that it belongs to Rollin as the terms of that giveaway is that you post your Rollin deposit address.
Ah. He told me via PM the hard drive his wallet was on was destroyed. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Quickseller
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May 15, 2015, 12:50:26 PM |
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As mentioned above, it is probably a sold account. Or it could have been used as collateral for a loan and the lender deleted the posts after the borrower defaulted.
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amacar (OP)
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May 15, 2015, 12:55:28 PM |
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I lost that address! WTF? This is true! Why disk failure is so unlikely for you VOD? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Thank you for negative! What a....
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Muhammed Zakir
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May 15, 2015, 01:02:35 PM |
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I lost that address! WTF? This is true! Why disk failure is so unlikely for you VOD? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Thank you for negative! What a.... Be careful when lying. He can't sign from that address regardless. If you look at the OP from that thread you will see that it belongs to Rollin as the terms of that giveaway is that you post your Rollin deposit address.
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alani123
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May 15, 2015, 01:36:48 PM |
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Disk failure isn't unlikely, especially with older drives and operating systems. But it could very well be an excuse, there's no proper way to prove that this is true. I'll have to admit though, Vod's rating on you is rather aggressive, giving the same rating to a lower ranked member would have been more reasonable, aside of that your password wasn't changed for a month's time (else it would be showing on your profile). Sig campaign swap on March 17: With that said, the account still seems to have a similar style of posting with the one it had in the early days of its creation. Furthermore, the twitter account posted in a message here earlier was also posted in unedited posts from 2014. And according to that, I pose the following question to Vod: Would a post from his twitter account verifying that he still owns it serve as appropriate proof that the account wasn't hacked? I'll attach relevant quotes below. Following tweet was retweeted by his twitter account on Summer 2014: https://twitter.com/vineetsonkar/status/481823158375165955As asked to do so in this post: Retweeted as amacar, you don't need to tip me. This twitter's account's posting history seems to me lining up with the bitcointalk one nicely. Even if the most valuable of the two, the bitcointalk one was hacked, most likely that the twitter one wouldn't come with it ( ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ). That's why I'm thinking that if he signed a message through his twitter (instead of a BTC address since he claims that he lost his drive) would be good enough to prove ownership of the account.
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peligro
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May 15, 2015, 02:00:43 PM |
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Disk failure isn't unlikely, especially with older drives and operating systems. But it could very well be an excuse, there's no proper way to prove that this is true. I'll have to admit though, Vod's rating on you is rather aggressive, giving the same rating to a lower ranked member would have been more reasonable, aside of that your password wasn't changed for a month's time (else it would be showing on your profile). Sig campaign swap on March 17: With that said, the account still seems to have a similar style of posting with the one it had in the early days of its creation. Furthermore, the twitter account posted in a message here earlier was also posted in unedited posts from 2014. And according to that, I pose the following question to Vod: Would a post from his twitter account verifying that he still owns it serve as appropriate proof that the account wasn't hacked? I'll attach relevant quotes below. Following tweet was retweeted by his twitter account on Summer 2014: https://twitter.com/vineetsonkar/status/481823158375165955As asked to do so in this post: Retweeted as amacar, you don't need to tip me. This twitter's account's posting history seems to me lining up with the bitcointalk one nicely. Even if the most valuable of the two, the bitcointalk one was hacked, most likely that the twitter one wouldn't come with it ( ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ). That's why I'm thinking that if he signed a message through his twitter (instead of a BTC address since he claims that he lost his drive) would be good enough to prove ownership of the account. He edited an old post today trying to use it claim the loan. Besides being dishonest, it shows a lack of understanding of this forum, which doesn't fit with someone of 500+ activity, 1.3k+ posts. Its clearly a bought account. He thought that he could make a quick profit by taking a loan based on the rating.
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alani123
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May 15, 2015, 02:02:53 PM |
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He edited an old post today trying to use it claim the loan. How do you explain that? At the minimum it shows a lack of understanding of this forum, which doesn't fit with someone of 500+ activity, 1.3k+ posts.
Its clearly a bought account. He thought that he could make a quick profit by taking a loan based on the rating.
Do you think that the (supposedly) bought account came along wit the twitter one? Sounds unlikely to me, not impossible though.
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