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May 16, 2015, 01:24:02 AM |
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I was just wondering because if mtgox was responsible for making the fake increase of the price of bitcoin, then how come it remained at $200 and why it did not fell down to $10 like before?
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May 16, 2015, 01:51:55 AM Last edit: May 16, 2015, 02:32:33 AM by franky1 |
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I was just wondering because if mtgox was responsible for making the fake increase of the price of bitcoin, then how come it remained at $200 and why it did not fell down to $10 like before?
mtgox was not responsible for much of the increases.. that was the hype from chinese exchanges that people then sheep followed on US exchanges. but when mtgox finally tumbled and closed its doors(withdrawals), alot of people stopped sheep following mtgox as the funds could not be transfered out and so they realized it had no impact any longer on real trades. and that is why mtgox sunk to $100 while at the time(winter time 2013-14,), the other exchanges remained at $500ish .. and all i have to say to that is thank god there were more intelligent investors, rather than MTGOX devoted sheeple.
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May 16, 2015, 02:21:06 AM |
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I'm not sure why it did not fall to $10 USD when Mt Gox fall. Well, my guess is that more people get to know about Bitcoin because of the fall. Thus, the price did not went below $100 USD.
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May 16, 2015, 02:39:51 AM |
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I was just wondering because if mtgox was responsible for making the fake increase of the price of bitcoin, then how come it remained at $200 and why it did not fell down to $10 like before?
MtGox was only one of many variables. The price seems to have finally digested all the various news and stabilized. I would say $10 is probably not in the near future, but with bitcoin you never know. Without some major shift is sentiment, we could be trading in this range for a long time.
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May 16, 2015, 03:55:10 AM |
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Remember that MtGox wasn't the only exchange. Even if they had some fake orders that were manipulating price that wouldn't be consistent with all the other exchanges. Bitcoin definitely had some enthusiasm bubbles that would have happened anyway.
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May 16, 2015, 04:14:35 AM |
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I don't think they are as big of a factor as you may believe they are. There are too many traders to fully believe that would be possible.
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lahm-44
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May 16, 2015, 04:17:49 AM |
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the price has been droped 800% but we still are here because this currency has impressed us and still it is developing is a good speed.yes we faced a fall but we will reach there again without any mtgox everyone is serious now
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May 16, 2015, 04:21:55 AM |
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I was just wondering because if mtgox was responsible for making the fake increase of the price of bitcoin, then how come it remained at $200 and why it did not fell down to $10 like before?
people accuse Gox from the 200-1000+ rise, not all rise since the 10. And with or withou Willy bot more people are using BTC and more people know about it, so the rise
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May 16, 2015, 04:26:08 AM |
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The market just corrects at any one time. That is just the natural price with with all past market thought.
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May 16, 2015, 06:18:57 AM |
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because 10 is no nense, there will be always a demand for bitcoin no matter what will happen, that demand say that bitcoin is worth 200
also falling from 1200(fake pump) to 200, it's not the same as falling from 200(real floor) to 10, but not just because of the big differece x6 vs x20 but because it was a natural grow
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Kyraishi
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May 16, 2015, 07:24:27 AM |
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$200 is what the demand and supply agreed upon as a fair price right now. The real question should be: Are we going to see prices over $1000 again without another willy bot?
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neoneros
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May 16, 2015, 08:10:55 AM |
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Guess it is the natural value for the coin at the moment in the market. It is profitable for the miners and if it is staying stable we could get more adoption in the economy, stores have more trust in a coin that has a stable value, it is nice if you can print a pricetag for your product and you do not have to change it every drop or rise of the currency.
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May 16, 2015, 10:22:17 AM |
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asia plays probably the biggest role here. it's because of them that the difficulty has seen a massive rise while you would think with a significant lower price the difficulty would plummet hard.
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Fiat_Hodler
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May 16, 2015, 10:40:40 AM |
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Ye how is price remaining in the 200s... Should probably be higher :{)
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May 16, 2015, 10:57:37 AM |
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$200 is what the demand and supply agreed upon as a fair price right now. The real question should be: Are we going to see prices over $1000 again without another willy bot?
No of course, the real second question... will you buy 1 bitcoin for 1'000 dollars? I do no think you will buy it . Ye how is price remaining in the 200s... Should probably be higher :{)
It seems this is the real bitcoin price, we are crashe from 1k dollars to 150 dollars .... and now we are here for a couple of months 200-300 dollars. Some users asking for 1k dollars but the price (not the value) can't never reach 500 dollars .
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May 16, 2015, 12:44:41 PM |
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$200 is what the demand and supply agreed upon as a fair price right now. The real question should be: Are we going to see prices over $1000 again without another willy bot?
No of course, the real second question... will you buy 1 bitcoin for 1'000 dollars? I do no think you will buy it . Ye how is price remaining in the 200s... Should probably be higher :{)
It seems this is the real bitcoin price, we are crashe from 1k dollars to 150 dollars .... and now we are here for a couple of months 200-300 dollars. Some users asking for 1k dollars but the price (not the value) can't never reach 500 dollars . People who are asking for $1K Bitcoin while the price barely can manage to come close to $300 are clowns. They don't know how this market works. Typically get rich quick noobs.
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HeliKopterBen
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May 16, 2015, 02:30:59 PM |
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Volume since the beginning of the year has been the highest in bitcoin history, yet the price has remained fairly stable, meaning a lot of accumulation is going on. In fact volume is at a rate where each coin in existence gets turned over roughly once a month. I wouldn't be surprised if some shenanigans such as naked short selling or some other fake selling is going on here near the end of the bear market, just as gox had some shenanigans going on at the top of the bull market.
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May 16, 2015, 02:39:41 PM |
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Volume since the beginning of the year has been the highest in bitcoin history, yet the price has remained fairly stable, meaning a lot of accumulation is going on. In fact volume is at a rate where each coin in existence gets turned over roughly once a month. I wouldn't be surprised if some shenanigans such as naked short selling or some other fake selling is going on here near the end of the bear market, just as gox had some shenanigans going on at the top of the bull market. Volumes are most China fake market maker trades, 0 trade fee, 100 btc traded 1000 times = 100,000 volumes, just like this. accumulation is going on? how about they are all bag holders victims?
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May 16, 2015, 02:43:42 PM |
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$200 is what the demand and supply agreed upon as a fair price right now. The real question should be: Are we going to see prices over $1000 again without another willy bot?
No of course, the real second question... will you buy 1 bitcoin for 1'000 dollars? I do no think you will buy it . Ye how is price remaining in the 200s... Should probably be higher :{)
It seems this is the real bitcoin price, we are crashe from 1k dollars to 150 dollars .... and now we are here for a couple of months 200-300 dollars. Some users asking for 1k dollars but the price (not the value) can't never reach 500 dollars . People who are asking for $1K Bitcoin while the price barely can manage to come close to $300 are clowns. They don't know how this market works. Typically get rich quick noobs. Yes of course but those people are not asking "1k dollars * bitcoin" they hope to see bitcoin at 1k dollars. I think sooner or later the next halving will cause a raise of the bitcoin price (not value) most probable around 500 dollars. Volume since the beginning of the year has been the highest in bitcoin history, yet the price has remained fairly stable, meaning a lot of accumulation is going on. In fact volume is at a rate where each coin in existence gets turned over roughly once a month. I wouldn't be surprised if some shenanigans such as naked short selling or some other fake selling is going on here near the end of the bear market, just as gox had some shenanigans going on at the top of the bull market. Volumes are most China fake market maker trades, 0 trade fee, 100 btc traded 1000 times = 100,000 volumes, just like this. accumulation is going on? how about they are all bag holders victims? Exactly, the volume is not related with the bitcoin price anymore. everyone can do these thing... also the same exchangers (who knows)? The can move their internal btc and generate a lot of fake volume.
For this purpose I have created this thread with this title "Do you really think bitcoin price will pump to 1000 dollars after...." ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062360.0).
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HeliKopterBen
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May 16, 2015, 02:50:57 PM |
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Volume since the beginning of the year has been the highest in bitcoin history, yet the price has remained fairly stable, meaning a lot of accumulation is going on. In fact volume is at a rate where each coin in existence gets turned over roughly once a month. I wouldn't be surprised if some shenanigans such as naked short selling or some other fake selling is going on here near the end of the bear market, just as gox had some shenanigans going on at the top of the bull market. Volumes are most China fake market maker trades, 0 trade fee, 100 btc traded 1000 times = 100,000 volumes, just like this. accumulation is going on? how about they are all bag holders victims? We are in an accumulation phase. Those holding fiat are the bagholders.
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