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Question: How likely do you think it is that "EhVedadooAnonimato" user in this forum is Satoshi?
I would say 90% likely - 10 (22.7%)
I would say 60-80% likely - 0 (0%)
I would say 40-60% likely - 1 (2.3%)
I would say 20-40% likely - 3 (6.8%)
I would say 0-20% likely - 30 (68.2%)
Total Voters: 44

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May 17, 2015, 01:14:45 PM
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OH!

Now I get it....

The OP is obsessed about finding Satoshi.
Check out his signature:

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I am 100% sure that Satoshi Nakamoto is António Franco Alexandre, a bright old-school mathematician from Harvard.

OP, you need to relax a bit.  Wink

I think the OP is talking about his forum account (here at bitcointalk.org).


who is António Franco Alexandre?

I think:

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I am 100% sure that Satoshi Nakamoto is António Franco Alexandre, a bright old-school mathematician from Harvard.

More info here : http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_Franco_Alexandre  (Portuguese language).
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May 17, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
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who is António Franco Alexandre?

A kind of Richard Feynman with a level of knowledge that defeats explanation.
A genius. A very elegant and intelligent man with a very tender sense of humour.
Definitely an extremely high IQ, well versed in the mastery of languages,
(Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian, English, but also a bit of German and Hebraic...)
Found of the Japanese culture; a libertarian and progessist; a very modern intellectual.
A very sensible man, with a very centered heart.
A bright mathematician that finds Fermat's theorem and its proof fascinating; that finds gold, water, sun and moon fascinating. In a word, Satoshi.
The kind of intelligence that would learn the fundamentals of C++, to the level of knowledge of Bjarne Stroustrup, the creator of C++, in a weekend or two...
A guy that is always surprising you by how much he knows, and that will know that it is Roberto Benigni you mean, and not Noam Chomsky or William Gibson or John Searl or Bertrand Russell or John Travolta or Donald Trump or Rupert Murdoch or Warren Buffet. Who else? Satoshi.
Literally, there is nothing you can throw at him that he doesn't already know. The real dad... Uncle Sam!

A fascinating man.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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May 17, 2015, 02:15:14 PM
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who is António Franco Alexandre?

A kind of Richard Feynman with a level of knowledge that defeats explanation.
A genius. A very elegant and intelligent man with a very tender sense of humour.
Definitely an extremely high IQ, well versed in the mastery of languages,
(Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian, English, but also a bit of German and Hebraic...)
Found of the Japanese culture; a libertarian and progessist; a very modern intellectual.
A very sensible man, with a very centered heart.
A bright mathematician that finds Fermat's theorem and its proof fascinating; that finds gold, water, sun and moon fascinating. In a word, Satoshi.
The kind of intelligence that would learn the fundamentals of C++, to the level of knowledge of Bjarne Stroustrup, the creator of C++, in a weekend or two...
A guy that is always surprising you by how much he knows, and that will know that it is Roberto Benigni you mean, and not Noam Chomsky or William Gibson or John Searl or Bertrand Russell or John Travolta or Donald Trump or Rupert Murdoch or Warren Buffet. Who else? Satoshi.
Literally, there is nothing you can throw at him that he doesn't already know. The real dad... Uncle Sam!

A fascinating man.

By the way you described him, it seems that you are very fond of him to know some details about him. The wikipedia page doesn't state anything about the details you've just put in here. He's a linguist, if he mastered several languages. But how can we link this certain man to Satoshi, given that we only have limited knowledge about Satoshi himself?

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May 17, 2015, 02:35:59 PM
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Yes, he is definitely quite knowledgeable about linguistics, modern formal logic and stuff.
Among many other things like Ethics, Economics and world affairs.
A bit like Noam Chomsky, I would say, but more of a mathematician, able to go deep into Modern Algebra and stuff.
He doesn't have made any contributions to cryptography but he certainly can go much deeper into it than 99.9% of the people can.
This is a guy with an IQ of 195, that studied Mathematics at Harvard in the 60's.
There is no way he doesn't understand 99% of Satoshi's whitepaper. That's simply impossible to believe, for me, at least.

I really have no doubts he is Satoshi and I know that time will prove me right.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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May 17, 2015, 02:54:56 PM
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Yes, he is definitely quite knowledgeable about linguistics, modern formal logic and stuff.
Among many other things like Ethics, Economics and world affairs.
A bit like Noam Chomsky, I would say, but more of a mathematician, able to go deep into Modern Algebra and stuff.
He doesn't have made any contributions to cryptography but he certainly can go much deeper into it than 99.9% of the people can.
This is a guy with an IQ of 195, that studied Mathematics at Harvard in the 60's.
There is no way he doesn't understand 99% of Satoshi's whitepaper. That's simply impossible to believe, for me, at least.

I really have no doubts he is Satoshi and I know that time will prove me right.

Idk if this reasons and statements are enough to link this certain man to Satoshi. I mean, come on. As I've said before, we aren't even that familiar to the identity of Satoshi; we only got a clue of who he is by the way he posts and talks about different matters, but that's all. Heck, we don't even know whether this is a group of people or a single individual after all.

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May 17, 2015, 02:58:32 PM
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who is António Franco Alexandre?

A kind of Richard Feynman with a level of knowledge that defeats explanation.
A genius. A very elegant and intelligent man with a very tender sense of humour.
Definitely an extremely high IQ, well versed in the mastery of languages,
(Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian, English, but also a bit of German and Hebraic...)
Found of the Japanese culture; a libertarian and progessist; a very modern intellectual.
A very sensible man, with a very centered heart.
A bright mathematician that finds Fermat's theorem and its proof fascinating; that finds gold, water, sun and moon fascinating. In a word, Satoshi.
The kind of intelligence that would learn the fundamentals of C++, to the level of knowledge of Bjarne Stroustrup, the creator of C++, in a weekend or two...
A guy that is always surprising you by how much he knows, and that will know that it is Roberto Benigni you mean, and not Noam Chomsky or William Gibson or John Searl or Bertrand Russell or John Travolta or Donald Trump or Rupert Murdoch or Warren Buffet. Who else? Satoshi.
Literally, there is nothing you can throw at him that he doesn't already know. The real dad... Uncle Sam!

A fascinating man.
I don't think that guy is ehvedadooanonimato. After reading many of his posts I am very inclined (not to say certain) he is brazilian, not portuguese. Some things also make me guess he is from São Paulo to be more accurate.
The way he writes + what he writes + his nickname + knowledge on brazilian laws and small things such as ICMS, Nota Fiscal paulista etc make me nearly certain he is brazilian. On the other hand timestamp is more correlated to a person from portugal with regular sleep pattern, unless he is a night person or gets up very early like many people.
I am sorry but judging from the way you flauntly write about him, makes it seem you are antonio yourself.

Ehvedado does not double space ponctuate like satoshi.
Satoshi wants to stay anonymous and these discussions don't take us anywhere.

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May 17, 2015, 03:21:11 PM
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I don't think that guy is ehvedadooanonimato. After reading many of his posts I am very inclined (not to say certain) he is brazilian, not portuguese. Some things also make me guess he is from São Paulo to be more accurate.
The way he writes + what he writes + his nickname + knowledge on brazilian laws and small things such as ICMS, Nota Fiscal paulista etc make me nearly certain he is brazilian.

Yes, you are right and it makes perfect sense to think he 'ehvedadooanonimato' is brazilian, from São Paulo, but then again if he is the Satoshi I have in mind, quite interested in world affairs and stuff, wouldn't be hard to believe he reads publications like "Revista Veja" magazine.
Back in that time, he would only need to read an article like http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/economia/nota-fiscal-paulistana-comeca-a-valer-hoje/
to get to grips with convincingly seem Brazilian.
I get your point, but you have to consider all angles since we are talking of such an elusive man as Satoshi.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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Perhaps you have created this in response to the NYT article that points to Nick Szabo (and fair enough if so).

But in any case what exactly is the point of your "poll" as you surely realise that any "poll" on this forum is 100% rubbish (as the outcome will be controlled by sockpuppets)?

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Perhaps you have created this in response to the NYT article that points to Nick Szabo (and fair enough if so).

But in any case what exactly is the point of your "poll" as you surely realise that any "poll" on this forum is 100% rubbish (as the outcome will be controlled by sockpuppets)?


Quite so; I think I was ignited by that.

The poll was just to make the topic more interesting and engaging; I knew it wouldn't be telling much.

I don't believe for one second in the Nick Szabo being Satoshi theory, indeed.
But bitcoin name was certainly inspired by 'bit gold' name I reckon. It is a bit of 'digicash' and a bit of 'bitgold' name, I guess, with the subtle irony that the ledger makes this new form of money 'thingness' very different from the physical and tangible coins we are used to.

Once my uncle, I think this was around 1997, was telling me:
"The real thing is focusing on something that really prevails everyone's affairs.", and he asked, "what do you think is that one think you could be studying that affects everyone's life?"
I was a young man studying Electrical Engineering at that time, and I answered promptly, a bit proud of myself, "Electricity, of course."
Another time he asked me what was the one things that I would be able to teach our ancients if I could go back in time. What would be the revealing and enlightening things I could bring there with me, with the knowledge I got from our time.

These are the kind of little things that make me think my uncle is Satoshi. And the more I think of it the more it makes sense. It makes it all look much more than plausible, it simply leaves me without any doubt that could only been him.

I know this will sound really delusional; but one day I am sure you will all acknowledge that I was right, and that my certainty was not as trivial as it may seem.

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May 17, 2015, 05:36:49 PM
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There's nothing that points to satoshi in a clear way after evaluating his posts. None of what he said compromised satoshi if he said exactly the same under his main account, therefore, there are no reasons to believe this was a satoshi alt.
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That nick was borrowed from of the 5th article of Brazilian Constitution (4th item).

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IV - é livre a manifestação do pensamento, sendo vedado o anonimato;

LOL!
Brazillian!!!!

No wonder the OP couldn't translate EhVedadooAnonimato's Portuguese to English...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

"The manifestation of thought is free, being forbidden the anonimity."

The person behind that nick is mockering about this article.

So wait...
If I understand correctly, they are saying that:
You can express your thought's freely, as long as you don't do it anonymously.

Is that correct?

Yes, in theory you can't do this anonymously, although the general public doesn't care (and putting a nick which means "it's forbidden the anonimity" clearly show this).

Anyway in 2014 an called Secret was banned in Brazil exactly for being anonymous (and combined with the bad use of people were doing of it).
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LOL. And I'm 100% sure the guy is not.
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He cant be him because the patern of their posts are not the same

Satoshi posts



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Satoshi has a unique post pattern that can't compare to anyone. You can see almost zero post in some hours of the day and a very activity in others. I think his post pattern is the key to find and his real id. And this pattern i see a man from Europe. He cant be from Usa or Asia.

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Satoshi has a unique post pattern that can't compare to anyone. You can see almost zero post in some hours of the day and a very activity in others.

I'm no expert on the topic but the easiest assumption to come to would be that he had some stable sleep/work schedules.

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May 17, 2015, 11:43:12 PM
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And a stable sleep/work mean that he is not a developer

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I am sure that Ehbeda is not satoshi. Too many people posting BS and saying oh its him no its this person no darn it maybe this person. Only way for anyone to find out who really sotish is, is by sotish coming back on bitcointalk and posting or a public announcement in some private location of him proving he is the real satoshi.

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Wow.  The two most popular poll results are the least and the greatest percentages.  I was tending towards it is not him but I no not know much about the user in question.

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He cant be him because the patern of their posts are not the same

Satoshi posts



and his posts



Satoshi has a unique post pattern that can't compare to anyone. You can see almost zero post in some hours of the day and a very activity in others. I think his post pattern is the key to find and his real id. And this pattern i see a man from Europe. He cant be from Usa or Asia.
I think satoshi's post patterns were consistent with someone who was devoting a certain part of his day towards a particular activity. It could have been that he was working at a certain time (at his place of employment), it could have been that he devoted certain hours to building the Bitcoin code, it could have been that he was maintaining a very strict sleep schedule, it could have been that his family's schedule mandated that he needed to spend time with them at a certain part of the day. Whatever this commitment was could have changed/gone away over the past 4 years so I don't think a posting time analysis is going to give very much information.



I really do not think the facts in the OP would lead a reasonable person to believe that EhVedadooAnonimato is satoshi






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May 18, 2015, 01:07:53 AM
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Wow.  The two most popular poll results are the least and the greatest percentages.  I was tending towards it is not him but I no not know much about the user in question.

Eh, polls in bitcointalk recently hasn't been that much reliable because sockpuppet accounts mainly contribute to these things. EhVedadoOAnonimato pulled up a nice feat on being that "Satoshi" dude which made OP think that it's him. Whatever the case, we aren't close in getting the real identity behind Satoshi because Satoshi doesn't want to expose himself in the first place. If so, he could've done that in the past.

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May 18, 2015, 01:09:33 AM
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Not even close to satoshi's style.

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