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ISIS will no be defeated easy if we dont start to do some more missions down there. Ofc we have fighters bombing daily but there is too many psychos that keep joining them so they can keep up.
ISIS will not be defeated because the CIA don't want them eliminated. The primary aim of the CIA is to overthrow Assad. ISIS is a useful tool against Assad. But ISIS needs to be limited in Iraq, as the American oil corporations are owning most of the oil wells there. That is why the US is conducting useless air-strikes, but not conducting any ground operations. Hmm.. Kinda want to agree but again its a little conspiracy ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) But CIA must be in on it some kind of way. Kind of ridiculous conspiracy theory, because in all real world events all secret services of all nations that have an interest might be expected to be equally involved.
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May 19, 2015, 07:37:25 AM |
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BEIRUT (AP) -- In a rare ground attack deep into Syria, U.S. Army commandos killed a man described as the Islamic State's head of oil operations, captured his wife and rescued a woman whom American officials said was enslaved. A team of Delta Force commandos slipped across the border from Iraq under cover of darkness Saturday aboard Black Hawk helicopters and V-22 Osprey aircraft, according to a U.S. defense official knowledgeable about details of the raid. The official was not authorized to discuss the operation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The Americans intended to capture a militant identified by U.S. officials as Abu Sayyaf. When they arrived at his location, a multi-story building, they met stiff resistance, the U.S. official said, and a firefight ensued, resulting in bullet-hole damage to the U.S. aircraft. Abu Sayyaf was killed, along with an estimated dozen IS fighters, U.S. officials said. No American was killed or wounded. Before the sun had risen, the commandos flew back to Iraq where Abu Sayyaf's wife, Umm Sayyaf, was being questioned in U.S. custody, officials said. The goal was to gain intelligence about IS operations and any information about hostages, including American citizens, who were held by the group, according to Bernadette Meehan, spokeswoman for the U.S. National Security Council. More... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-16-08-39-42That's a nice one. Can america and NATO just destroy ISIS? Coz ISIS is an obvious evil. Same way they destroyed Saddam's regime and Gaddafi's regime? Or they just don't want to?
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May 19, 2015, 07:39:42 AM |
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I haven't heard this in the local news neither on the newspaper. Shouldn't this be an international news?
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May 19, 2015, 01:07:56 PM |
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I haven't heard this in the local news neither on the newspaper. Shouldn't this be an international news?
I don´t think it´s very suitable for consumption outside of the U.S. due to insufficient supply of excessively gullible idiots these days. Good luck, g
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May 19, 2015, 06:42:00 PM |
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I haven't heard this in the local news neither on the newspaper. Shouldn't this be an international news?
Yes, It is. However, I cannot grasp what are you meaning. Do you mean a local news in Syria? Is Syrian Govt controlled TV & Media supposed to report on US Special Forces raiding a Terrorist/IS hideout when they're on the opposing sides of the fight there? Or do you mean IS TV reporting on their leadership receiving such a bowl from the American infidels & crusaders? I'm don't think such local media are interested in reporting such news unless their masters want to achieve a political mean with such reports. ...
I don´t think it´s very suitable for consumption outside of the U.S. due to insufficient supply of excessively gullible idiots these days. Good luck, g What consumption you mean? It's only a short news of a military operation...you cannot wrote a long story about it, not yet at least. Only time can tell if this raid become important as the Sinjar one was. IMO writing longer story now is good only for action-fiction storytellers or writers.
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May 19, 2015, 06:42:58 PM |
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BEIRUT (AP) -- In a rare ground attack deep into Syria, U.S. Army commandos killed a man described as the Islamic State's head of oil operations, captured his wife and rescued a woman whom American officials said was enslaved. A team of Delta Force commandos slipped across the border from Iraq under cover of darkness Saturday aboard Black Hawk helicopters and V-22 Osprey aircraft, according to a U.S. defense official knowledgeable about details of the raid. The official was not authorized to discuss the operation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The Americans intended to capture a militant identified by U.S. officials as Abu Sayyaf. When they arrived at his location, a multi-story building, they met stiff resistance, the U.S. official said, and a firefight ensued, resulting in bullet-hole damage to the U.S. aircraft. Abu Sayyaf was killed, along with an estimated dozen IS fighters, U.S. officials said. No American was killed or wounded. Before the sun had risen, the commandos flew back to Iraq where Abu Sayyaf's wife, Umm Sayyaf, was being questioned in U.S. custody, officials said. The goal was to gain intelligence about IS operations and any information about hostages, including American citizens, who were held by the group, according to Bernadette Meehan, spokeswoman for the U.S. National Security Council. More... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-16-08-39-42That's a nice one. Can america and NATO just destroy ISIS? Coz ISIS is an obvious evil. Same way they destroyed Saddam's regime and Gaddafi's regime? Or they just don't want to? Conventional military might means very little when you can't reliably identify the enemy and distinguish them from civilians. That was the US's main problem with the Viet Cong too in the Vietnam war. Guerilla warfare is effective against armies who feel the need to minimize civilian deaths. When ISIS fights out in the open, they are routinely routed by superior technology and firepower. When they can pick and choose battles and blend in with the surroundings, they're formiddable exactly because the US won't go in and level an area due to collateral damage concerns.
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May 20, 2015, 12:25:23 AM |
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I haven't heard this in the local news neither on the newspaper. Shouldn't this be an international news?
Yes, It is. However, I cannot grasp what are you meaning. Do you mean a local news in Syria? Is Syrian Govt controlled TV & Media supposed to report on US Special Forces raiding a Terrorist/IS hideout when they're on the opposing sides of the fight there? Or do you mean IS TV reporting on their leadership receiving such a bowl from the American infidels & crusaders? I'm don't think such local media are interested in reporting such news unless their masters want to achieve a political mean with such reports. ...
I don´t think it´s very suitable for consumption outside of the U.S. due to insufficient supply of excessively gullible idiots these days. Good luck, g What consumption you mean? It's only a short news of a military operation...you cannot wrote a long story about it, not yet at least. Only time can tell if this raid become important as the Sinjar one was. IMO writing longer story now is good only for action-fiction storytellers or writers. No. I mean in some ways, this should be a news in all the countries in the UN. Selected countries ofcourse. People around the world would be at ease at least when news like this goes on air on their local TV.
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May 20, 2015, 03:51:33 AM |
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I haven't heard this in the local news neither on the newspaper. Shouldn't this be an international news?
Yes, It is. However, I cannot grasp what are you meaning. Do you mean a local news in Syria? Is Syrian Govt controlled TV & Media supposed to report on US Special Forces raiding a Terrorist/IS hideout when they're on the opposing sides of the fight there? Or do you mean IS TV reporting on their leadership receiving such a bowl from the American infidels & crusaders? I'm don't think such local media are interested in reporting such news unless their masters want to achieve a political mean with such reports. ...
I don´t think it´s very suitable for consumption outside of the U.S. due to insufficient supply of excessively gullible idiots these days. Good luck, g What consumption you mean? It's only a short news of a military operation...you cannot wrote a long story about it, not yet at least. Only time can tell if this raid become important as the Sinjar one was. IMO writing longer story now is good only for action-fiction storytellers or writers. No. I mean in some ways, this should be a news in all the countries in the UN. Selected countries ofcourse. People around the world would be at ease at least when news like this goes on air on their local TV. OK. In fact it was given also in my own country (i'm not in the USA); however, this was just a few seconds time one. As I said to galdur before it's only a short news of a military operation, you cannot wrote a long story about it. Also, how could people worldwide be at ease just because a US SF team raided a IS hideout killing a terrorist in a classified military operation (no further details available so far, obviously)? What kind of mindset is: "OMG! This is fine..the US are raiding IS; so, we will be good."?
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May 20, 2015, 06:38:26 AM |
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The ISIS is being funded and armed by the NATO and its allies (either directly or indirectly). For example, a few months ago, the NATO delivered hundreds of millions of USD worth of advanced weapon systems to a rebel Free Syrian Army (FSA) unit in Syria, hoping that they will use it against the pro-Assad forces. This unit, numbering some 5,000 fighters, simply defected to the ISIS a week later, taking the entire weapons cache with them.
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May 20, 2015, 07:33:59 AM |
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The ISIS is being funded and armed by the NATO and its allies (either directly or indirectly). For example, a few months ago, the NATO delivered hundreds of millions of USD worth of advanced weapon systems to a rebel Free Syrian Army (FSA) unit in Syria, hoping that they will use it against the pro-Assad forces. This unit, numbering some 5,000 fighters, simply defected to the ISIS a week later, taking the entire weapons cache with them. Using your example as justification for you saying IS (ISIS is their former name) being funded & armed by NATO & other countries is a careless and absurd thing since it's equal to say the KGB & Soviet Union were NATO & United Kingdom puppets because Kim Philby he once worked for them before defecting to Soviet Union, after his departure from MI6. FSA army is being funded & armed by some NATO countries (not all of them) but they are in large part funded by Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies who "dislike" Assad regime; however, foreign countries like Russia among others are also helping the Assad's Syrian regime with funds, weapons and training too. IS (formerly ISIS) instead is mostly funded by rich like-minded Sunni people from Saudi Arabia, the Gulf countries and overseas Sunnies. Also, Saudi Arabian Govt is known to use the export of Wahhabism both as a foreign policy tool as well as a way to steam off social discontentment by providing their subject with a way to wage a jihad abroad instead of them waging one into the Kingdom itself. Last, but not least, IS fight against Syrian & Iraqi Govts also have a Shia–Sunni strife perspective alongside being a conflict by proxies between Saudi Arabia and Iran for regional dominance.
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May 20, 2015, 11:28:48 AM |
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FSA army is being funded & armed by some NATO countries (not all of them) but they are in large part funded by Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies who "dislike" Assad regime; however, foreign countries like Russia among others are also helping the Assad's Syrian regime with funds, weapons and training too.
There is a big difference between Russia arming the Assad forces and NATO arming the FSA. Assad's forces are never going to defect to the ISIS. In the past four years of Syrian civil war, not a single Syrian soldier has defected to the ISIS. But that can't be said about the FSA. FSA is a complex coktail of various factions, some of which are even more radical than the ISIS itself.
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May 20, 2015, 12:32:41 PM |
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FSA army is being funded & armed by some NATO countries (not all of them) but they are in large part funded by Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies who "dislike" Assad regime; however, foreign countries like Russia among others are also helping the Assad's Syrian regime with funds, weapons and training too.
There is a big difference between Russia arming the Assad forces and NATO arming the FSA. Assad's forces are never going to defect to the ISIS. In the past four years of Syrian civil war, not a single Syrian soldier has defected to the ISIS. But that can't be said about the FSA. FSA is a complex coktail of various factions, some of which are even more radical than the ISIS itself. You're still mixing FSA with IS. At least some Syrian soldiers defect to FSA (FSA was originally made of Syrian Army defectors) but not to IS. IS not belonging to FSA, nor the latter is controlling the former.
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You're still mixing FSA with IS. At least some Syrian soldiers defect to FSA (FSA was originally made of Syrian Army defectors) but not to IS. IS not belonging to FSA, nor the latter is controlling the former.
You need to read carefully what I had posted earlier. I was actually referring to this incident, in which the NATO-sponsored FSA soldiers defected to the ISIS: http://www.globalresearch.ca/3000-moderate-rebels-defect-to-the-islamic-state-isis-us-preparing-5000-more/5425344On the second part, I do agree. FSA and ISIS are different organizations.
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